Discontinued The Sublimator
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weedemon
enthusiast
ruh-roh! it's too late! I clipped it off weeks ago! but my sub is still rockin! I just take it apart and clean it at least once a week. not really noticed any other issues. that said If i bought a spare atomizer then I could really compare...
maybe later. I spent too much this month already.
I'll quote my post again for people who missed it. If you have the original version of the sublimator, you're in luck. Instead of moving it clockwise, line up your original sublimator's handle with the atomizer on the left closest to the bong base. Then pressure it down and move the heating element to the right and repeat when it's loose enough to hand screw.
Heat does work but I seriously destroyed my atomizer because it was so stuck. There's a metal washer like inside the plastic that intruded out when I was seriously forcing it to turn loose, but it only happened because I didn't clean my atomizer like I'm suppose to. It was twisting the whole thing in my bong, so I can't really do my method with my 14mm atomizer bottom anymore. ):
(Damages)
SUBCULTURE, CLEAN YOUR ATOMIZERS DAILY PLEASE!
Usually this method does not screw it up, but only suggestion is if you look at the bottom where the top of the threading is caked in hardened resin, use a vice and pliers.
Hi everyone,
Learn from this mistake... DO NOT follow the advice in this post or this is exactly what will happen to your Sub. It is not a washer holding the teflon piece, it is a C clip which is embedded under the teflon. By pushing the teflon in to your joint and cranking on the handle the C clip will gouge the teflon to irreparable status which is not covered under warranty as it is considered abuse of the product. At no times rotate the handles with the teflon seal locked in the joint, just wiggle it out to clear / remove or let it cool down first.
PV
kingtut106
Well-Known Member
Why are people taking apart the atomizer to clean it? Couldn't you just put the whole thing as is in iso and let it soak, then rinse with hot water. Honestly I haven't cleaned mine yet after a solid week of use because it just started dripping reclaim and that is too sweet to give up.
Monsoon
Well-Known Member
In my case I have the screen lodged in there and I need to remove the tube so I can pop it out with a pen. In any case it's just easier to clean by taking it apart as well as getting to the sublimate.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
oh yea buddy, it's the major drawback. i am hoping a lsv/gun barrel grill/screen type of snap on/protective barrier comes out within the next year or so.
i am sure the nail is easier to not burn yourself, as it's a nail and most of us already have the muscle memory to avoid those, but i've burned myself 3 times and once pretty severely. if i was a model or squeemish about scars i'd probably be irritated, but i'm already covered in burns and scars so it's not a big deal. this is not for the medical user, imo. more for the recreational, unless you're particular medical needs aren't affecting use or you have a helper.
and i'll re-iterate here, aloe (only thing that reduces scarring), Shea butter, calendula, coconut oil, and RSO (or other full spectrum cannabis oil).
my worst burn is on my inner bicep, got it on day 3. a week later the scab is almost off, but i have scar tissue that is almost a mm thick
i am sure the nail is easier to not burn yourself, as it's a nail and most of us already have the muscle memory to avoid those, but i've burned myself 3 times and once pretty severely. if i was a model or squeemish about scars i'd probably be irritated, but i'm already covered in burns and scars so it's not a big deal. this is not for the medical user, imo. more for the recreational, unless you're particular medical needs aren't affecting use or you have a helper.
and i'll re-iterate here, aloe (only thing that reduces scarring), Shea butter, calendula, coconut oil, and RSO (or other full spectrum cannabis oil).
my worst burn is on my inner bicep, got it on day 3. a week later the scab is almost off, but i have scar tissue that is almost a mm thick
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I have not burned myself yet, so it is possible to use this with out injury...
...as far as taking apart the atomizer to clean it... I find the handle kind of gets in the way of letting me dunk the whole atomizer in a jar of iso, so I have to take it apart to soak it. I have only soaked mine once so far, and made a poker out of metal coat hanger that is long enough to slide down the atomizer so I can knock the screen out with out unscrewing everything. I do want to clean it proper once in a while though, and relclaim the oil trapped inside the stem. That vaporgenie metal wire brush they sell to clean the pipe stem with works really good cleaning up the Sub parts in Iso. Unscrewing the parts when hot is key to getting them loose easily. Just be careful...
...as far as taking apart the atomizer to clean it... I find the handle kind of gets in the way of letting me dunk the whole atomizer in a jar of iso, so I have to take it apart to soak it. I have only soaked mine once so far, and made a poker out of metal coat hanger that is long enough to slide down the atomizer so I can knock the screen out with out unscrewing everything. I do want to clean it proper once in a while though, and relclaim the oil trapped inside the stem. That vaporgenie metal wire brush they sell to clean the pipe stem with works really good cleaning up the Sub parts in Iso. Unscrewing the parts when hot is key to getting them loose easily. Just be careful...
Monsoon
Well-Known Member
I'm a medical user but luckily don't have any physical impediments. Personally it's working very well for that use, one or two small hits during the day usually keeps me medicated for a couple hours without getting too high.
I ended up using a plastic tupperware container that was the right size. I also saw some plastic kitchen organizers at the store which were even smaller which would mean less ISO to pour in.
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StayHigh.net
Youtube Vlogger/ Cannabis Activist
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
oh i am not saying it's impossible, just kinda unlikely. not all of us carry your effortless grace, jam
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I wasn't trying to poke at you Bob, just stating that it is possible... I like to be the contrarian once in a while... it is a hot device no doubt about it... just don't let that scare you is what I am leaning towards, unless you know you have physical limitations that would impair your use. We all get clumsy and too high sometimes. I have nearly knocked my piece/sub over a few times just managed to catch it.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
you and my wife should join a club
no offense taken tho. just felt like the warning needed to be clear (fresh burn yesterday
)for new users. i am adhd, so am pretty space cadety anyway. i expected to get them, but still
. all is love over here.i am curious about the inside of enrico's arms tho
am loving this guy in the video talking about tolerance at the end
"there's also a price to pay, you know....and i'm not talking health-wise or anything like that, i'm fucking talking money-wise."
this thing really does take a little a long way. keep to small hits only when needed or you'll end up like me,
EDiT -
am confused about one thing tho, he talks about using it w/ herb
i thought the nail was dabs only, if the only difference is Ti and airflow i may have bought the wrong unit?
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hassan
Connoisseur
Whilst you *can* smoke hit after hit like he is towards the end of the video - there really is absolutely no necessity.
It's actually a little hypocritical, because he talks about conservation and the lacking need to hit it again and again on account of how efficient it is and how you can only get so high - only to then take another dab, haha.
I think it's incredibly easy to allow yourself to go crazy with the sublimator and end up using more medication than you would have otherwise - however, with a little discipline and the understanding that if you wait ten minutes after you've hit it you'll be just as high as you would if you were to take three in a row - you can most certainly end up using less.
It boils down to your personal discipline in my opinion.
I also think someone needs to explain to this guy that whilst he's definitely getting about 75% of the Sub experience doing what he's doing - without the Atomizer, he isn't really maximizing the overall utility of the Sublimator high.
It's actually a little hypocritical, because he talks about conservation and the lacking need to hit it again and again on account of how efficient it is and how you can only get so high - only to then take another dab, haha.
I think it's incredibly easy to allow yourself to go crazy with the sublimator and end up using more medication than you would have otherwise - however, with a little discipline and the understanding that if you wait ten minutes after you've hit it you'll be just as high as you would if you were to take three in a row - you can most certainly end up using less.
It boils down to your personal discipline in my opinion.
I also think someone needs to explain to this guy that whilst he's definitely getting about 75% of the Sub experience doing what he's doing - without the Atomizer, he isn't really maximizing the overall utility of the Sublimator high.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
same exact conversation in cloud thread atm, lol
both worth the dough and potential tolerance destruction. "remember, you are in charge of what is happening to you!"
love this thing so much
both worth the dough and potential tolerance destruction. "remember, you are in charge of what is happening to you!"
love this thing so much
Tommii
Subdivision Founder / Sublimator Ambassador
You gotta be extra cautious around the nail, it heats up more than the original. I've almost burnt myself trying to touch it with a towel
This 'c-clip' is news too me. The day I got my sub before it even heated up the handles and atomizer were very loose and free spinning from each other. First thing I did was give it a little hand tighten and try a glass bushing on the Teflon to see what the cold seal was like. When I tried slipping on my glass bushing before heating up to check the fit it caught on the c clip. I guess it screwed it up cuz when I got the glass joint back off that c clip was half way down the atomizer. I wasn't under the impression mine was ever even attached and I actually thought it was a unnecessary piece of junk metal. Anyway I never had that c-clip on mine I heated it red hot for the burn off and tightened it real hard and never have had a loosening problem since, everything seemed air tight and I wouldn't of been able to tell anything was 'damaged'. Been subbin happily for weeks. I guess my Teflon 'could' come loose? Do I really need another atomizer?
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
i think it's purely personal preference.
i can give you names of some who preferred one over the other definitively by previous posts, sales, signature changes, but you'd end up in the same place
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I like the Sub more than I did the cloud for various reasons, but I don't want to make this thread go into a cloud vs sub again...so I'll leave it at that.
Having bent the handle on the atomizer, when I went to pop the screen out, I flip the atomizer upside down on my desk, and now the end of the handle is bent up even with the top of the atomizer, so it acts as an extra support when I flip the atomizer upside down.
all my vape tools are much longer now...
...oh you may also notice that I stuck a small section of high temp silicone over the lower portion of the cone, I can't say if it changed anything or not...doesn't seem to be bothering anything so I just left it there. It does get hot so it doesn't offer much of a burn buffer, I do suspect though that it is insulating the metal from the room temp a bit.
Having bent the handle on the atomizer, when I went to pop the screen out, I flip the atomizer upside down on my desk, and now the end of the handle is bent up even with the top of the atomizer, so it acts as an extra support when I flip the atomizer upside down.
all my vape tools are much longer now... ...oh you may also notice that I stuck a small section of high temp silicone over the lower portion of the cone, I can't say if it changed anything or not...doesn't seem to be bothering anything so I just left it there. It does get hot so it doesn't offer much of a burn buffer, I do suspect though that it is insulating the metal from the room temp a bit.
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grokit
well-worn member
Hopefully if you (or myself) screwed anything up so badly that it needs repair/replacement Sublimator will cover it under warranty, as there were absolutely no maintenance instructions provided with the units.
hassan
Connoisseur
grokit
well-worn member
Hassan that hardly is a conclusive answer, and it wasn't posted until after the damage was already done. Also Planet Vape is one retailer and not the manufacturer, and I would hope that the manufacturer recognizes that we are all beta testers to some extent and need to be instructed on how to properly maintain this thing, not just react us after the fact by telling us what not to do.
When we don't have the correct information obviously we will experiment, so we need to be proactively provided with the correct instructions. My ufo piece arrived the other day with the instructions telling me not to use near combustible materials, which could result in a fire.
Lol.
There was no ufo-specific information at all in the box, regarding heating it up or maintaining it or anything else. Yes it came from planet vape, but it's not their responsibility to pass on information that they have not been provided with from Sublimator.
When we don't have the correct information obviously we will experiment, so we need to be proactively provided with the correct instructions. My ufo piece arrived the other day with the instructions telling me not to use near combustible materials, which could result in a fire.
Lol.
There was no ufo-specific information at all in the box, regarding heating it up or maintaining it or anything else. Yes it came from planet vape, but it's not their responsibility to pass on information that they have not been provided with from Sublimator.
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