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DieHard

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You can run the omicron at 7.4v if you have the hvd top and two small batteries.
Yes I know I use my Omicron HVD at 7.4v with the Core. It works excellent, like a baby Persei. What battery configuration works at 7.4v with the Omicron HVD. The SS kit tubes cannot be stacked like the Persei.
 
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Mynameismud

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So what batteries are best for the Herc?
AW brand. They have them on w9 website...

1-18650 for 3.7V use (I use the 2000mah battery)
1-18350 700mah for SS tube and 3.7V use
2-18350s stacked for 7.4V use

Also, If I try some flower through it, I assume I'll need the White Rod at 23W...or does it come with that?
No. If you use the white rod with flowers it'll most likely burn. You can add a screen onto of the rod and coil with the white rod to vape both oil and flowers at the same time. (It's called fractional something) basically you vape the oil first and the heat and vapor from the oil travels up the path vaporizing the herbs in the process. Can be quite messy though...

For straight flowers you need a black rod and no coil. It's very difficult to get consistent results... I finall got my hands on an iris though I plan on immediately running the black rod at 4.0-4.2V to see if it works any better/easier ill report my findings this weekend hopefully
 
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cawshook

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Yes I know I use my Omicron HVD at 7.4v with the Core. It works excellent, like a baby Persei. What battery configuration works at 7.4v with the Omicron HVD. The SS kit tubes cannot be stacked like the Persei.
Two small batteries, long tube, and the bottom with the spring. I use it with the 5.0 ohm essential oil carts, but not tried it with the Hercules.
 
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thevaf

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Yes I know I use my Omicron HVD at 7.4v with the Core. It works excellent, like a baby Persei. What battery configuration works at 7.4v with the Omicron HVD. The SS kit tubes cannot be stacked like the Persei.

2x 14250s for the omicron hvd @ 7.4v

@Caligula I believe they are (Code: ILIKEUPTECH), but its the shipping + "handling" that is usually what is discounted out. Most other vendors offer cheaper shipping so it comes out about the same or lower cost. I've posted enough vendors that you guys can do your own comparison shopping.
 
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thevaf

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yup which comes out to $7.16


as for the Omicron 7.4v edition thats not going to work on the hercules unless you run the Core

$13.40/ea with shipping+handling+tax (including $1.79 discount)

RTDVapor has flat rate $2.99, but im sure it take a couple days longer.

If you are impatient, get it from W9, its usually at your door in a couple days.
 

herbivore21

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@Mynameismud consider yourself joined on the 3.7v rod front. I am gonna do it. If I can get a herc 3.7 to extract clouds from qwiso mixed thoroughly with super high grade kief, then I will be stoked.

Do you think this is a feasible plan? I do have major experience in various electrical engineering/technical roles from over the years, so fiddling is no concern at all :)
 
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Mynameismud

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@Mynameismud consider yourself joined on the 3.7v rod front. I am gonna do it. If I can get a herc 3.7 to extract clouds from qwiso mixed thoroughly with super high grade kief, then I will be stoked.

Do you think this is a feasible plan? I do have major experience in various electrical engineering/technical roles from over the years, so fiddling is no concern at all :)
I have never tried it, haven't made qwiso since way before I got the herc. Also have never tried with keif. The oil lasts a lot longer with the black rod and I usually get better results with the black rod when there's like a pool of oil on top instead of all absorbed in so I'm not sure how we'll it will work.

I'm still using my 74 white rod, but I have an iris on the way hopefully should be here by weekend. I immediately plan on cleaning out the herc and switching back to the black rod which is the first thing I wanna try with the iris. I can try some kief and wax then and see how it does if you don't mind waiting a few days
 

gudiss

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AW brand. They have them on w9 website...

1-18650 for 3.7V use (I use the 2000mah battery)
1-18350 700mah for SS tube and 3.7V use
2-18350s stacked for 7.4V use


No. If you use the white rod with flowers it'll most likely burn. You can add a screen onto of the rod and coil with the white rod to vape both oil and flowers at the same time. (It's called fractional something) basically you vape the oil first and the heat and vapor from the oil travels up the path vaporizing the herbs in the process. Can be quite messy though...

For straight flowers you need a black rod and no coil. It's very difficult to get consistent results... I finall got my hands on an iris though I plan on immediately running the black rod at 4.0-4.2V to see if it works any better/easier ill report my findings this weekend hopefully

mud, what about the (2)18650(s) providing 7.4v mega bat- w/ ss
 
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Hedonismbot

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I'm still using my 74 white rod, but I have an iris on the way hopefully should be here by weekend. I immediately plan on cleaning out the herc and switching back to the black rod which is the first thing I wanna try with the iris. I can try some kief and wax then and see how it does if you don't mind waiting a few days

Be careful with a black rod on the Iris. It's only 0.8 ohms. The Iris may just read "Lo" but if it does power it you would be drawing 5 amps at 4 volts (=20 watts). I think 5 amps is the limit for the Iris? So you wouldn't want to go much higher in voltage. But, if this is a v1 Iris you're getting, be aware of it's flaw that allows the full voltage to blast out sometimes. This behavior could blow the Iris up because of the excessive current demand from the black rod. I think your best bet is to put a white rod in the Herc and dial the power down with the Iris to what you need.

Good luck. I'll be interested in hearing your impressions of the Iris. I really miss mine :cry:.

Hedo
 

Mynameismud

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Be careful with a black rod on the Iris. It's only 0.8 ohms. The Iris may just read "Lo" but if it does power it you would be drawing 5 amps at 4 volts (=20 watts). I think 5 amps is the limit for the Iris? So you wouldn't want to go much higher in voltage. But, if this is a v1 Iris you're getting, be aware of it's flaw that allows the full voltage to blast out sometimes. This behavior could blow the Iris up because of the excessive current demand from the black rod. I think your best bet is to put a white rod in the Herc and dial the power down with the Iris to what you need.

Good luck. I'll be interested in hearing your impressions of the Iris. I really miss mine :cry:.

Hedo
I spoke to G about it, he said to use the black rod with 2-18350 batteries(7.4V) and then dial the power down to 4.0V, 4.2V being the max for it.

You wouldn't recommend doing that?

And I am aware of the "flaw" it's when you go to turn the iris completely off and click it 5 times right? Or does it happen other times too?

mud, what about the (2)18650(s) providing 7.4v mega bat- w/ ss
True forgot about that. But the person asking was asking for their new Persei they just purchased. Also not really a fan of that big a device
 
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thegoo

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Hey I was just about to purchase something on the w9 website and I noticed as I was checking out that there is a new "handling fee" of $2.99 added to every order. Has anyone else noticed/paid this yet? I did not notice it earlier today so I am assuming it is a change that just went in to effect.......
 
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Hedonismbot

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I spoke to G about it, he said to use the black rod with 2-18350 batteries(7.4V) and then dial the power down to 4.0V, 4.2V being the max for it.

You wouldn't recommend doing that?

And I am aware of the "flaw" it's when you go to turn the iris completely off and click it 5 times right? Or does it happen other times too?

Well... I wouldn't do it. While I've only noticed the power surge when turning off the Iris I do remember @OF saying that it happens at other times too. Let me find the post... Here is one.
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Maybe you can make it work by making sure to unscrew the Herc from the Iris each time before you turn it off but, like I said, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't be worried about damaging the heating rod but I'd be very worried about blowing the Iris.

And, there is no need to use a black rod when you can get 20 watts and below with a white heating rod more safely.

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With the SR71 white rod at 5.5 volts you would only be drawing 3.67 amps.
With the SR74 white rod at 6.8 volts you would only be drawing 2.96 amps.
The oil inside the Herc only cares about the power (watts) being delivered so why not do it the safest way possible?

Also, the minimum output voltage of the Iris is 3.5 volts, IIRC. So even if you could get the black rod to work you would only have a range of 3.5 - 4.0 volts to play with.

Hedo

edit: fixed link to OFs post.
 
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