Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
- Thread starter THC SCIENTIFIC
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Whew that would look horrible
that doesn't sound normal. Are you sure the oils your putting in are good, if not you could have some left over gunk that is then turning into ash after a while of being on the rod. But it's normal for your rod to turn black after some use, usually not ashy though and certainly not crumbly. You can try cleaning it out and doing some dry burns and get it glowing to see if it brings it back to normal. But before you do I would Take a picture like @THC SCIENTIFIC recommended and send to him.
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I have tried so that should tell you something about my state of mind, but i was pinned down by my partners and engineers and slapped a few times.
Lou Taylor
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the help. Ok so I took a pic of both rods and discovered I was wrong. They are both the same length. so nothing broke off. It must have been some crunchy concentrate.
I had not considered the oil as being the issue. make my own oil boil off the bho in a water bath then toss in a vac oven for a few hours. Should I be winterizing? It comes out like a sticky jolly rancher most of the time without winterizing
another question.... is there a trick to getting the ti sponge out of the persei? I seem to do a little damage to it every time I pry it out with that tool that came with the sr-74
I had not considered the oil as being the issue. make my own oil boil off the bho in a water bath then toss in a vac oven for a few hours. Should I be winterizing? It comes out like a sticky jolly rancher most of the time without winterizing
another question.... is there a trick to getting the ti sponge out of the persei? I seem to do a little damage to it every time I pry it out with that tool that came with the sr-74
OB
Well-Known Member
I coulda used some slaps last night thats for sure. Its tall enough without the components to charge IMR batteries packed in the iris top. Don't know why I thought it could be like those b.s. ecigs with 510 thread USB chargers for their batteries.
@Lou Taylor heating the tube up will help loosen the coil in oil and it should slide out without pulling the mesh apart.
@Lou Taylor heating the tube up will help loosen the coil in oil and it should slide out without pulling the mesh apart.
SamuraiSam
Extraction Technician
If the herc is warm (not hot! Do your cool doen pulls for a minute then disassemble!) from use it will be easier to get apart if very oily. Squishing the coils a ton makes them harder to get out. Squishing a little bit to create a slight drag/ interference fit against the walls of the chamber is the key.
Pull the nut and AAF off and slide the rod out the bottom. Use a chopstick to poke from the top if need be.
Now I have a Ti dental pick that I poke through the bottom to push and slide the coil out and fish it from the top as well. I suppose a hairdryer, heat gun, or torch on super low could ptobably be used here to introduce more heat if you really need it?
One of my coils sort of came apart into halves when I pulled it out with brute force sideways instead of taking my time. I smooshed it in around the rod to reinstall and if anything all that happened is now it holds a little more oil. Hard to mess up titanium I guess.
Pull the nut and AAF off and slide the rod out the bottom. Use a chopstick to poke from the top if need be.
Now I have a Ti dental pick that I poke through the bottom to push and slide the coil out and fish it from the top as well. I suppose a hairdryer, heat gun, or torch on super low could ptobably be used here to introduce more heat if you really need it?
One of my coils sort of came apart into halves when I pulled it out with brute force sideways instead of taking my time. I smooshed it in around the rod to reinstall and if anything all that happened is now it holds a little more oil. Hard to mess up titanium I guess.
You do not want the rod to go out the bottom. This is how majority of rods are broken. It's how I broke my 1st and only rod so far and I was very careful every time making sure it was warm and using a poker. Much easier to go through the top and usually you don't even need it to be warm. @Lou Taylor
You also don't want to torch SS. Even on super low I would be weary. A bic lighter moved around constantly seems to be fine though
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I made a bunch of shatter without winterizing.
I don't go over 107F with heat.
Vacuum purge always!
AMBER GLASS!
Fuel for the K.I.S.S. & HERCULES
SamuraiSam
Extraction Technician
I certainly don't want to share bad info but I learned to use my Herc by watching Gary's youtube videos where he clearly shows inserting the rod from the bottom. How do you even insert the rod from the top, with tweezers?
StickyShisha2
Well-Known Member
i never had a problem inserting the clean rod from the bottom, but i always take it out from the top.
once there is the slightest bit of buildup, it won't fit out the bottom.
once there is the slightest bit of buildup, it won't fit out the bottom.
Caligula
Maximus
This. If you recall all of G's vids use a perfectly clean Hercules.
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
New Hercules Prototype Review
Mods:
- Pull off top cap instead of screw for easier loading
- Top heating core retaining sleeve for the ceramic rod is longer in length
Positives:
- Loading is MUCH easier - It is inevitable not to get a little concentrate on the sides after filling once or twice so the top cap ends up staying on perfectly (personally I would love if the mouthpiece itself and top cap were just one piece but it is what it is)
- User friendly - @THC SCIENTIFIC/Gary recommended I have rod placement similar to the SR-71 with the white space between the contacts fully exposed had no issues, I even played around with rod placement just to see how wide user error would be and also had no issues!
Negatives:
- Melting more solid concentrates (budder) down into the coil seemed to take a little longer. I'm guessing its either one of two things causing this.. 1) Rod placement being a bit low or 2) I was using two coils but I did not have this issue with the original setup. Again, not a biggie.
Other than that, I have zero complaints.
If anyone has any questions, or tests they want me to run on the prototype. Please let me know!
Mods:
- Pull off top cap instead of screw for easier loading
- Top heating core retaining sleeve for the ceramic rod is longer in length
Positives:
- Loading is MUCH easier - It is inevitable not to get a little concentrate on the sides after filling once or twice so the top cap ends up staying on perfectly (personally I would love if the mouthpiece itself and top cap were just one piece but it is what it is)
- User friendly - @THC SCIENTIFIC/Gary recommended I have rod placement similar to the SR-71 with the white space between the contacts fully exposed had no issues, I even played around with rod placement just to see how wide user error would be and also had no issues!
Negatives:
- Melting more solid concentrates (budder) down into the coil seemed to take a little longer. I'm guessing its either one of two things causing this.. 1) Rod placement being a bit low or 2) I was using two coils but I did not have this issue with the original setup. Again, not a biggie.
Other than that, I have zero complaints.
If anyone has any questions, or tests they want me to run on the prototype. Please let me know!
StickyShisha2
Well-Known Member
i don't clean the herc much. All i usually do is take out the rod, scrape off the black buildup, torch the shit out of it until it glows, let cool, reinstall rod. Vape
New Hercules Prototype Review
Mods:
- Pull off top cap instead of screw for easier loading
- Top heating core retaining sleeve for the ceramic rod is longer in length
Positives:
- Loading is MUCH easier - It is inevitable not to get a little concentrate on the sides after filling once or twice so the top cap ends up staying on perfectly (personally I would love if the mouthpiece itself and top cap were just one piece but it is what it is)
- User friendly - @THC SCIENTIFIC/Gary recommended I have rod placement similar to the SR-71 with the white space between the contacts fully exposed had no issues, I even played around with rod placement just to see how wide user error would be and also had no issues!
Negatives:
- Melting more solid concentrates (budder) down into the coil seemed to take a little longer. I'm guessing its either one of two things causing this.. 1) Rod placement being a bit low or 2) I was using two coils but I did not have this issue with the original setup. Again, not a biggie.
Other than that, I have zero complaints.
If anyone has any questions, or tests they want me to run on the prototype. Please let me know!
solid concentrates needs one coil.
Use one coils to load your concentrates in then if you want the second one but never while both coils are in there. Thats a pain in the ass.
Hows the cloud production? and how would you compare it to other vapes you own?
Also compare it with the single coil this way you would get the best result.
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
Yeah, I didn't have much time last night since I worked at 14 hour shift but I played around with it for just over an hour.
I was using two coils with my original setup because of leak issues and I think the leak issues were caused by the rod not getting hot enough in temp so concentrate would just run down through the coils and leak into the bottom chamber. I will iso soak everything tonight when I get home and try again with one coil.
Like I mentioned above, I was getting poor clouds from my original setup (rod not getting hot enough), and now the clouds it produces are just ridiculous. I am choking after a full haul!, unlike before and easily the cleanest taste out of any vape I own.
I hate to even mention this, but I bought a TV Cera + Essential Oil/Wax Cart the other week because people were praising it, claiming that it is better than the Persei + Herc. Let's just say I haven't used it since the first day I received it.
Persei + Herc or go home.
Thanks again @THC SCIENTIFIC / Gary!
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Sorry I thought you were talking about removing the rod. You want the rod to go in the bottom you are correct.
I was stating you do not want to remove the rod from the bottom (taking it out to clean it) because that is asking to break the rod and I found out the hard way
Lou Taylor
Well-Known Member
I'm jealous of your amber glass. I have only used leaves and immature buds for bho. As a result I get onyx glass instead of amber. At least I'm guessing that's the reason. my temps are usually 120 or less for the vac purge and 104 for the water bath. (hot tub / water bath it's all good)
I winterized a gram or so of og18 and it does seem to vape considerably faster (virtually instantly) than the non-frozen non-filtered og18 which sometimes takes as long as 10 secs before heavy vapor manifests. visually I can't see much difference so was a bit surprised...
Lou Taylor
Well-Known Member
I was stating you do not want to remove the rod from the bottom (taking it out to clean it) because that is asking to break the rod and I found out the hard way[/QUOTE]
sounds like "don't force it" whichever way it will come out with the least resistance? I can see it breaking either way.
very glad to hear that they last a long time. As far as I can tell they are the weakest part in the whole device.
sounds like "don't force it" whichever way it will come out with the least resistance? I can see it breaking either way.
very glad to hear that they last a long time. As far as I can tell they are the weakest part in the whole device.
Lou Taylor
Well-Known Member
I have an omnicron lite it hits wonderfully well. but that kiss cartridge needs to filled an awful lot. The ophos cartridge system might have been a better choice for me.
As for the don't force it,least resistance I would still recommend taking out through the top. Even the most gunked up rod will slide right out and all you need is a tooth pick. My rod and chamber weren't even too dirty I just wanted to clean for new oil rod slid out the bottom with no resistance then right at the end before it would be completely out it snapped
Yeah, that and the ptfe shield and mouthpiece threads stripping are the only problems. I encountered. Oh and a ruined upper chamber from torching it
All easily and cheaply replaced. The thread stripping is usually caused from putting it on the opposite way. I never did that I think I just over tightens mine but I also got it second hand so the person I got from could have previously and I just never noticed.
Darb
Well-Known Member
Sounds like an SR-71 rather than an SR-74.New Hercules Prototype Review
Mods:
- Pull off top cap instead of screw for easier loading
- Top heating core retaining sleeve for the ceramic rod is longer in length
Positives:
- Loading is MUCH easier - It is inevitable not to get a little concentrate on the sides after filling once or twice so the top cap ends up staying on perfectly (personally I would love if the mouthpiece itself and top cap were just one piece but it is what it is)
- User friendly - @THC SCIENTIFIC/Gary recommended I have rod placement similar to the SR-71 with the white space between the contacts fully exposed had no issues, I even played around with rod placement just to see how wide user error would be and also had no issues!
Negatives:
- Melting more solid concentrates (budder) down into the coil seemed to take a little longer. I'm guessing its either one of two things causing this.. 1) Rod placement being a bit low or 2) I was using two coils but I did not have this issue with the original setup. Again, not a biggie.
Other than that, I have zero complaints.
If anyone has any questions, or tests they want me to run on the prototype. Please let me know!
Thank you for the comparison. I thought just as much when I saw the classifieds section.
With the single coil you won't have any issues loading and no foil testing needed as the Herc can take anything you throw at it.
Give me a two day report if possible.
He has the sr74.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Do you think 6 weeks of cure will be about right for the SHATTER medicine for the SR74?
6 weeks purging shatter or the flower?