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Mynameismud

Accessory Maker
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@THC SCIENTIFIC I tried out my 3.7v ceramic rod tonight, and I was massively underwhelmed. My 7.4v rod rocks my face off with huge clouds. However, try as I might, I could only get thin puffs from my 3.7v. Is this the norm? My buffer plate is the same settings as it is for 7.4v. Sorry no multimeter. I also tried without the buffer plate, with just the cart and mouthpiece assembly from the sr71, same deal. Battery is fully charged also.
I assume you mean the black rod (and not the discontinued blue rod). I too was underwhelmed with the black rod running on a single AW IMR battery. I wrote about my experience here. The black rod (by design) supplies half the power of the white rod and this just doesn't work very well for stable waxes IMO. It's a shame too because I was hoping to use the black rod in a super stealth configuration. I'm pretty sure it would work much better with less viscous extracts like CO2 oils or ejuice although I haven't tried those with a black heating rod.

Since a lot of people will be getting a Core VV power supply very soon, if you want to try the power level of the black rod with a white rod setup set the voltage to 5.1v to 5.7v on the Core (or Iris) and see if that works for you. In my experiments with the white rod on an Iris the optimum voltage level for me using CO2 oil was around 6v and the optimum for very stable waxes and shatters was about 7v. More stable, hard to melt, extracts need more power to keep the oil/vapor engine running in the Herc. You can throttle the power by feathering the power button, of course, the VV supply just makes it easier to control and lees likely to burn your extract.

Hedo
I dont know if you guys have tried a cut down coil, but I would recommend cutting it so the rod is slight above the coil. The black 3.7V rod is more than capable of producing the same sized hits you get with the white rod and without any burnt taste at all. And my experience is coming from using rock hard shatter.

Also try placing the oil closer to the rod and preheating a little while puffing like a cigar before really inhaling...5-10 seconds and 3-4 puffs should get you seeing vapor and then all systems should be a go.
 

Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
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I dont know if you guys have tried a cut down coil, but I would recommend cutting it so the rod is slight above the coil. The black 3.7V rod is more than capable of producing the same sized hits you get with the white rod and without any burnt taste at all. And my experience is coming from using rock hard shatter.

Also try placing the oil closer to the rod and preheating a little while puffing like a cigar before really inhaling...5-10 seconds and 3-4 puffs should get you seeing vapor and then all systems should be a go.
I rock a 40% coil now, and the rest is as you describe. My issue is not with getting no vapor, it's the severely weak vapor that is produced. I've puffed and puffed, babied it, feathered it, etc. It's just not powerful enough for me. Thank Lur for the 7.4 white rod. Rocks my face off every time. I do appreciate the help though, so thank you.
 

PhotoRider

Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
I dont know if you guys have tried a cut down coil, but I would recommend cutting it so the rod is slight above the coil. The black 3.7V rod is more than capable of producing the same sized hits you get with the white rod and without any burnt taste at all. And my experience is coming from using rock hard shatter.

Also try placing the oil closer to the rod and preheating a little while puffing like a cigar before really inhaling...5-10 seconds and 3-4 puffs should get you seeing vapor and then all systems should be a go.
My experience also. The curve is lower and flatter verses the white rod if that makes since. Its temp change is a bit slower, but that's a good thing here for smooth control and taste. However properly controlled the white will out produce it in quantity, but not quality...
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
My experience also. The curve is lower and flatter verses the white rod if that makes since. Its temp change is a bit slower, but that's a good thing here for smooth control and taste. However properly controlled the white will out produce it in quantity, but not quality...
Their K.I.S.S. cart is a fun attachment!
The HERCULES SR71 White Rod is a kick your Shiny Ass attachment.
Just use them all!

Never wrong
Never right

Turn on the black light and quit thinking so much!
 

PhotoRider

Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Still haven't used my black rod, white one is doing so well I haven't felt the need yet.
Nothing wrong with that. My white rod is my go to baby when in need i.e. pound down a few shots and I am in a hurry.

Try the black rod sometime when you get some nice tasty oil and you are in the mood to slip some fine wine. Then you will have a choice to fit your mood.
 

Mynameismud

Accessory Maker
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I rock a 40% coil now, and the rest is as you describe. My issue is not with getting no vapor, it's the severely weak vapor that is produced. I've puffed and puffed, babied it, feathered it, etc. It's just not powerful enough for me. Thank Lur for the 7.4 white rod. Rocks my face off every time. I do appreciate the help though, so thank you.
Yeah i just dont get it, my black rod produces the same sized hits I can achieve with the white rod. Yes it takes a little more work and theres a bit more of a learning curve to achieve those results, but I never get weak or whispy hits with my black rod anymore(did get whispier hits when i first got it though). And the taste is soooo much better

To each their own though, if you prefer the white rod by all means stick with thats. But if you give it some time im sure you can achieve similar sized hits your looking for with the black rod
 

Silver420Surfer

Downward spiral
Honestly, I just hate to tear the Herc all down to switch out the rods. I really should becasue I bought some extra 18650s that are just colecting dust right now. I do remember the people who had black rods early seeming really to enjoy them. Kinda taken back by a few now who don't seem satisfied. MNIM, was really positive about his experiences, so it makes me wonder if others not having black rod success, are doing something wrong.
 
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jpdnkstr

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I'm rockin' the chameleon rod! (Iris v1 still kickin'!) Seriously though, I use the white rod on a regular top mostly, button feathering, coil size is key to near instant cloud production. Lets get those titanium stackable coils out! No need for any KISS's here, I'm getting blown (away) by my SR-71!
 

MaxVapor

The Professor
Yeah i just dont get it, my black rod produces the same sized hits I can achieve with the white rod. Yes it takes a little more work and theres a bit more of a learning curve to achieve those results, but I never get weak or whispy hits with my black rod anymore(did get whispier hits when i first got it though). And the taste is soooo much better

To each their own though, if you prefer the white rod by all means stick with thats. But if you give it some time im sure you can achieve similar sized hits your looking for with the black rod

I probably missed it or forgot, but can you give some detail of your methods? Black rod is most interesting to me.
 
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vape4health

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Im waiting for a replacement black rod but I'm really wishing it to work perfect @ 3.7. A single with the white rod is like a race car with a throttle limit set way freaking low, it'll get up just needs time.
 
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Mynameismud

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I probably missed it or forgot, but can you give some detail of your methods? Black rod is most interesting to me.
I use the same 30% coil i found good results with while using the white rod. The rod sits maybe 1-2mm above the coil. I then take my oil (only used shatter with the herc so far) and place it directly on top of the rod (about 0.2-0.3g). I then replace the cap and mouthpiece, press the button for about 5-10 seconds while puffing like a cigar. Once i see clouds i take the cap off and add another 0.2-0.3, replace the cap and hold the button again for a few seconds while puffing, then ill start puffing bigger and more dense clouds i start to inhale normally. And then after that i just press the button for a couple seconds before inhaling normally...once vapor production decreases its time to reload. This amount will last me a few days to a week or so
 

MaxVapor

The Professor
I use the same 30% coil i found good results with while using the white rod. The rod sits maybe 1-2mm above the coil. I then take my oil (only used shatter with the herc so far) and place it directly on top of the rod (about 0.2-0.3g). I then replace the cap and mouthpiece, press the button for about 5-10 seconds while puffing like a cigar. Once i see clouds i take the cap off and add another 0.2-0.3, replace the cap and hold the button again for a few seconds while puffing, then ill start puffing bigger and more dense clouds i start to inhale normally. And then after that i just press the button for a couple seconds before inhaling normally...once vapor production decreases its time to reload. This amount will last me a few days to a week or so

Thanks! I wish this forum had a favorites option. So .02 to .03 buffer and then a like sized load to vape. a week sounds good, I am currently going through less than .5 a week with other tools.

Do you note after it cools down and you come back to it does it need any re-priming?

Do you have to re-load the buffer when re-loading after 3 to 7 days?

TIA
 
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I'm rockin' the chameleon rod!
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Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
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@THC SCIENTIFIC hey I got my replacement top today. The problem is I sent in a purple one, and got back a black one. Can I please either exchange my purple battery tube and double top for matching black ones, or get a purple top to match my original persei?

It's murder for my ocd.
 
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Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
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http://www.ineedhemp.com/Atomizers.html
check out this site they have three different styles of LAyG with two of the styles claiming Ti and the other is this weird wickless system where the heating element basically lays right on top of the ceramic bowl. Has anyone tried these?
One down on the left looks like a gpen, cloud, iCloud pen. I have tried .em. They aren't so hot, very stealthy tho. The rest I can't really say.
 
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THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
i spent a good time working with the GR 2 Ti wire last couple of days and it looks like its getting better and better. Taste is unmatched at this point and im not saying its because its ours but from a patients point of view knowing that its as safe as safe can be its just putting it at a whole new world.




http://www.ineedhemp.com/Atomizers.html
check out this site they have three different styles of LAyG with two of the styles claiming Ti and the other is this weird wickless system where the heating element basically lays right on top of the ceramic bowl. Has anyone tried these?

Not one of them is claiming a Grade and i doubt its grade 2 if they arent. Just because its Ti doesnt mean its good Ti. Lots of grades of Ti, but we all know Grade 2 is far superior when it comes to nails and in this type of applications.

@THC SCIENTIFIC hey I got my replacement top today. The problem is I sent in a purple one, and got back a black one. Can I please either exchange my purple battery tube and double top for matching black ones, or get a purple top to match my original persei?

It's murder for my ocd.

I hate ocd as well, sorry for the issue please contact us on monday and we will handle it.
 

Hedonismbot

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I’ve been enjoying my Hercules so much that I forgot about my NibblerXL. So I got some glycerin (who recommended this? works great.) and rubbed a bit on the O-rings. The water tool went on and off pretty easily so far although I had a few drops of water come back out the first couple of times I pulled it off the Herc (lowered water level and took greater care). The nibbler definitely cooled down the hits nicely and flavor came through. I liked that it doesn’t add much to the overall length, maybe 1.5in. I also like that I get visual feedback on the vapor being produced.

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The thing that bugs me most about it though is that it must be pretty close to vertical to work (bubble) and with the vertical mouth piece I find myself hunching over it to use it. Also not so thrilled that it doesn’t use standard fittings but still, overall, for me it seems to work well. I can even lay the whole Percules/NibblerXL assembly on its side without water leaking.

Today I decided to try getting my Percules working with my infamous bubbler. This is the result:

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Both mouthpieces fit into the 18mm fitting on the infamous so I just keep the standard mouthpiece on the Herc. This setup worked fine too but I’m afraid that oil may leak out of the Herc mouthpiece by running it upside down. What do you think?

Hedo
 
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vaporchaser420

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I really appreciate that THC scientific goes out of their way to provide us with the safest materials to medicate with, I started with those glass globe type e-pens, which at first I loved until I realized how crappy many of them are, and how little info is given about the devices from the company, but not with G, with w9tech you get complete transparency, that makes me feel safer using this as a medical device and those other cheaply made products seem like novelty products.
 
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