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Ricardooayee

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I'm having a problem with the ti coil riding up the cartridge and putting all my oil in the threaded mouthpiece cap this has happened twice where I'm hitting my persei caetridge is getting hot I feel hot air but getting tiny vapors I take it apart and see the coil above the ceramic rod is my rod too low should I use two coils what's going on

That kept happening to me too. Usually happens when you start inhaling before warming up the herc or you're sucking too hard lol. To fix it try holding the button on the herc for 5 secs then start inhaling. Also inhale slowly. My friends didn't quite get the inhale on the herc so the way I explained to them was inhale like if there's something stuck in a straw. Just keep practicing the inhale. Hope I helped , herc has me pretty medicated.
 

syrupy

Authorized Buyer
Can I torch the Ti kiss cart a bit after I soak it in ISO and dry it.

You could, but why take the chance on overheating the coil that way? It's been cleaned by ISO, and air-dried. That sounds good enough.

I'm having a problem with the ti coil riding up the cartridge and putting all my oil in the threaded mouthpiece cap this has happened twice where I'm hitting my persei caetridge is getting hot I feel hot air but getting tiny vapors I take it apart and see the coil above the ceramic rod is my rod too low should I use two coils what's going on

I think the issue is with the old SS coils, when we cut them there was a bit of irregularity to the cut which helped anchor the coil. The TI ones sounds like (haven't tried one just going from others' posts) it is very smooth. Not sure what the solution was, maybe @Caligula or someone else came up with one...?
 
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lucky778

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The KISS carts big advantage is the clean taste due to build materials... Besides that, it pretty much a simple LAYG cart... The Hercules SR74 or 71 is what really makes the PERSEI shine... And vape!


Cool, so a kiss cart is the same setup as a MicroG type, understood.

So now as to why it's different, what about the materials that's it's made with makes it better?

:whip:No combustion. Let's get that outta the way. The rest I'll give it a shot. The wire heats up and melts the oil. Small loads are key. Oil melts into the windings of the coil and to a small extent, the ceramic rod (wick), the wire is wrapped around. Pulsing the button rather than constant mashing prevents the load from dripping into the white cup( ceramic). Ideally with good button technique, you should be able to keep the cup clean. I have not been successful yet...:brow:
Try this: put a small load on the coil and push the button without the cone and mouthpiece in place.
Watch what happens. After this you will understand the rest.


Thank for explaining. I have a question regarding the combustion/burning/vaporizing thing

My perspective is this: I used to smoke buds out of a bowl, to me this was BURNING OR COMBUSTING it. Then I discovered vaporizers like the Pax Ploom and the iolite and I felt like that was VAPOIZING weed. I like it better for many reasons. It felt healthier, it smelled a little less, it gave a different (better IMO) buzz.
Then I discovered BHO in shatter and wax form, and I liked it even better. I only ever used a MicroG. When I look in the top of it with the cap off and the button pressed it looks like the oil so being BURNED OR COMBUSTED, analogous to my old school bowl/bud days. So im wondering is there a similar was to vaporize oil. Then I do research on the Internet and discover sites like these, and different companies claim to have a better way and they market it as VAPORIZING.

But it seems to me that KISS carts/microG style is Combusting/burning, am I misguided in my thought process here
 
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kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Cool, so a kiss cart is the same setup as a MicroG type, understood.

So now as to why it's different, what about the materials that's it's made with makes it better?

The TI KISS carts use a ceramic wick as opposed to silica or fiber glass and their coil is made of grade 2 titanium, which is the standard that has been set for TI nails, pads, etc.
 
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Mynameismud

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Cool, so a kiss cart is the same setup as a MicroG type, understood.

So now as to why it's different, what about the materials that's it's made with makes it better?
Everything kindbeats said, the only thing on the inside of it is ceramic and the Ti wire. Its also user rebuildable and they are going to have rebuild kits available at some point i believe.
 
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StickyShisha2

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I'm having a problem with the ti coil riding up the cartridge and putting all my oil in the threaded mouthpiece cap this has happened twice where I'm hitting my persei caetridge is getting hot I feel hot air but getting tiny vapors I take it apart and see the coil above the ceramic rod is my rod too low should I use two coils what's going on

That kept happening to me too. Usually happens when you start inhaling before warming up the herc or you're sucking too hard lol. To fix it try holding the button on the herc for 5 secs then start inhaling. Also inhale slowly. My friends didn't quite get the inhale on the herc so the way I explained to them was inhale like if there's something stuck in a straw. Just keep practicing the inhale. Hope I helped , herc has me pretty medicated.

my friend's herc was having the same problem. I think i may have solved it for her.
When rebuilding after a full cleaning, i squashed the ti coil flatter between 2 coins.
this made the whole thing wider and a bit tricky getting it down into the herc tube.
it also made the hole in the coil smaller so it now contacts the rod.

overall, it hits quicker with less heat up time. more like the SS coil did. and it seems to have stopped sliding up.

i wonder if this (squashed ti coil) will be a problem when it is time to fully clean the herc again.
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
shit... I used one of the D-9 stock chargers last night, and something went wrong, instead of charging my batteries (2x 18350 AW) it ruined them... they were hot this morning and still showing red light, and the charger was hot too. :( bummed as that was my only good set, now they don't register any charge at all and show green lights on my other chargers. Needless to say the stock charger is in the trash now. I have been using chargers/batteries for a few years now and never saw anything like this before. Not sure what could have gone wrong the batteries were placed in the charger the same as always, positive up towards the LED. Going back to using the Xtar charger, only it has to have spacers to make the 18350 fit, so I can only charge one at a time... bummed
 
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shit... I used one of the D-9 stock chargers last night, and something went wrong, instead of charging my batteries (2x 18350 AW) it ruined them... they were hot this morning and still showing red light, and the charger was hot too. :( bummed as that was my only good set, now they don't register any charge at all and show green lights on my other chargers. Needless to say the stock charger is in the trash now. I have been using chargers/batteries for a few years now and never saw anything like this before. Not sure what could have gone wrong the batteries were placed in the charger the same as always, positive up towards the LED.


Damn I'm sorry to hear about your battery woes. I am usually pretty paranoid about leaving batteries charging unattended. I always charge them on a GFCI protected outlet. I had a home fire where I lost almost everything ( including 2 cats:cry:). The fire investigator couldn't say what caused it. :shrug:I know it wasn't my garden. They didn't find that!:tup: Although it was a total loss, my freedom remained intact. Who knows but that's the source of my paranoia.
 

jambandphan03

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Damn I'm sorry to hear about your battery woes. I am usually pretty paranoid about leaving batteries charging unattended. I always charge them on a GFCI protected outlet. I had a home fire where I lost almost everything ( including 2 cats:cry:). The fire investigator couldn't say what caused it. :shrug:I know it wasn't my garden. They didn't find that!:tup: Although it was a total loss, my freedom remained intact. Who knows but that's the source of my paranoia.

I too have been through a bad house fire a few years back (no pets at the time) but did loose a lot of important stuff. Never fun. Mine wasn't grow related either, basement had a wood stove that caught something... still a bit unclear on how exactly it started. I do have another set on the way that I ordered last week, so I'll only have a short down time.
 
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Ricardooayee

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I was using the stock charger up until yesterday when I got this Nitecore charger last night and I have got to say I already love it lol.

I'd also like to thank @Sleepin in CA for the smooth and easy transaction. I love the chrome tops man.

I recieved my black rod for my sr-74 and I just tried it out today and I have got to say you can ride this button and the flavor keeps coming out amazing. The hits aren't as full as with the white rod but it gets the job done just the same :D

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Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
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Fyi @THC SCIENTIFIC that is my old top (from a trade)....not the new one I got.


Also I have so much stuff waiting for me when I get home tomorrow! Dear God my mailbox must be bursting!

=)
 
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Todai

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Heads up. Vapor Warehouse is having a sale on KISS carts, they're $15.99 now. Sure, they're not the new Ti coils, but for $10.00 less per cart, I can deal. Grabbed 4 of them.

After getting my O-PHOS last week, I ended up getting an Omicron mini with HVD top also. You guys got me hooked!
 

thevaf

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Someone rigged a Triton (maybe?)!

:whoa:

triton is going to be much more refined and perform better.

I put this through the paces over the weekend and I think i like it better than the current KISS. I like being able to load it through the top half by taking the mouth piece off. I dont have to worry about placement, I just roll up a bb size and drop it right in. Also, i dont have to worry about scraping reclaim. Sleepin its something you would have no problem rebuilding for people :tup:
 
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