Discontinued The Oracle Infrared Vaporizer
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Well it came in the mail and I am
impressed. First impression to me was that it was smaller then I had thought it was, which is a good thing. I never hit a bag vape before this one. I recommend the bubbler attachment over the standard hookah stack. I put a fair amount in probably .5 g and it blew me away. Easy to use right out of the box with their quick guide. Recommend this to anyone.
impressed. First impression to me was that it was smaller then I had thought it was, which is a good thing. I never hit a bag vape before this one. I recommend the bubbler attachment over the standard hookah stack. I put a fair amount in probably .5 g and it blew me away. Easy to use right out of the box with their quick guide. Recommend this to anyone.
Glad to hear your enjoying your Oracle Twanbiz!
Nice choice with the bubbler
Nice choice with the bubbler
max
Out to lunch
Still no sign of the Oracle at halfbakedgoods.net, but they did say that they were just starting to carry the model and expected a shipment any time now. They also have a 10% off sale this month (Sept.).
Glad you like it Twanbiz, but I think comparing to a model like the VHW would be apples and oranges.Twanbiz said:
max said:
Their first batch of units is on the way and set to arrive by tomorrow, the site should be updated shortly after.
240 and 220 versions will be ready towards the middle of 2012.
Hey Twanbiz,
You can get accessories directly from us or Planet Vape. Here's is a short list of what we offer so far:
Dry Biomass Bowl
Straight Stack Adapter
Hookah Stack Adapter (1, 2 and 4 hose capabilities)
Vapor Bag Adapter
Elbow Adapter (Bowl to hose directly, bypasses the bag)
Extra Bags
Replacement Hose + Clip
Glass Mouthpiece
Bubbler (with built-in back-flow protection)
Replacement Screens
Party Bag Kit (4 feet of fun)
Replacement Glass Bearings (for the bowl)
Everyone at BMI is a huge glass fanatic so we plan on introducing more unique pieces in the future. We also welcome custom requests since our glass is blown locally.
You can get accessories directly from us or Planet Vape. Here's is a short list of what we offer so far:
Dry Biomass Bowl
Straight Stack Adapter
Hookah Stack Adapter (1, 2 and 4 hose capabilities)
Vapor Bag Adapter
Elbow Adapter (Bowl to hose directly, bypasses the bag)
Extra Bags
Replacement Hose + Clip
Glass Mouthpiece
Bubbler (with built-in back-flow protection)
Replacement Screens
Party Bag Kit (4 feet of fun)
Replacement Glass Bearings (for the bowl)
Everyone at BMI is a huge glass fanatic so we plan on introducing more unique pieces in the future. We also welcome custom requests since our glass is blown locally.
scientificsmoker
Member
I received my order from halfbakedgoods.net (ordered last week tuesday, this tuesday)(7days) but they had the best price and with a 15% discount for October the total price was $375. I ordered the bubbler attachment from vapornation wednesday and it came that saterday (3days).
Background:
I have had a vapor bros for a long time and recently acquired a magic flight and vaporgenie for on the go and solo use. I have reoccurring bronchitis and the VB still seemed too harsh so I looked for something engineered to produce high quality clean consistent vapor. I initially bought a digi-volcano but before i had received it I came across the Oracle on this thread(read it all). After comparing prices 670 vs 375 and not wanting to spend 670, and being very intrigued with the infrared heating I ordered the Oracle and sent the Volcano back.
My initial review (ratings: horrible/bad/OK/good/excellent)
[I may edit or post updates as time & use goes on]
quality of vapor: excellent
the first bag was mostly empty but I just turned the temp up a little and the next bag was wonderful, by far the best vaping I've experienced
appearance of unit: OK (this part will be nit picky and doesn't effect the performance of the unit so feel free to skip, this is mostly for the oracle company)
upon opening the box i was kind of worried with the appearance. the glass fitting on top is slightly off center. a digital display could look slick and be lot better than the aluminum knob. the warning sticker on back looks like it was printed off on my old inkjet but doesnt matter since its on the back. Also the oracle text on the side looks all blotchy and drippy, like who ever used the stencil tried to paint a thick coat all at once. maybe you guys should use vinyl stickers instead, or better stencil painting training. overall though almost all of these are minor, and should not even be a factor when considering the price compared to the volcano.
design & usability: good to almost excellent
it was pretty easy to pack it up and get it going but changing bowls is kind of a hassle, it should include an extra glass bead or two. Also what am i supposed to do to clean the stuff out of the infrared chamber? i understand the glass bead & screen is supposed to stop stuff from falling back in, mostly it does, but even after the first couple uses i can see some little pieces of stuff in there.
Background:
I have had a vapor bros for a long time and recently acquired a magic flight and vaporgenie for on the go and solo use. I have reoccurring bronchitis and the VB still seemed too harsh so I looked for something engineered to produce high quality clean consistent vapor. I initially bought a digi-volcano but before i had received it I came across the Oracle on this thread(read it all). After comparing prices 670 vs 375 and not wanting to spend 670, and being very intrigued with the infrared heating I ordered the Oracle and sent the Volcano back.
My initial review (ratings: horrible/bad/OK/good/excellent)
[I may edit or post updates as time & use goes on]
quality of vapor: excellent
the first bag was mostly empty but I just turned the temp up a little and the next bag was wonderful, by far the best vaping I've experienced
appearance of unit: OK (this part will be nit picky and doesn't effect the performance of the unit so feel free to skip, this is mostly for the oracle company)
upon opening the box i was kind of worried with the appearance. the glass fitting on top is slightly off center. a digital display could look slick and be lot better than the aluminum knob. the warning sticker on back looks like it was printed off on my old inkjet but doesnt matter since its on the back. Also the oracle text on the side looks all blotchy and drippy, like who ever used the stencil tried to paint a thick coat all at once. maybe you guys should use vinyl stickers instead, or better stencil painting training. overall though almost all of these are minor, and should not even be a factor when considering the price compared to the volcano.
design & usability: good to almost excellent
it was pretty easy to pack it up and get it going but changing bowls is kind of a hassle, it should include an extra glass bead or two. Also what am i supposed to do to clean the stuff out of the infrared chamber? i understand the glass bead & screen is supposed to stop stuff from falling back in, mostly it does, but even after the first couple uses i can see some little pieces of stuff in there.
charliedontsurf
Medical
Great first post and a good, balanced review, Scientific! Welcome to the forum, and please keep us updated, alot of us are curious about the Oracle.
scientificsmoker
Member
update:
so after another day, I have to say the look has grown on me, the stainless steel is pretty once you wipe it down. the screws dont look nearly as bad as the first versions(pg11). the glass all looks good. the vapor is wonderful i must say that again, super smooth, very potent.
as others have mentioned that 10sec heat time is under best conditions, ie very dry ground herb. i will start to pre grind mine and set it out to dry as people do.
possible improvements: adding the temp printed to fit around the knob would be handy, so we don't have to refer to the manual, or include transparent stickers in C and F. even better... the best would be a digital display. also my bowl didnt come with a screen pre installed, no big deal, but the instruction pamphlet didnt mention it.
increase the size/height of the aerogel ring around the biomass chamber.
not necessary but as another poster said, USB connection, just make it a simple serial terminal with some basic commands; on/off/set-temp/read-temp, if we could have more control that would be cool.
overall i am very satisfied with the performance of this vaporizer, the basic design is solid. I have never been so heavily medicated so quickly from a vaporizer before. i think with a little more fine tuning/polishing this could overtake the volcano as the default go to high quality vaporizor.
so after another day, I have to say the look has grown on me, the stainless steel is pretty once you wipe it down. the screws dont look nearly as bad as the first versions(pg11). the glass all looks good. the vapor is wonderful i must say that again, super smooth, very potent.
as others have mentioned that 10sec heat time is under best conditions, ie very dry ground herb. i will start to pre grind mine and set it out to dry as people do.
possible improvements: adding the temp printed to fit around the knob would be handy, so we don't have to refer to the manual, or include transparent stickers in C and F. even better... the best would be a digital display. also my bowl didnt come with a screen pre installed, no big deal, but the instruction pamphlet didnt mention it.
increase the size/height of the aerogel ring around the biomass chamber.
not necessary but as another poster said, USB connection, just make it a simple serial terminal with some basic commands; on/off/set-temp/read-temp, if we could have more control that would be cool.
overall i am very satisfied with the performance of this vaporizer, the basic design is solid. I have never been so heavily medicated so quickly from a vaporizer before. i think with a little more fine tuning/polishing this could overtake the volcano as the default go to high quality vaporizor.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
Something really has me with brain on the Oracle recently. Oh wait, Oracle on the brain. Went back and watched all the videos again, skimmed through the thread a second time, and hooked up and rocked a few bags on the Extreme. Although the E is the only bag vape i own, i have quiet a bit of Volcano experience and a bit from the HA. I would really liked to try the newest and hopefully greatest in bag technology. The Volcano is good, but so outdated. I mean really? All other vapes have changed so much since then (portables, whip, H2o filtered), but the Volcano is mostly unchanged. It shows it was great when it was made, to survive in the industry this long when no others have but .... OK, now im blazed and rambling.
What I really want to know, is The Oracle the new benchmark in bag vaporizers? Is this the new best of the best in its category? The Holy Grail, as i like to call the VXC? Id like to give you my opinion on this later, we'll see.
*edit: 999 posts? No shit.
What I really want to know, is The Oracle the new benchmark in bag vaporizers? Is this the new best of the best in its category? The Holy Grail, as i like to call the VXC? Id like to give you my opinion on this later, we'll see.
*edit: 999 posts? No shit.
Egzoset
Banned
Hi,
Could you please explain what's such a great achievement in bag technology with the Oracle, 'cause i just don't get it - although i have no doubt it's execellent, just like the halogen heater technology which is quite another story...
Ah, and thanks for reminding us about its space-age cutting-edge "aerogel" heat insulation technology, ScientificSmoker!
Could you please explain what's such a great achievement in bag technology with the Oracle, 'cause i just don't get it - although i have no doubt it's execellent, just like the halogen heater technology which is quite another story...
Ah, and thanks for reminding us about its space-age cutting-edge "aerogel" heat insulation technology, ScientificSmoker!
Well I'm new to bag vapes but not other style vapes. I can't speak for how long the volcano or extreme takes to heat up but I can go from cold start to being done with A bag in a really short time, only minutes. I can get two down in as long as it would take other vapes to even get going. Plus the hookah stacks take it to another level.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
Egzoset said:Hi,
Could you please explain what's such a great achievement in bag technology with the Oracle, 'cause i just don't get it - although i have no doubt it's execellent, just like the halogen heater technology which is quite another story...
Ah, and thanks for reminding us about its space-age cutting-edge "aerogel" heat insulation technology, ScientificSmoker!
Who is this question directed to? Me? I have no idea if you're really asking a question, or just taking a stab at some kind of sarcasm.
If you read my last post, it is pretty easy to come to the conclusion that i have never tried the Oracle, but would very much like to. I have no idea if its the latest and greatest, but would love to place my opinion. I shot an email to the Oracle team, sounds like they are currently waiting on some parts, but i will get myself a Oracle sometime in the future.... damn, had the itch for another vape.
I think there is without a doubt some interesting innovations the oracle team has tried to work in, heat up time seems stellar, and the hooka stack seems like a neat concept.
scientificsmoker said:
A long q-tip with some rubbing alcohol should be enough to clean up any small bits at the bottom of the chamber. Also, congratulations on your new Oracle!
Egzoset said:
When first designing the Oracle, we wanted to offer people a simple, fast and easy way to vaporize on-demand. Unfortunately this was not enough for us, we also spent a significant amount of time and money designing custom components to fit everyone's particular needs. We believe high end vaporizers should offer everything the user needs and more.
IAmKrazy2 said:
Glad to hear the Oracle will be joining your arsenal of vapes, IAmKrazy2. The moment we restock, i'll fire you off a confirmation email.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
Thanks for the response.
I have been drooling all day over the concept of packing a bowl, pressing a button, and pulling vapor with 10 seconds. Amazing. I can see myself most likely to leave the bag in place, and hitting from the whip. I have been very impressed with the consistancy of the ABV.
Just to clarify my above quoted statment "damn, had the itch for another vape" I am not at all concerned about the turn around time. I was saying damn, because I'm reaching into my damn pocket again soon.
I have been drooling all day over the concept of packing a bowl, pressing a button, and pulling vapor with 10 seconds. Amazing. I can see myself most likely to leave the bag in place, and hitting from the whip. I have been very impressed with the consistancy of the ABV.
Just to clarify my above quoted statment "damn, had the itch for another vape" I am not at all concerned about the turn around time. I was saying damn, because I'm reaching into my damn pocket again soon.
hereatlast
Well-Known Member
Egzo, I think you asked a legitimate question but quoting people out of context like that is a bit unfair IMO. The original quote read:
It should be pretty clear in what ways Oracle has set themselves apart IMO. Intensely fast start-up time and vapor quality seem to be the bragging points here (a GonG connection for bags is also a draw). I too would love to get my hands on an Oracle down the road and confirm these reports; push-the-button-to-vape sounds fantastic for so many scenarios.
IAmKrazy2 said:
It should be pretty clear in what ways Oracle has set themselves apart IMO. Intensely fast start-up time and vapor quality seem to be the bragging points here (a GonG connection for bags is also a draw). I too would love to get my hands on an Oracle down the road and confirm these reports; push-the-button-to-vape sounds fantastic for so many scenarios.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
IAmKrazy2 said:Egzoset said:Hi,
Could you please explain what's such a great achievement in bag technology with the Oracle, 'cause i just don't get it - although i have no doubt it's execellent, just like the halogen heater technology which is quite another story...
Ah, and thanks for reminding us about its space-age cutting-edge "aerogel" heat insulation technology, ScientificSmoker!
Who is this question directed to? Me? I have no idea if you're really asking a question, or just taking a stab at some kind of sarcasm.
If you read my last post, it is pretty easy to come to the conclusion that i have never tried the Oracle, but would very much like to. I have no idea if its the latest and greatest, but would love to place my opinion. I shot an email to the Oracle team, sounds like they are currently waiting on some parts, but i will get myself a Oracle sometime in the future.... damn, had the itch for another vape.
I think there is without a doubt some interesting innovations the oracle team has tried to work in, heat up time seems stellar, and the hooka stack seems like a neat concept.
Why are you taking my posts out of context? Thanks hereatlast.
If you read anything i have written, it is simple i have never tried the product.
I still have never mentioned anything about achievements. So maybe you were directing your question to someone else? This vape doesn't mean anything until i try at and approve of the vapor. but do you know of another home unit that heats up this quick? another unit that uses infrared? Another bag/whip unit at the same time?
IAmKrazy2 wrote:
I have no idea if you're really asking a question, or just taking a stab at some kind of sarcasm.
You: "Why do i have to stand trial every now and then just for asking a simple question?
Perhaps i just expected a normal answer to a normal question."
Seriously, i have no idea if you were asking me a question. You didn't quote anything and talked about achievements. i had never mention anything like that, just that i wished to try the product, and hoped it was as good as the impression i got from max vtac and others. i hope it is better then the volcano. the technology is WITHOUT A DOUBT, updated over the volcano..... so what's the questions again and who the hell are you asking it to? Is that a "normal question?" if you feel you are "on trial" for making a post that IMO opinion made no sense, then ok maybe we'll end up agreeing to disagree.
Egzoset
Banned
Okay, it seems i need to "develop"...
I'm afraid there's no sarcastic content in my post relatively to "Bag Technology", sorry. Keep searching!
To me, the whole subject of bag technology refers to its structure and material(s). So, here's what bag technology sounded like when i explored this topic, specifically:
Water Falls, Gravity Bongs, etc. are alternatives to bag technologies which can try to emulate some of the features common to those.
I'm afraid there's no sarcastic content in my post relatively to "Bag Technology", sorry. Keep searching!
To me, the whole subject of bag technology refers to its structure and material(s). So, here's what bag technology sounded like when i explored this topic, specifically:
Water Falls, Gravity Bongs, etc. are alternatives to bag technologies which can try to emulate some of the features common to those.
max
Out to lunch
I don't think you've developed very well Egzoset.
I could tell you why I like the Oracle better than any other vape that fills bags, and what I consider to be its strengths, but I've already posted my opinion, and I'm not sure that's the info you're looking for. Maybe you need to start up an email dialog with The Oracle. I'm sure he'd be glad to provide explanations about his technology, and you can work out any communication issues without getting sidetracked by other posters. You're welcome to post your opinions here, but I don't see a lot of point in going back and forth with others on the subject, when we're having such trouble following your point.
I don't know, but it's not the first time your posts have sparked issues with other members. I suggest you make more of an effort to make straightforward posts that offer no hints of sarcasm or provocation. And this is an 'official comment'.
smoking devices. We don't do smoke here, for the most part. And certainly comparing smoking devices to this vape just clouds the issue.
I know you have your own ideas on bag fill technology, but you've been reading and posting in this thread for a year. I don't know why you'd come out with such a question at this point, and the way you worded it is not what we'd like to see here.
I could tell you why I like the Oracle better than any other vape that fills bags, and what I consider to be its strengths, but I've already posted my opinion, and I'm not sure that's the info you're looking for. Maybe you need to start up an email dialog with The Oracle. I'm sure he'd be glad to provide explanations about his technology, and you can work out any communication issues without getting sidetracked by other posters. You're welcome to post your opinions here, but I don't see a lot of point in going back and forth with others on the subject, when we're having such trouble following your point.