The Summit by Vapium (Formerly MARK 1)
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OF
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Mine has certainly been reliable, as I think are almost all? One has to wonder how one user can go through several of the same product most guys have no trouble with. In the days when my job duties ran to such things this was a huge red flag in the RCA (Root Cause Analysts) game.
Buy it from Randy at PIU (like I did) and there are no such reliability issues to hang you up. He'll be there for you big time if there's a problem of any sort. You can buy with confidence it'll work for you for the warranty period or be dealt with promptly and completely.
Battery life is short in conventional terms, but this is not really a session vape. It's strength is in the 'grab a quick hit or two and get on with life' duty. More so if stealth is part of that. Push the button, wait for the buzz, take a hit, soldier on.
Otherwise vapes like Solo/Air have longer battery life, arguably better flavor and a reliability reputation 'second to none'.
I recommend Summit if the unit appeals to you based on that. I understand Pax has some taste issues some advise avoiding? I have no personal experience, but it's been described as 'tasting like shit' sometimes by a well respected Member who's opinions I generally value highly. You might want to check into that?
OF
Sungodv
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I am coming up to a year on my Summit and have had no problems. I even don't mind the battery life, it's just fine for me. I think the taste is fine for a portable too. I've tasted worse...much worse. I am back to my Q and doing the CBD only thing. THC is great, but I'm older and really like what CBD does for me and the Q tastes like air almost, even @ 375 F.
I've had my Summit since November of last year and I already had to super glue the bowl area once because of a piece that cracked off. I also had to purchase a new mouthpiece because my old mouthpiece broke while connected. The problem I have with the new mouthpiece is the fact that the metal tube from the old mouthpiece is stuck inside of my summit. I can't figure out how to get the metal tube out so I have to swallow the end now every time I take a hit. I been doing this for a month with no issues, but it would be nice to use the mouthpiece again one day.
OF
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My guess is it's glued on with fouling/condensate and is not going to come out cold. And it's possible that now that the plastic (which was insulation) is gone it doesn't get hot enough any more to come free. You might try a bead of ISO around the tube end (the one inside the broken MP) and letting it soak in for a while. Then see if you can twist the broken tube part, once it turns it'll be easier to 'thread it off' (twist while pulling out)?
Or you could slip a short piece of 1/4 ID Silicone tube over the metal to protect your lips?
OF
Sungodv
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I hope you got a real one and not a copy, if there are copy's out there. And I have to wonder if it got dropped or knocked around a bit. If so, I don't know if you can make a warranty claim. If not, I would.
Barring that, putting a few drops of ISO in the end where the MP fits it and letting soak as OF said should help if it is condensate holding it in. Maybe hold on to the thing really tight and then fling your arm very forcefully like you are hitting something with a hammer may make it come out. The metal part that fits over the metal tube from the bowl on mine isn't very tight so I'm puzzled why it's not coming out for you.
Hope things work out.
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neverforget711
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Has there been any word on when the revamp will be introduced? They really hit it out of the park with this one.
lauri melissa
Happy Fairy
Has there any news on a wta for the summit?
Vapenvy
Indie vaper
Adding to the great advice from @OF and @Sungodv , since the summit is working, maybe have a session first and then a few drops of iso while it is still hot to speed and ease the process.
If not from resin build up, i also can't work out how it would be stuck unless slightly bent as well, since the mouthpiece tube slides over the vapor tube, held only by magnets.
Maybe needle nose pliers to grab the tube to pull it out.
Good point. I also rotate vapes and don't use mine as often as i used to, so am not any kind of benchmark for how it holds up to daily use
Vape Dr.
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Welcome to FC @lauri melissa! So glad to have you here! 
lauri melissa
Happy Fairy
Thank you for the welcome! I have been lurking around for the last couple of years...since I converted to vaping. All of you amaze me with your wealth of knowledge. I hope to add as much I can. Namaste.Welcome to FC @lauri melissa! So glad to have you here!
Been using my summit for a about a month now, it's been pretty good as a stealthy quick on the go tool.
They are still selling the old model, with the non fixed USB cover, at this end of the world. I wonder if that's the only revision change?
I have inconsistent results with this summit, sometimes I have great taste, other thought times it never taste good.
It's also the same with vapor. Sometimes it's thin and wispy, then all of a sudden this thing rips a cloud. But I am still getting to know this unit, so maybe it's user error. But I think the design is excellent, and I carry it in my pocket, for the just in case moments, in life.
They are still selling the old model, with the non fixed USB cover, at this end of the world. I wonder if that's the only revision change?
I have inconsistent results with this summit, sometimes I have great taste, other thought times it never taste good.
It's also the same with vapor. Sometimes it's thin and wispy, then all of a sudden this thing rips a cloud. But I am still getting to know this unit, so maybe it's user error. But I think the design is excellent, and I carry it in my pocket, for the just in case moments, in life.
After a fair bit of playing around, I really am starting to dig this Summit, if you bend the bottom screen and make it convex, the bottom hole doesn't jam up.
As I have read in previous pages.
Then you put one of the spare screen on top, and sandwich the herb. Goto give credit where credit is due, this thing has been ripping great cloud after cloud.
You can't beat this thing on price, stealth and light weight, plus it is very durable and fantastic for the quick fix.
It is very consistent when you sandwich and pack it down a bit, with stock screen on top and bottom of herb, and level 4 is really the sweet spot for this thing.
It's good for 3 repacks which is all you need, when our and about.
So glad I bought this now. Go Vapium you made a fantastic tool.
However they need to update the user manual with this info.
As I have read in previous pages.
Then you put one of the spare screen on top, and sandwich the herb. Goto give credit where credit is due, this thing has been ripping great cloud after cloud.
You can't beat this thing on price, stealth and light weight, plus it is very durable and fantastic for the quick fix.
It is very consistent when you sandwich and pack it down a bit, with stock screen on top and bottom of herb, and level 4 is really the sweet spot for this thing.
It's good for 3 repacks which is all you need, when our and about.
So glad I bought this now. Go Vapium you made a fantastic tool.
However they need to update the user manual with this info.
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Vapenvy
Indie vaper
Good call @Vapo . I agree it's a great vape.
Bending the screen is exactly how i used to do it until i got tired of that and just cut down my own mesh screen to further reduce the likelyhood of clogging up the hole and reduce draw resistance.
I also agree the screen on top really helps to cook the load more fully and evenly and increased cloadage, but in the end i gave up on that too, again because i am lazy and couldn't be bothered taking it out all the time when changing the load. Is there a theme emerging here?
It works fine without so i went with that...
Speaking of revisions. If they do, i would recommend they swap the convex/concave parts on the lid and next the chamber. Stuff ALWAYS gets stuck in that little hole next to the chamber. I know it is there to help keep the lid in place and does a great job, but they should put the hole on the lid instead of on the lip of the chamber in my opinion.
Also, as you mention, stealth is great on this vape but could be increased if the light could be turned off, however you can use it 'backwards' and put your thumb over the light to minimise it.
Bending the screen is exactly how i used to do it until i got tired of that and just cut down my own mesh screen to further reduce the likelyhood of clogging up the hole and reduce draw resistance.
I also agree the screen on top really helps to cook the load more fully and evenly and increased cloadage, but in the end i gave up on that too, again because i am lazy and couldn't be bothered taking it out all the time when changing the load. Is there a theme emerging here?
It works fine without so i went with that...
Speaking of revisions. If they do, i would recommend they swap the convex/concave parts on the lid and next the chamber. Stuff ALWAYS gets stuck in that little hole next to the chamber. I know it is there to help keep the lid in place and does a great job, but they should put the hole on the lid instead of on the lip of the chamber in my opinion.
Also, as you mention, stealth is great on this vape but could be increased if the light could be turned off, however you can use it 'backwards' and put your thumb over the light to minimise it.
Thanks for the info @Vapenvy , Couldn't agree more the light gives it a disco boogie look in low light, or dark, you look like a vaping xmas tree if you don't cup the light field.
What needs to be done is a automatic, variable brightness control, applied to the led's, in the next revision. And if that's too much to ask, then half the brightness of those led's please.
I realise it's so bright, so you can use it in bright light, like full sun at the snow.
However, there really needs to be a way to toggle the brightness then, I like to walk my dog in the dark, and I can use this thing as a torch it's so bright.
That, and a variable off timer, with haptic feedback, when the thing goes to sleep.(should have been the second use for haptic feedback and you left it out)..
And if Vapium could kindly create some stainless steal capsule's with lid's, that fit the oven bucket, I would be grateful and buy them.ASAP
This could turn this Summit into a quick pack stealth machine. And would be incredibly handy for me.
What needs to be done is a automatic, variable brightness control, applied to the led's, in the next revision. And if that's too much to ask, then half the brightness of those led's please.
I realise it's so bright, so you can use it in bright light, like full sun at the snow.
However, there really needs to be a way to toggle the brightness then, I like to walk my dog in the dark, and I can use this thing as a torch it's so bright.
That, and a variable off timer, with haptic feedback, when the thing goes to sleep.(should have been the second use for haptic feedback and you left it out)..
And if Vapium could kindly create some stainless steal capsule's with lid's, that fit the oven bucket, I would be grateful and buy them.ASAP
This could turn this Summit into a quick pack stealth machine. And would be incredibly handy for me.
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Vapenvy
Indie vaper
I like the 90 second cutoff as i can use it to guage the session. 1 for ok. 2 for good times. 3 for woohoo! Etc, and the wait time as it heats between timeouts often results in bigger hits, but i can see how varaible length would be a great feature for most.
Haptic feedback when it times out would be at the top of any list i would think.
Also just remembered. Showing the remaining battery life as it turns off would be good too.
I do like the 90 sec as well, although I've noticed if i forget, the standby can also chew through the limited battery life as well, if left on. I would rather a 10 min standby.
I think the compromise on battery life came down to the Summit being very light at 88 grams, and I like it's weight. You can barely tell it's in your pocket it's so light.
They have added a feature that when the unit is in standby with the lid off, if you press the go button this reveals the battery life.
It's the little things like this, and many other features, that show just how much effort and engineering, went into the Summit. It's really very well designed, especially the user interface.
Sativajobs
Member
Vapenvy
Indie vaper
I never realised this. Good to know. Thanks.
Mine has this feature. Purchased around june 2015.
I am still stumped by this one. Did you ever get it out? Any of our tips work?
anyway, i noticed my mouthpiece beginning to stick like this. Tried all the usual cleaning routine but still sticking.
I then realised that resin has somehow gotten on the outside of the tube the mouthpiece slides over (probably some is pushed down inside the mouthpiece tube while cleaning and then is rubbed on to the tube when you insert the mouthpiece)
I cleaned it by getting a safety pin and running it around outside of the vapor path tube, ie the gap between the tube and the body. The mouthpiece no longer sticks.
Hope that helps people.
sickmanfraud
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I just saw a website advertising the Summit plus which connects to your phone and has a built in stir tool.
Anyone have that version?
Pics of the stirrer please.
Anyone have that version?
Pics of the stirrer please.
We're releasing these for sale in the coming weeks. The 'stirrer' is actually a stir tool that clips onto the vape and can be taken out. Here's a quick image:
Other improvements are the more powerful battery (3200 mAh) as well as improved weather seal (most notably around the mouthpiece in the form of a small rubber ring). The unit feels a bit sturdier as well, likely because of the extra battery weight. From what I know, the iOS/Android apps will become available in June.
Other improvements are the more powerful battery (3200 mAh) as well as improved weather seal (most notably around the mouthpiece in the form of a small rubber ring). The unit feels a bit sturdier as well, likely because of the extra battery weight. From what I know, the iOS/Android apps will become available in June.