Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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I don't know for sure, I know that did happen with mine, I told G about it and he said not to do it again, SS was not meant to be torched and I bought a new one just to be safe
Boilerboy51
Member
How bout the coils?
Caligula
Maximus
The coils are titanium and can be torched as per W9.
Also to be clear I wasnt suggesting torching the entire upper portion of the cart. Simply blast the nut/rod for a few seconds to get the metal to expand a bit then tighten. When it cools it contracts and makes a tighter connection.
Also to be clear I wasnt suggesting torching the entire upper portion of the cart. Simply blast the nut/rod for a few seconds to get the metal to expand a bit then tighten. When it cools it contracts and makes a tighter connection.
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
I also have this issue with the Herc, just so inconsistent. Maybe we were the unlucky ones and were sold faulty products? Who knows but I'm not willing to spend more money to find out tho especially after the post that was made by @Sleepin in CA.
One minute its producing huge clouds, the next I'll be lucky if it produces anything. I've tried different consistency of concentrates, different mod recommendations to improve performance on here, and I even tired with two coils and the "runny" concentrate wouldn't even melt properly yet the device was so hot I could barely touch the outer shell lol. Very frustrating.
As much as I want to love this product, at this point I think I'm ready to jump ship for something more consistent. I'm honestly getting better hauls off the Ti Kiss 3.7 on a gpen mini battery no joke lol
It also seems like the Hercules NEEDS "The Core" as the batteries die within a day.
Even when I'm using the KISS 7.4 and have it absolutely packed with concentrate it still gives off pull thats extremely rough on the throat.
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chingdaddy
Member
I just picked up an Okeanos off sleepininca about a week ago. So far it's been really fun and puts out clean tasting milky clouds once you master it. I nicknamed it Annie Oakley..lol
Sleepin did already have his set up for best use. He replaced the red orings with black ones. I'm unsure of the size or quality comparison to the red ones. He also placed 2 rings on the bottom plate to help with the clogging issue apparently plaguing many users. I was still baffled when I first got it as to how to even put water in it. I was very frustrated trying to get this down. First of all, you will NEED lube of some type to create a seal. I used petroleum jelly. I also modded mine even further by adding a small rubber band that fits snugly around the bottom oring. That way the glass sits on the rubber band nicely. Use a little lube twist the glass 360° and you can now add water much easier. Once you tighten the top, it craetes a much better seal. Now that you're good to go, it's time to master the hit/draw speed.
My first few hits went rock star, but then it seemed like I just couldn't get it to cloud up very much or not at all. I blew through half a gram just trying to figure it out....oh well. I now have a consistent "milking" method. Oh fyi im using thr ophos as my power unit. What I do is load, press for about 2-3 secs and THEN begin drawing the vapor that has collected in the chamber. I draw a little hard at first to pull the initial vapor through, then I slow down keeping the draw steady until it milks up (this is the trickiest part to master). At this piont I let off the button and contine to draw, but a little bit more forcefully. If done correctly a second cloud will fill the glass chamber a second or two after letting go of the button! I had one instance where I got the chamber to cloud a third time while the button was unpressed, but I haven't been able to duplicate it again. It was pretty epic though. If you want to really kill shot your load, you can also press, wait, hit and repress right about time the second cloud starts or after clearing the initial clouding. You'll have to play around with this to maximize your hit quality.
As for loading, I have found that bigger globs tend to produce an awesome solid first hit or two, and then get wimpy as the product slides off the coil into the bottom of the kiss chamber. What I do then is take my tool and scrape it up. Then use this to heavy coat the coil/wick. I repeat the hit process from earlier. Usually a nice heavy coated wick will produce 2-3 more pulls for me! So overall one small dab will work out to 4-5 good pulls on the okeanos. I hope this helps some of you guys and gals out there.
Overall I will have to say I love my okeanos! Once you get it down its really sweet. Portability is good too. I need a case for it and my new Persei though. It takes so much of the harshness away, and tastes super clean. As for cons for the okeanos, first of all its not user friendly. Without the mods/info sleepininca or I did, this product would not perform properly if at all. As for how to make it perform well once it is set up took me a week to get down. Another thing about the okeanos is that it gets dirty pretty quickly. To be expected with anything h20. The con here is that cleaning is tedious and complete breakdown is necessary about every 3 seshes. I use iso, paper towels, and q tips. The MOST important part to keep clean is the center post and the little air holes at the bottom. If not, you're dead in the water. I iso soak it, then use a twisted paper towel end to wipe the inside out. As for clearing the air holes, I connect the bottom plate to the post blow them clean, wipe and repeat as necessary. I hope this helps some of you out there.
do you have AW batteries? I get like a week or 2 off mineI also have this issue with the Herc, just so inconsistent. Maybe we were the unlucky ones and were sold faulty products? Who knows but I'm not willing to spend more money to find out tho especially after the post that was made by @Sleepin in CA.
One minute its producing huge clouds, the next I'll be lucky if it produces anything. I've tried different consistency of concentrates, different mod recommendations to improve performance on here, and I even tired with two coils and the "runny" concentrate wouldn't even melt properly yet the device was so hot I could barely touch the outer shell lol. Very frustrating.
As much as I want to love this product, at this point I think I'm ready to jump ship for something more consistent. I'm honestly getting better hauls off the Ti Kiss 3.7 on a gpen mini battery no joke lol
It also seems like the Hercules NEEDS "The Core" as the batteries die within a day.
Even when I'm using the KISS 7.4 and have it absolutely packed with concentrate it still gives off pull thats extremely rough on the throat.
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
AW IMR Batteries, Nitecore charger.
I vape almost every 3-4 hours, The max I'll get out of them in 2 days.
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
Quick sessions tho. Maybe 2-3 total hauls haha
Quick sessions tho. Maybe 2-3 total hauls haha
oh. I take a pull or three every hour or so, and flowers in between if i feel the urge to roll a doobie or something usually. but I dont smoke errday
yeah maybe invest in the core, or an 18650 tube to run lightsaber mode
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
Haha thanks but at this point I think I'm going to try another product.
I thought it was maybe the batteries, so I bought two extra pairs of AW's and even bought a second Persei. Same results from the new batteries, Persei V1 and Persei V3 so I just cant get myself to spend any more money.
I also have this issue with the Herc, just so inconsistent. Maybe we were the unlucky ones and were sold faulty products? Who knows but I'm not willing to spend more money to find out tho especially after the post that was made by @Sleepin in CA.
One minute its producing huge clouds, the next I'll be lucky if it produces anything. I've tried different consistency of concentrates, different mod recommendations to improve performance on here, and I even tired with two coils and the "runny" concentrate wouldn't even melt properly yet the device was so hot I could barely touch the outer shell lol. Very frustrating.
As much as I want to love this product, at this point I think I'm ready to jump ship for something more consistent. I'm honestly getting better hauls off the Ti Kiss 3.7 on a gpen mini battery no joke lol
It also seems like the Hercules NEEDS "The Core" as the batteries die within a day.
Even when I'm using the KISS 7.4 and have it absolutely packed with concentrate it still gives off pull thats extremely rough on the throat.
sounds like you need to load moooooore
once I got my coil buffered, I fill it with wax almost up to where the SS top cap comes down. Probably like .4 on top of a fully saturated TI coil. And add more probably every other or 3rd day I use it. Once I can see the rod or coils sort of.
how's my rod placement THC? Did see that picture?
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
I feel that it seems to die out, as if it doesn't have enough power or something.
It produces vapor, but very minimal, I would have to take a 3 minute haul to fill my lungs. This happens just after maybe 3-4 sessions with fully charged batteries. Should I maybe try it without the bottom insulator connection? I'm scared I may harm the Persei doing so.
I'm guessing its the Hercules itself, I just cant get myself to buy a new one to confirm this. Too much trial and error on my side.
Yes I did please remind me of your issue? Busy week.
@caporoot but it's constant? As in if I sat down with it and I can reproduce your issue?
And yes you can try without the bottom adapter.
Caligula
Maximus
The Hercules burns though oil quickly if you let it and you can start hitting the buffer load without knowing it.
The buffer is NOT meant to be vaped from. When you start vaping off the buffer the hits become intermittent and start to taste burnt after a while. If this occurs, you then need to reload what you vaped out of the buffer THEN add more to vape on top of that. If you aren't adding extra to make up for this, you will hit the buffer even sooner... and this becomes a no win cycle of fail as your operating time within "optimal" gets shorter and shorter with each reload.
Just a thought as to what might be happening.
Basically, if you remove the top cap and you can see your coil then you need to add more concentrate.
The buffer is NOT meant to be vaped from. When you start vaping off the buffer the hits become intermittent and start to taste burnt after a while. If this occurs, you then need to reload what you vaped out of the buffer THEN add more to vape on top of that. If you aren't adding extra to make up for this, you will hit the buffer even sooner... and this becomes a no win cycle of fail as your operating time within "optimal" gets shorter and shorter with each reload.
Just a thought as to what might be happening.
Basically, if you remove the top cap and you can see your coil then you need to add more concentrate.
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
yes you would be able to reproduce this issue guaranteed. I have even let other experienced friends try to find the "sweet" spot but no luck.
I take about a 6-7 second hit if it produces what its suppose to. I add .3 for buffer (squeezed coil), quick pulses to melt it in with cap off, load in another .3 and hit for 6-7 seconds (if its working properly, if not I go as long as 15 seconds to try to get something), then a couple cool down hits totally of maybe 10 seconds?
If it's not working, I take off the cap, power the Persei and I can see there's concentrate "bubbling" within the coil yet won't produce vapor.
Do you have a DMM? If yes do this when this happens measure the voltage on the batteries (one by one).
Which rod are you using?
caporoot
Vapor > Smoke
I get a dull LED when using an 18350
i discovered also that if the herc is not all the way screwed into the persei, i can hold it in a certain position and get the full brightness