Discontinued The Sublimator

[satyrday]

I've got my load size down to one hit now, using the "pinch" measuring spoon from the set I ordered

I bought that spoon set you posted about. Great find!

 

[Organibis]

I'll just say, mobius ROCKS!! if you have the funds, grab one up. I think the Clear bub could handle the size of the Sub, but it doesn't have as stable of a base and could be a tip hazard, any of the 60-65Ts etc. should handle the Sub ok, they have a wide base, weight behind them, the Ion might be too small, for comfort. Something to keep in mind is they do offer a lot of diffusion. I don't want to tie up this thread talking about it, there is a mobius thread here in FC if you have specific questions or PM me.

Just an fyi for anyone looking to buy some glass for the sub, I've got a 60t and its a lot less stable than my ION. I don't have the sub but for reference the 60t will tip over with the cloud on it. Its plenty stable on its own but it doesn't handle adding weight to the downstem very well.

 

[mmafighterthe25]

Just an fyi for anyone looking to buy some glass for the sub, I've got a 60t and its a lot less stable than my ION. I don't have the sub but for reference the 60t will tip over with the cloud on it. Its plenty stable on its own but it doesn't handle adding weight to the downstem very well.

the ion does seem to have a wide base, more than the clear bubbler

 

[Brayden]

Another chemical impossibility.

All scientific jazz aside, do a test for me than, go and take a hit filling up the tube to desired thickness but as the tube is about to be filled, exhale and stop. Go make some food, and come back 5 minutes later, clear the hoot and ill wait for your review. My thoughts after doing this was that the hoot was not affected, again, I don't know why anyone would allow a hit to sit there but in terms of passing a hoot back and forth between friends and such you will never have issues again. I know with my friends when someone passes me a bong that still has smoke in it I dread clearing it and will usually chirp at the person a bit.

 

[pakalolo]

All scientific jazz aside, do a test for me than, go and take a hit filling up the tube to desired thickness but as the tube is about to be filled, exhale and stop. Go make some food, and come back 5 minutes later, clear the hoot and ill wait for your review. My thoughts after doing this was that the hoot was not affected, again, I don't know why anyone would allow a hit to sit there but in terms of passing a hoot back and forth between friends and such you will never have issues again. I know with my friends when someone passes me a bong that still has smoke in it I dread clearing it and will usually chirp at the person a bit.

Five minutes is a long way from never. I doubt anyone would notice after five minutes. Fifteen is probably a different story. I know bags start to taste stale to me after 15 minutes and I see no reason why the Sub should be any different.

 

[weedemon]

All scientific jazz aside, do a test for me than, go and take a hit filling up the tube to desired thickness but as the tube is about to be filled, exhale and stop. Go make some food, and come back 5 minutes later, clear the hoot and ill wait for your review.

I did just this. I took a hit halfway milking up the tube the best I could. I then capped the tube and made sure no vapor was escaping. After a 3 minute wait, I felt the vapor had done 2 things. It had gotten a touch less cloudy in the tube and when I cleared the hit, it felt like the quality had deteriorated a bit.

I'm not saying this is a fault of the sub by any means. it's physics and applies across the board.

I have to agree that all vapor will eventually condense and settle out of the air as it cools and sits (being sticky by nature it will even cling to itself and eventually fall out of the air too.)

now, you had different thoughts than I did ... but that's the beauty of opinions, we each get our own! if life has taught me anything, it's that you really need to try things for yourself. because experiences will vary!

 

[Brayden]

Im glad someone else tried this, I just found that when I was passing my residual hoots too a friend or receiving one myself that had been sitting for a few minutes or even a long period of time that I wasn't noticing a shit taste anymore from ANY leftover smoke. love the other reviews. I have learned my lesson folks, "never" is not a word to be used on this forum lol

 

[weedemon]

I hear you man, I also agree old vapor is still nothing at all like a nasty ass old smoke toke left in a bong.

those leave a bitter burned aftertaste! yuck.

 

[MikeInMiami]

So you can take dabs with the Apollo heating element? If so, what would be the perks of getting the adapt-a-bong/e-nailator combo kit from PV? Sorry if thats a n00b question

 

[VapeNStone]

So you can take dabs with the Apollo heating element? If so, what would be the perks of getting the adapt-a-bong/e-nailator combo kit from PV? Sorry if thats a n00b question

the adapt a bong is the apollo and the enailator is basically just for dabs, but can take really really big dabs at a time whereas the apollo can just take normal sized dabs.

 

[MikeInMiami]

the adapt a bong is the apollo and the enailator is basically just for dabs, but can take really really big dabs at a time whereas the apollo can just take normal sized dabs.

thanks for the info, looks like i can save myself the $400. the price of quality concentrates down here doesn't really allow me to do "big" dabs, let alone regular sized ones lol

 

[hassan]

So you can take dabs with the Apollo heating element? If so, what would be the perks of getting the adapt-a-bong/e-nailator combo kit from PV? Sorry if thats a n00b question

Pretty good question as far as I am concerned.

I've thought the same thing myself - especially after seeing a picture of the E-Nailator.

Considering the extremely limited utility, and the fact that the Adapt-a-Bong pretty much does everything it is capable of and more, I can't see anyone being able to justify that price-point - even if they solely rely upon concentrates and solely like huge hits.

The fact that not a single person on the forum has forked over the cash seems to solidify that theory.

 

[grokit]

Has anybody tried the wireless torch accessory Mercury Kit?

 

[hassan]

Has anybody tried the wireless torch accessory?

Do you mean the 'UFO'?

I believe Cheese was contemplating purchasing it for use around a fire.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Pretty good question as far as I am concerned.

I've thought the same thing myself - especially after seeing a picture of the E-Nailator.

Considering the extremely limited utility, and the fact that the Adapt-a-Bong pretty much does everything it is capable of and more, I can't see anyone being able to justify that price-point - even if they solely rely upon concentrates and solely like huge hits.

The fact that not a single person on the forum has forked over the cash seems to solidify that theory.

considering HE e-nails were going for a ridiculous $800 i'd guess that's less of the issue than lack of knowledge about the e-nail. i'm quite interested, yet can't justify it yet. that combo looks right up my alley. am not sure what the "apollo bay" is that seems to come w/ the combo kit, but not a regular adapt-a-bong. PV's anti-copy site means you can't open multiple windows off of products easy, not all stuff is pictured, not well explained. and it's not in stock. we are in early days people

 

[CheeseSandwich]

Do you mean the 'UFO'?

I believe Cheese was contemplating purchasing it for use around a fire.

Ya, I'm still contemplating it.

 

[JCat]

jam...you didn't just scoop some out of the bottom of the buddy?

I just got subbed! Got her back this morning and, man, does that fucker hit! The cerebral effects I get are more intense and last longer than other vapes I have and I love it. You know how when you get a new vape it kicks your ass at first? I think it is because every vape has its own unique signature in how much conduction, convection and radiation is going on and they yield slightly different effects. I think I notice that I get a vaporizer-model-tolerance sometimes and I need to mix it up. That's why I think the Cloud/Sub combo will be the shit. And if I'm right about the vape signature, then the Sub has a truly unique one that I find very enjoyable.

I find the same thing Sticks although never put it in to words quite so well ... I like it ... the "vape signature" which implies the percent conduction/convection/radiation going on ... I think its a new term for qualifying the effect you get from various vaporizers and as to why they are different and why variety is good, both in strain but also in vaporizer.

 

[Brayden]

So you can take dabs with the Apollo heating element? If so, what would be the perks of getting the adapt-a-bong/e-nailator combo kit from PV? Sorry if thats a n00b question

I will say one thing, I dab CONSTANTLY. And since I got the sublimator, dabbing has turned into 80% of my smoke now. So in terms of the E-nail being overpriced, I actually disagree. When I take large dabs through the sub I watch some of the oil drip into the atomizer and I can tell that sometimes I forsure don't get all of my dab. If you are smoking oil as much as me, the e-nail is truly an elite piece of equipment you can bet your buck on that, youll get probably id say an extra 1-3$ of oil out of ur dab per hit. worth as much as gold so when your dabbin a lot it pays off to have it ALL get used up everytime and the enail forsure does a better job of that then the Apollo based on videos.

 

[Enrico]

Pretty good question as far as I am concerned.

I've thought the same thing myself - especially after seeing a picture of the E-Nailator.

Considering the extremely limited utility, and the fact that the Adapt-a-Bong pretty much does everything it is capable of and more, I can't see anyone being able to justify that price-point - even if they solely rely upon concentrates and solely like huge hits.

The fact that not a single person on the forum has forked over the cash seems to solidify that theory.

i have sold more than 400 tittanium hammer there is nothing better for concentrate(imo)
i personaly love my apollo better ,but the ti hammer is like Braydon says is for megadabber,you loose down the apollo ,also because of impurity,s after a while you may clogged your apollo with the plant matter which (sucks to have to stoppe a session to remove all that gunk)this never happen to the ti hammer,plus the ti hammer refines your dabs better bigger smoother more humane humongus rips!!!! sorry got carried away

 

[CheeseSandwich]

If I were a big dabber I'd have probably bought the E-nailator for sure. I mostly use weed all the time, occasionally dabbing so the adapt-a-bong fit my needs. It's my daily driver full time now as well.

 

[Enrico]

Pretty good question as far as I am concerned.

I've thought the same thing myself - especially after seeing a picture of the E-Nailator.

Considering the extremely limited utility, and the fact that the Adapt-a-Bong pretty much does everything it is capable of and more, I can't see anyone being able to justify that price-point - even if they solely rely upon concentrates and solely like huge hits.

The fact that not a single person on the forum has forked over the cash seems to solidify that theory.

extremely limited ? it does all concentrate hard hash anything but flowers ...doubles decker too not that limited and it si design for large quantity tho
but my favourite also is the apollo

 

[Organibis]

so, Enrico, is it fair to say that if you're dabbing and vaping flowers by yourself mostly then the Apollo is for you and if your often having friends over for big dab sessions then the e-nailator would be the ticket?

 

[green2brown]

so, Enrico, is it fair to say that if you're dabbing and vaping flowers by yourself mostly then the Apollo is for you and if your often having friends over for big dab sessions then the e-nailator would be the ticket?

The E-Nailator is for someone who wants to take BIG dabs, like .2 and up. It seems more novelty to me than function. My dabs with the Apollo are typically about .05-.1 and it does a fantastic job - it can definitely handle more than that too.

 

[JCat]

The E-Nailator is for someone who wants to take BIG dabs, like .2 and up. It seems more novelty to me than function. My dabs with the Apollo are typically about .05-.1 and it does a fantastic job - it can definitely handle more than that too.

I go through 2-3 oz of herb in a month ... but at $60 or so per gram of quality concentrate here ... my dabs are more in the area of .025 ... and if you get 5-7g of quality concentrate from a good oz of herb ... that makes it 4-6x as potent (by weight), thus a .025 hit of concentrate is equivalent to .1-.15 of herb (that's the way I'm figuring it anyways ... a .2 dab of concentrate is like taking a gram of herb in a hit which seems to me excessive (although at times would be nice ) ... just thinking out loud

 

[jambandphan03]

any chance of the Enailator heater portion being sold as a stand alone for those of us who already have apollos and atomizers? I'm not ready to get one right this minute or anything, but wouldn't mind adding on at some point in the near future should funds free up. I do love my hash and found it more difficult to get decent results in the apollo with some of my harder/older hash. Crumbs of hash mix with flower in the Sub just fine, but chunks don't do so well, I don't feel they are fully extracting, and I won't put hard hash into the air vents on my apollo, only melty oils.