Haha I knew that by posting my last bit I would get a lot of flak!
Especially because I know how Daisy/Lily/Vapman/Lotus and even VapCap users genuinely love their devices. I get that don't worry!
It's just that in my very own social circle and the places/events I attend, using for a prolongated period (ie. more than a fraction of second) anything with a lighter and even worse a torch is just a no go. Not going to happen, not at my age. If I was still in my 20's, attending some free party in an abandonned building, yes no problem. But now... not so much.
But what matters is that we can all enjoy the Mighty Plant our own way.