Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Yes my head unit is off. Both the KISS cart and HERC sit crooked. Im glad someone else posted theirs is the same and it drives them nuts. I was hoping i could adjust it??

Regarding the blinking lights i think its because the battery spring is a little week. I would want to solder on a stronger one. Or modify the original. Maybe just pull it out some so it has more tension? Has anyone already done that? This thread is ginormous!!

With the 2 holes in the base cap, nope my battery tool dont fit. The hole spacing is too far apart. Its close but no cigar. That would make more sense. Its a vent and there are 2 large holes for the batt adj tool to work. Im definitely into safety features. Guess im not a fan of the placement of the vent holes. Not trying to be a buzz kill. Just observing things and giving my opinion.

I was thinking more about the batteries while driving. I have a little tool that measures power draw. I can rig it to work in between the battery and a Percei accessory. You guys were saying the Herc doesnt work well on the stock batts. I could find out exactly how many amps the different batteries are able to supply. Then if i end up finding other brands of batteries i can test their performance with an actual meter. It will tell me volts of the battery and amps being drawn by the accessory.

Sorry to ask again but has anyone tweaked their output threads straight? Is it a press in fit or threaded? Wonder if i could gently tap tap tappa it straight.

I will be happy to take care of your issues.

The Battery adjustment tool does not work with the bottom cap, you need to take the bottom cap off then there is another plate that has two holes on it. that plate is designed to be adjusted up or down. The bottom cap can not be adjusted at all.


As for it sitting crooked can you show me a image of how it sits?

 

[Caligula]

Yes my head unit is off. Both the KISS cart and HERC sit crooked. Im glad someone else posted theirs is the same and it drives them nuts. I was hoping i could adjust it??

Regarding the blinking lights i think its because the battery spring is a little week. I would want to solder on a stronger one. Or modify the original. Maybe just pull it out some so it has more tension? Has anyone already done that? This thread is ginormous!!

With the 2 holes in the base cap, nope my battery tool dont fit. The hole spacing is too far apart. Its close but no cigar. That would make more sense. Its a vent and there are 2 large holes for the batt adj tool to work. Im definitely into safety features. Guess im not a fan of the placement of the vent holes. Not trying to be a buzz kill. Just observing things and giving my opinion.

I was thinking more about the batteries while driving. I have a little tool that measures power draw. I can rig it to work in between the battery and a Percei accessory. You guys were saying the Herc doesnt work well on the stock batts. I could find out exactly how many amps the different batteries are able to supply. Then if i end up finding other brands of batteries i can test their performance with an actual meter. It will tell me volts of the battery and amps being drawn by the accessory.

Sorry to ask again but has anyone tweaked their output threads straight? Is it a press in fit or threaded? Wonder if i could gently tap tap tappa it straight.

• The battery spring is designed to collapse if there is a short that the rest of the hardware was unable to deal with. This allows the battery to drop down and break contact with the head unit. Sort of a last resort precaution before your battery vents to atmosphere. Dont mess with the spring and if it collapses get a new one from W9.
• If the battery VTAs you need the airflow provided by the two vent holes to properly expel the rapidly expanding gasses and thus preventing your Persei from becoming a pipe bomb.
• There is an external (chrome) aluminum cap on the bottom of the Persei. The adjustment tool does not fit this as the spacing is off. Thats okay because you are meant to unscrew said end cap with your fingers.
• Under that chrome cap will be the battery level adjustment plate. This also has two holes in it, but as you will notice the adjustment tool should fit this just fine.
• A properly adjusted battery should have the top button (the metal nub on the positive end on the battery) being flush with the top of the Persei tube.
• You dont want to have the battery too high because there wont be room enough for the battery to drop and break contact if the spring compresses.

If I made too many assumptions please let me know but it sounds like this may answer some of your questions.

Edit: I see G kept it simple and got to this as I was typing a story out. Heh.

Also to avoid future issues, I suggest you do a skype session with someone over at W9 to get your Hercules up and running. Nothing ruins your experience more than fucking up something and wasting a bunch of time and concentrate. This isnt the Honda Civic of vape pens. Its more like an Indy car. I wouldnt expect a novice to be able to properly navigate a track in an 750hp, purpose built race car without proper instruction. You know?

 

[Sleepin in CA]

testing out the triton atm man its like having the hercules and nibbler xl in the okeanos.

Still gotta fix some issues but boy of boy is it doing what it intended to and that is to get my eyes all red.

I. Must. Has. This!

 

[GetToTheChoppa]

Really the spring actually compresses down to a different shape? Thats what i thought i read a week ago. But then looking at the spring i didnt seen any type of mechanism that would make it change shape.

I do understand how the battery adjustment tool is used and i saw the instructions about making the battery level. I thought people might crank it down tighter to keeps from shaking and losing contact. But obviously thats a dumb maneuver since the spring is some type of active fuse.

I can take a picture later THC. Thanks for the comment! And thanks for the advice everyone.

 

[Sleepin in CA]

@THC SCIENTIFIC when did you change the bottom cap to not work with the tool? All of mine fit. From my oldest v.1 (no persei logos) to the newest v.3 (white box 2 batteries), the tool fits all bottom caps. Was there a redesign?

Edit....my newest tool fits all caps also

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

@THC SCIENTIFIC when did you change the bottom cap to not work with the tool? All of mine fit. From my oldest v.1 (no persei logos) to the newest v.3 (white box 1batt), the tool fits all bottom caps. Was there a redesign?

No redesign never really seen it work, could be i used the prototypes before the persei release but never needed to use the tool on the cap. if my previous engineer made the change it could be why but oh well thats how i know it as it wont work because they are off by a few mm.

 

[DieHard]

Really the spring actually compresses down to a different shape? Thats what i thought i read a week ago. But then looking at the spring i didnt seen any type of mechanism that would make it change shape.

I do understand how the battery adjustment tool is used and i saw the instructions about making the battery level. I thought people might crank it down tighter to keeps from shaking and losing contact. But obviously thats a dumb maneuver since the spring is some type of active fuse.

I can take a picture later THC. Thanks for the comment! And thanks for the advice everyone.

The metal of the spring deforms with too much heat (dead short) and the weight of the batteries compress the heat softened spring, destroying the spring but saving your top.

My battery tool fits the SS kit bottom cap but not the standard cap.

 

[Sleepin in CA]

No redesign never really seen it work, could be i used the prototypes before the persei release but never needed to use the tool on the cap. if my previous engineer made the change it could be why but oh well thats how i know it as it wont work because they are off by a few mm.

I musta got lucky.

=)

 

[Caligula]

@GetToTheChoppa The spring heats up and sags, eventually becoming a flat disc of coil.

Edit: too slow once again

 

[Sleepin in CA]

My battery tool fits the SS kit bottom cap but not the standard cap.

Mine actually fits both. Im trippin out cuz I have 6 persei's from various productions, and my bottom caps are all adjustable by the tool. Must be the new factory/engineer like g said.

 

[syrupy]

You can't really adjust the bottom cap. You could use the tool to unscrew it (if it fits, mine doesn't), but fingers would be quicker.

Confession: As a w9 newb, I totally mistook the bottom cap for the adjustment plate fist time out. First thought was "Build is off here!" Second though was "Gee I'm dumb!".

 

[GetToTheChoppa]

Got you guys about the battery spring thanks!!
Whats the current version being sold a V3? Checking out the W9tech website and the warranty info section is calling them a V2xx.

 

[Sleepin in CA]

Got you guys about the battery spring thanks!!
Whats the current version being sold a V3? Checking out the W9tech website and the warranty info section is calling them a V2xx.

Well if you buy purple, you get the latest top. Found that out with a purchase of one. Though I'm sure they are moving old stock first, so I dont know about the other colors. My purple v3 (as I suspect) has a slightly updated head with persei logo under button, but they removed the R from in front of the numbers again.



This could just be a later version of a v2, I just call it a v3, as its a newer model with a new serial. I have had.no confirmation of it being one though.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

The v in the serial is for dating the electronics and the options before. Soon the v will drop as we work to perfect the top.

 

[ataxian]

This isnt the Honda Civic of vape pens. Its more like an Indy car. I wouldnt expect a novice to be able to properly navigate a track in an 750hp, purpose built race car without proper instruction. You know?

I use cannabis for medical reasons!
However the PERSEI makes medication happy!

Before I was ill I lived on the edge!

Surfing, Skiing, Super Fast Driving!
The PERSEI is like that!
POWER!

When surfing monster size waves we would say CHARGE!

"He who hesitates is lost"!

 

[GetToTheChoppa]

Was in the middle of nowhere today. Got internet at the local McDonalds. This shows the crooked head that i keep bitching about.

 

[Tstat]

I just wanted to update my experience. Last night my Lemon Skunk concentrate was ready. It came out extremely pure and sticky. I loaded some into the Hercules, melted it in and did that 3 times. I'm not sure how much I put in, but it was way less than .5.

The results were nothing short of amazing. Great taste and huge clouds. Today I'm going to order batteries. I drained them twice last night. This morning, I took a look at the cart and it seems there is still a lot of oil in there and with fresh batteries, sure enough I'm medicated again.

Again, thanks to everyone who helped me. The Persei is a complicated and somewhat strange device that many people might find cumbersome, but if you put the time in, you get great rewards. I think that is so cool, and really how I like to live my life.

 

[nao12000]

I just wanted to update my experience. Last night my Lemon Skunk concentrate was ready. It came out extremely pure and sticky. I loaded some into the Hercules, melted it in and did that 3 times. I'm not sure how much I put in, but it was way less than .5.

The results were nothing short of amazing. Great taste and huge clouds. Today I'm going to order batteries. I drained them twice last night. This morning, I took a look at the cart and it seems there is still a lot of oil in there and with fresh batteries, sure enough I'm medicated again.

Again, thanks to everyone who helped me. The Persei is a complicated and somewhat strange device that many people might find cumbersome, but if you put the time in, you get great rewards. I think that is so cool, and really how I like to live my life.

Glad it worked out for you !

 

[swanky]

Afternoon people. Yesterday I received my Persei/Bender/Herc super combo set up. I think I might have encountered a slight issue: After ISO cleaning of needed parts and charging batteries, and meticulously assembling the Persei, I am not getting any power:

I initially get 3 blinking lights when the battery pack makes contact with the top. The same thing happens when I use the Core. Also with the other fully charged batteries in the SS tubes. The batteries are installed flush as an FYI. The 3 blinking sequence is the only indication of power hitting the device. I have also systematically swapped 4 different attachments.

So I have struggled with this over the last 12 hours and researched pretty hard and yet able to find a solution. I have a few questions if anyone would please chime in I would really appreciate it:

1. Should I not have the power button lit while engaged?

2. Does this also happen without an attachment connected to the top?

I guess I am just trying to figure out if I might be the owner of a DOA top.

 

[halibutt]

Hi all - I have a question about loading my new KISS TI 7.4v cart. I understand it's designed to be load as you go, what I'm confused about is where I actually load it. Does the wax go directly on top of the coil or do I load it in the tube near the bottom so it drips onto the coil? Just want to make sure I use it correctly for the first time. Thanks.

 

[Vapvap]

Afternoon people. Yesterday I received my Persei/Bender/Herc super combo set up. I think I might have encountered a slight issue: After ISO cleaning of needed parts and charging batteries, and meticulously assembling the Persei, I am not getting any power:

I initially get 3 blinking lights when the battery pack makes contact with the top. The same thing happens when I use the Core. Also with the other fully charged batteries in the SS tubes. The batteries are installed flush as an FYI. The 3 blinking sequence is the only indication of power hitting the device. I have also systematically swapped 4 different attachments.

So I have struggled with this over the last 12 hours and researched pretty hard and yet able to find a solution. I have a few questions if anyone would please chime in I would really appreciate it:

1. Should I not have the power button lit while engaged?

2. Does this also happen without an attachment connected to the top?

I guess I am just trying to figure out if I might be the owner of a DOA top.

When you push the button, do you have light ?
If you have light, are you sure the rod is in contact with the golden pin in the down chamber ?

 

[swanky]

When you push the button, do you have light ?
If you have light, are you sure the rod is in contact with the golden pin in the down chamber ?

No light whatsoever. Only the 3 flashes when you screw in the batteries or Core.

 

[Sleepin in CA]

Hi all - I have a question about loading my new KISS TI 7.4v cart. I understand it's designed to be load as you go, what I'm confused about is where I actually load it. Does the wax go directly on top of the coil or do I load it in the tube near the bottom so it drips onto the coil? Just want to make sure I use it correctly for the first time. Thanks.

Directly onto the coil my man, try to avoid it getting in the tube.

=)

 

[Vapvap]

No light whatsoever. Only the 3 flashes when you screw in the batteries or Core.

Are the + batteries upside ?
Are you sure the upper battery flush with the top of the Persei body ?
Your batteries are 2 x 18350 ?

 

[swanky]

Are the + batteries upside ?
Are you sure the upper battery flush with the top of the Persei body ?
Your batteries are 2 x 18350 ?

Battery position is correct and flush. These are the batteries that came with it plus an extra set of 18350's & a set of 18650's. This is also happening with the Core