The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

[MonkeyTime]

I don't know what it is about the Mighty or just flower vaping in general but I'm getting throat irritation and way too much dryness/dehydration and I'm trying everything to not make this happen.

Took 2 inhalations of the Mighty at 360 degrees this morning in native mode and I would think it shouldn't be irritating to the throat even without a water piece considering I used such a low temp?

My sinus passages feel a bit irritated but the throat thing and dryness of the throat is something I really can't stand especially considering I need my voice to sing.

I'm buying the best of the best (Volcano classic is on the way) to try to find a way to vape flower comfortably. I really want to make this work and do not want to go back to combustion.

Whatever negatives there are with combustion (plenty I know) I didn't get these types of side effects especially with 1 or 2 hits combustion micro-dosing. I'm getting frustrated with this whole process.

Wish I was as happy about flower vaping as everyone else is here yet it's not quite working for me?

I love the herb and the healthiest way of consumption is first and foremost the most important thing for me. Edibles and tinctures are too heavy for me to try doing daily and I'm not crazy about the edible hangover.

Have you access to another vaporizer or different herb? It's possible that this particular strain irritates you more than most? Sorry if I forgot that part of the story if it's been told or some of the details you did.

I consider myself a borderline throat issue vapist. I have throat issues with dryness and heat occasionally, but usually at my own fault, I tend to start at high temps and go up from there! I do earn some of my problems.

But I also notice the difference between strains and how I'm feeling without this added irritant. If I have a bit of a head cold and vape my normal style, my throat bothers more than usual.

While the Mighty can hit pretty hard at higher temps, I think of it as a pretty smooth lower temp vape. I'm trying to look from all angles on this......

@LesPlenty Lovin' that J Hook brother!

 

[david8613]

When I use the Mighty on the Rattle Can I start on Max temperature from the get go.
I have been using the Mighty with the glass WPA mounted on a small J-hook of late at home and native when out and about.

It is now totally full of glass balls, it might be a honey trap but I like the way it twinkles in the light.

that looks awesome!!!

I never used water, do I wanna start small, what is good universal bubbler straw attachment that can work with the mighty, dynavap and ghost mv1?

 

[LesPlenty]

I like Rattle Cans with most herb vapes, here;
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-bubbler.5255/page-1078#post-1408292
Don't know about the Ghost.

 

[mitchgo61]

While the Mighty can hit pretty hard at higher temps, I think of it as a pretty smooth lower temp vape. I'm trying to look from all angles on this......

I use the Mighty a lot at higher temps. I may cough but I rarely have throat issues. The vapor never seems hot to me.

They don’t call the lid assembly a “cooling unit” for no reason.....the vapor travels a surprisingly long path through the baffles in the CU which cools it down considerably. I would agree that anyone feeling that the vapor from the Mighty is particularly “hot” may be using a strain that is more irritating than your average flower.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I use the Mighty a lot at higher temps. I may cough but I rarely have throat issues. The vapor never seems hot to me.

They don’t call the lid assembly a “cooling unit” for no reason.....the vapor travels a surprisingly long path through the baffles in the CU which cools it down considerably. I would agree that anyone feeling that the vapor from the Mighty is particularly “hot” may be using a strain that is more irritating than your average flower.

I take it you use it in "native" mode without a water piece?
I guess with a water piece you can't use the cooling top (unit)

 

[vapviking]

I take it you use it in "native" mode without a water piece?
I guess with a water piece you can't use the cooling top (unit)

Some folks run a piece of tubing from the cooling unit to a water piece, though it does seem to be overkill.

 

[MonkeyTime]

I take it you use it in "native" mode without a water piece?
I guess with a water piece you can't use the cooling top (unit)

There's also the option to use a silicone adapter, but I agree with @vapviking in it being overkill. I don't dirty my CU's when going thru water.

 

[mitchgo61]

I take it you use it in "native" mode without a water piece?
I guess with a water piece you can't use the cooling top (unit)

Yeah I don’t use a water tool. I tend to break glass pretty quickly. I find the Mighty vapor quite cool....not as cool as the original FF but for a plastic unit the vapor is surprisingly mellow.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Why does the Mighty dehydrate me like no tomorrow? Even in the lower ranges such as 360-380 it dehydrates my whole body and I have to drink tons of water to compensate.

Will using a water tool reduce this somewhat? and what is your method when using this? How many hits are you taking in the 2 minutes prior to the unit shutting off? do you turn the unit back on or take the temp up to keep the unit from shutting off? What is your process when filling the chamber and doing a session? How many hits, how long do you run for etc.

Thanks in advance! This thing is driving me batty!

sore/irritated throat....drink over 1.5 liters of water to rehydrate myself...can't stand it

 

[Xclerk]

Why does the Mighty dehydrate me like no tomorrow? Even in the lower ranges such as 360-380 it dehydrates my whole body and I have to drink tons of water to compensate.

Will using a water tool reduce this somewhat? and what is your method when using this? How many hits are you taking in the 2 minutes prior to the unit shutting off? do you turn the unit back on or take the temp up to keep the unit from shutting off? What is your process when filling the chamber and doing a session? How many hits, how long do you run for etc.

Thanks in advance! This thing is driving me batty!

sore/irritated throat....drink over 1.5 liters of water to rehydrate myself...can't stand it

I hear about dryness alot w the mighty. I think it's doing such a good job at extraction the remaining material literally becomes dust. I think some makes it through the cooling unit and its tiny particulate irritating. Ive done some test w cotton in the cooling unit it helps. Its strange because even through water I sometimes feel this. Dont get me wrong. I love my mighty. Ive just learned the less fine of a grind the better. Which is strage considering how fine storz bickel grinders are.

 

[vapviking]

Why does the Mighty dehydrate me like no tomorrow? Even in the lower ranges such as 360-380 it dehydrates my whole body and I have to drink tons of water to compensate.

Will using a water tool reduce this somewhat? and what is your method when using this? How many hits are you taking in the 2 minutes prior to the unit shutting off? do you turn the unit back on or take the temp up to keep the unit from shutting off? What is your process when filling the chamber and doing a session? How many hits, how long do you run for etc.

Thanks in advance! This thing is driving me batty!

sore/irritated throat....drink over 1.5 liters of water to rehydrate myself...can't stand it

The short answer is that you're breathing in hot, dry air. But the large amounts of water you're consuming may have as much to do with the cannabis effect as the vape.
A water tool might help with immediate relief from harsh hits and heat.
Lately I use a Delta3dstudios v3 wpa and an in-line bubbler -- a 14mm Pinnacle Pro hydrotube. They're getting harder to find, I don't know if they're made anymore. Knockoffs come up on ebay or from China.

I suggest less worry about the 2 minute safety, it's there to turn the unit off should you space it out. If you're taking hits, Mighty can tell by fluctuation in temperature and will stay on. If you want to really ensure it stays on, every so often push either temp button briefly. Any temp change re-sets the timer.

I use the S&B filling tool only when I need some portability/convenience. Otherwise, an infant spoon right outta the grinder, or a pour from small bottle. Or the caps, of course.

Number of hits and length of session will both vary a lot according to the herb and amount of herb you put in the chamber. Will also depend on method and temp settings you're using. Start your own science experiments!

 

[chris 71]

Why does the Mighty dehydrate me like no tomorrow? Even in the lower ranges such as 360-380 it dehydrates my whole body and I have to drink tons of water to compensate.

Will using a water tool reduce this somewhat? and what is your method when using this? How many hits are you taking in the 2 minutes prior to the unit shutting off? do you turn the unit back on or take the temp up to keep the unit from shutting off? What is your process when filling the chamber and doing a session? How many hits, how long do you run for etc.

Thanks in advance! This thing is driving me batty!

sore/irritated throat....drink over 1.5 liters of water to rehydrate myself...can't stand it

I have just recently gotten a mighty too . today is my 6th day with it , i have used it a few times a day since i got it .

One of the first things i did was change the screen that came installed in the cooling unit with the fine screen that came in the little plastic bag with the extra gaskets and stuff .

I noticed after my first session that the screen that came installed didnt stop the fine particles from making there way right to the mouth stem .
Maybe if you havnt done this it might be worth a try ?

Having said that i have noticed a bit of throat irrataion too with the mighty not terrible but i do feel it .

After 6 days and trying it with the full bowl , with the dosing capsules , and with the concentrate pad on top to make a smaller bowl . I can say wow this thing can really rip to the point i will only be using weaker strains , if i used some stronger stuff like 20 % thc and a full bowl i would be way to high lol

I like just using the dosing capsules . the native bowl is too much for me .

I think it can dry you out not becuse of the hotness which i dont find it hot at all . The cooling unit works great . But maybe just the huge clouds of vapor lol

 

[vapviking]

@chris 71 I think that after a few bowls the c/u is lined with some resin and that will tend to catch a lot more of the particulates. Capsules are another inhibitor, and of course, grind.
Folks debate the screen thing, especially when using capsules. Cap lids and the c/u screen can tend to get real sticky, a condition that's a little worse with fine screen. Some cap users don't use c/u screen at all, and their cap lids are less sticky.
I think most flower vapes are going to let some particles through, even those we can't see!
The trade-off is always between cleaner/cooler vape and actual goods delivered to the user. People with sensitivities like throat issues walk the line.

 

[Truth Seeker]

@chris 71 I think that after a few bowls the c/u is lined with some resin and that will tend to catch a lot more of the particulates. Capsules are another inhibitor, and of course, grind.
Folks debate the screen thing, especially when using capsules. Cap lids and the c/u screen can tend to get real sticky, a condition that's a little worse with fine screen. Some cap users don't use c/u screen at all, and their cap lids are less sticky.
I think most flower vapes are going to let some particles through, even those we can't see!
The trade-off is always between cleaner/cooler vape and actual goods delivered to the user. People with sensitivities like throat issues walk the line.

The use of the capsule sounds like a great idea for cutting down on particulates, changing the screen might be good too. Yet I was getting some minor tooth aches from the Mighty which I blame on the heat and the heat source being so close to the mouth. Just got a Volcano yesterday.............kicking myself for not going that route sooner....

These portable units just not be for me as it might be too much of an art and science to get the proper technique right so I don't feel as much negative side effects which is very frustrating.

 

[MonkeyTime]

The use of the capsule sounds like a great idea for cutting down on particulates, changing the screen might be good too. Yet I was getting some minor tooth aches from the Mighty which I blame on the heat and the heat source being so close to the mouth. Just got a Volcano yesterday.............kicking myself for not going that route sooner....

These portable units just not be for me as it might be too much of an art and science to get the proper technique right so I don't feel as much negative side effects which is very frustrating.

Can I ask how many other vapes you've used or owned? IMO the Mighty doesn't deliver hotter than average vapor, certainly not enough hotter to cause tooth sensitivity.

This sounds more like new user questions than new Mighty user?

 

[Truth Seeker]

Can I ask how many other vapes you've used or owned? IMO the Mighty doesn't deliver hotter than average vapor, certainly not enough hotter to cause tooth sensitivity.

This sounds more like new user questions than new Mighty user?

I've bought a few i the past..Extreme Q, MFLB, Cloudious 9.

 

[chris 71]

The use of the capsule sounds like a great idea for cutting down on particulates, changing the screen might be good too. Yet I was getting some minor tooth aches from the Mighty which I blame on the heat and the heat source being so close to the mouth. Just got a Volcano yesterday.............kicking myself for not going that route sooner....

These portable units just not be for me as it might be too much of an art and science to get the proper technique right so I don't feel as much negative side effects which is very frustrating.

I used to think it was something to do with heat to but its not i foind this out using the extreame q with bags for a while . No heat issue using a bag vape but i found i still got the same throat irrataion .

I used to get irrataed throat and lubg issues more when it was closer to the time i was still smoking
Im not sure why but it happens alot and there are lots of threads here with new users or users that still smoke that have the irrataion more for some reason .

I started vaping in late 2011 and it took quiting smoking for a good long while before the irrataion from vapong mostly went away

Oh and the capsules didnt stop the particals getting through the cooling unit for me not untill i put the fine screen in

 

[macbill]

I have sensitive lungs. I find if I vape a new bowl at 400 f or greater, my throat and lungs react to, I believe, a scorching of those cannabinoids that sluff off at lower temps. For this reason I always do at least two-passes or more: one at 365 F, one at 385F or greater. Then again, I'm not in a great hurry to get to the end of the journey.

 

[triskelion]

A lot of times its on the material, drying, curing, handling, etc. not on our mighty.

 

[Truth Seeker]

A lot of times its on the material, drying, curing, handling, etc. not on our mighty.

I've vaped only the best of the very best through the mighty, verified with the growers that there's no pesticides etc.....I don't think it's the materials possibly the stock screen needs replacement to cut out particulates or maybe a coarser grind or maybe this unit just isn't for me.

Got a Volcano 2 days ago and there's a massive difference in not getting the negative side effects which I now think were particulates in my chest and the heat source going direct to mouth, plus I think for some of us a restricted air path is a problem and getting air flow most likely cuts down on the direct heat and just makes my vaping experience a more pleasant one. Some folks here like restricted air flow but for myself it seems to be a problem and something I'll avoid in the future.

Leak that air in there! Cool me down baby!

 

[triskelion]

I respect your opinion sir

 

[invertedisdead]

I don't know what it is about the Mighty or just flower vaping in general but I'm getting throat irritation and way too much dryness/dehydration and I'm trying everything to not make this happen.

Took 2 inhalations of the Mighty at 360 degrees this morning in native mode and I would think it shouldn't be irritating to the throat even without a water piece considering I used such a low temp?

My sinus passages feel a bit irritated but the throat thing and dryness of the throat is something I really can't stand especially considering I need my voice to sing.

I'm buying the best of the best (Volcano classic is on the way) to try to find a way to vape flower comfortably. I really want to make this work and do not want to go back to combustion.

Whatever negatives there are with combustion (plenty I know) I didn't get these types of side effects especially with 1 or 2 hits combustion micro-dosing. I'm getting frustrated with this whole process.

Wish I was as happy about flower vaping as everyone else is here yet it's not quite working for me?

I love the herb and the healthiest way of consumption is first and foremost the most important thing for me. Edibles and tinctures are too heavy for me to try doing daily and I'm not crazy about the edible hangover.

I would be pretty surprised if your issues went away with the Volcano, it probably produces the the driest vapor of any device I've owned.

 

[mitchgo61]

. Some folks here like restricted air flow but for myself it seems to be a problem and something I'll avoid in the future.

I personally wouldn’t describe the Mighty airflow as “restricted”. It’s as airy as portables get IME. I also never get particulates in my mouth or throat no matter how I use it (capsules, native. either screen....)

I think your issues likely supersede the Mighty, whatever is causing them. Good luck in resolving this....hopefully you can figure it out and vape accordingly.

 

[invertedisdead]

I personally wouldn’t describe the Mighty airflow as “restricted”. It’s as airy as portables get IME.

Agreed, only when the screen is clogged up do I feel like it's too restricted, it's pretty open airflow, at least compared to things like Vapcaps and Arizers.

 

[shredder]

I think your issues likely supersede the Mighty, whatever is causing them. Good luck in resolving this....hopefully you can figure it out and vape accordingly.

I agree, and will add cottonmouth, lol. Everyone gets it sooner or later.