The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

nb8475

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@WakeAndVape @vapviking

It appears we have reached the end of my S&B Customer Service Saga.
And it looks like the incessant pestering and calling paid off.
After trying to get me to pay $130 for a replacement, I put up a fight saying that my units issues (excessive cracking, chipping, splitting, etc) should be covered under warranty.
They were not communicative throughout the process, which could have saved me some headache.. BUT...
They ended up sending me a NEW unit with the updated housing.
However there are no accessories are you said WakeandVape (Except for a new CU).


Let this be a lesson to all that if you are persistent and present a good argument with a cool head, you can win over even S&B Oakland.

Also another tip:

I got my distributor (VapeNation) involved. If you ever receive shoddy service from S&B, contact your redistributor (puffitup, etc) and get them on the case. They usually have contacts at S&B and can get things moving for you.


Now to charge this bad boy up and give it a run


Man, I felt kind of cool with my old mighty that had an OG serial number. Now this one is random, MY2...



Edit: I forgot to say, thank you to everyone who offered consult or consolation during this difficult time.
 
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wakeNvape247

Well-Known Member
Thanks for all the replies and warm welcome! Let me apologize for not quoting everyone properly, this is my first time posting in a forum and I haven't quite figured out how everything works yet. I have checked my spam folder and sent an email to the America email address, nada as of yet. JustsVapeItYo, are you saying just check my postal mail box perhaps they sent a return label or something without contacting me? I'll have to go check! If I did just mail to them on my own as WakeandVape mentioned does it just go to their address on the bottom of their page?
Storz & Bickel America Inc.,
1078 60th St. Suite A
Oakland, CA 94608

Thanks again! At least I don't feel so alone and abandoned now lol! Just finished making a batch of Green butter! I say fuck combustion, have a cookie!!! :rockon:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Thanks for all the replies and warm welcome! Let me apologize for not quoting everyone properly, this is my first time posting in a forum and I haven't quite figured out how everything works yet. I have checked my spam folder and sent an email to the America email address, nada as of yet. JustsVapeItYo, are you saying just check my postal mail box perhaps they sent a return label or something without contacting me? I'll have to go check! If I did just mail to them on my own as WakeandVape mentioned does it just go to their address on the bottom of their page?
Storz & Bickel America Inc.,
1078 60th St. Suite A
Oakland, CA 94608

Thanks again! At least I don't feel so alone and abandoned now lol! Just finished making a batch of Green butter! I say fuck combustion, have a cookie!!! :rockon:
No, the mail-in return label would be attached as pdf to an email they send you.
Typically you would get an email very soon after you filled out and submitted the request for RMA form. It would simply acknowledge that they got your request. Then, usually next day, you'd get another email 'approving' your request, with some instruction about the postal form, etc. There must be some tech glitch hanging those up. Last would come either bad news, you're not being covered or the email that says they've sent you a package and you may begin to salivate.

If you choose to send before you hear from them, include a note explaining that you didn't get any emails (though you did fill out the request), if they had been sent. Also explain the problems that the piece is having with housing, error codes, whatever, but don't emphasize battery life issues. If you like your Mighty, tell them so!
Clean it! A magic eraser lightly moistened with iso alcohol can work wonders on a dirty bowl.
You don't have to send the c/u, just the heating unit.
Good luck!
 

wakeNvape247

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@wakeNvape247
Yes that's the address. Confirm that S&B knows you are sending in your unit.

A couple of tips before you send it in to increase likelihood of better service
1) Rubber band around unit
2) Don't mention anything about batterylife
3) Stress the chips/fractures

Thank you, Just curious, why the rubber band?
I haven't mentioned battery in any of my attempted contact with them and won't now.
My main 3 things are broken power button, display no longer shows anything and chips and fractures.

No, the mail-in return label would be attached as pdf to an email they send you.
Typically you would get an email very soon after you filled out and submitted the request for RMA form. It would simply acknowledge that they got your request. Then, usually next day, you'd get another email 'approving' your request, with some instruction about the postal form, etc. There must be some tech glitch hanging those up. Last would come either bad news, you're not being covered or the email that says they've sent you a package and you may begin to salivate.

If you choose to send before you hear from them, include a note explaining that you didn't get any emails (though you did fill out the request), if they had been sent. Also explain the problems that the piece is having with housing, error codes, whatever, but don't emphasize battery life issues. If you like your Mighty, tell them so!
Clean it! A magic eraser lightly moistened with iso alcohol can work wonders on a dirty bowl.
You don't have to send the c/u, just the heating unit.
Good luck!

Thanks, for the walk thru of what is their norm! I did sincerely compliment the Mighty on my email :-)
And YES to the magic eraser, I do this already and love the results!
How often should I send emails till I get a response? I'm normally the quiet one so I don't know if I should send one daily or wait or what. I don't want to be obnoxious I just want to be acknowledged so I can get service.

dirtdragon said: Send an email to the Oakland email address with an explanation of what happened and they will respond. I had the same problem with my ISP blocking responses from the America's address.
Okay, I haven't hit up that email yet, thanks!
 
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WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
Recieved the dosing capsules and other shit today...they are awesome!

Even left the milaana at home...

...missed some aspects of it (milaana) and hate S&B okaland

But they make great products and these new accessories are no exception!

The magazine is numbered for convenience
And one magazine per charge...perfectly thought through!

@nb8475 looks like my original thought was accurate then about the new unit then...dope.

These are from an old unit...no charge.

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Pretty bad as you can see..

@wakeNvape247 don't mention the drop and the screen...unless you want to pay.
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Recieved the dosing capsules and other shit today...they are awesome!


The magazine is numbered for convenience
I hadn't noticed!

I guess denial ain't just a river in Egypt. I should see an optometrist.
I did make it to 65 without glasses, but it seems I've been missing some things!

Glad you like the caps, and that you've started saving already.

Holy shit, they're numbered...
but what to do? write it down? remember where you left off?
Or maybe just go, #1 at one o'clock, #2 at two o'clock...

Ha! Maybe I'll still leave an empty slot and work my way around clockwise...since I can't really see the numbers without a spotlight anyway!

Thanks, @WakeAndVape for noticing.

I'm doing my level best to forget those pictures. Nightmares! :o
 

Eatrocks

Well-Known Member
Recieved the dosing capsules and other shit today...they are awesome!

Even left the milaana at home...

...missed some aspects of it (milaana) and hate S&B okaland

But they make great products and these new accessories are no exception!

The magazine is numbered for convenience
And one magazine per charge...perfectly thought through!

@nb8475 looks like my original thought was accurate then about the new unit then...dope.

These are from an old unit...no charge.

16bxyro.jpg

11m4vbp.jpg


Pretty bad as you can see..

@wakeNvape247 don't mention the drop and the screen...unless you want to pay.


Dirty ass bowl...
 

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
Vietnam? Hardly.

Iraq on the other hand...

That's classified info..but I can say sources in the security community speculate Bin Laden was located because he may have tried to order a mighty.

Should I mail it to you next time it needs a good cleaning?
 

Eatrocks

Well-Known Member
Vietnam? Hardly.

Iraq on the other hand...

That's classified info..but I can say sources in the security community speculate Bin Laden was located because he may have tried to order a mighty.

Should I mail it to you next time it needs a good cleaning?


Hmmm...pretty sure Osama got smoked 3 years before the mighty came on the market...Intel suggests he was in line for preorder
 

verdampersweats

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The caps are more sturdy than i thought, I managed to insert 12 screens into 6 caps one at each end. Going to experiment now finding the best way of screening the vapefiend adapter. So it will be liquid pad v cap lid with screen or just using double screened caps with nothing after it to stop particles. I capped them at both ends incase it fails miserably and i revert to using them with kief only.

But Damm this adapter and the pain it puts you though. And at the end it might break the housing i forgot to ask also the person who had his housing break what the course of action after this? Do you end up with a paperweight or can you get new housing?
 
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cloudsosmoke

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@rodders83

sorry for the downer
..but
i think maybe for double cap idea
bottom lid would get stuck in bottom of bowl and you would have to hook it out

and theres maybe clearance height to check
..before you twist to close if you tried to use double cap with c/u


you can also just take off black plastic part of adapter
and do it hand held holding exposed glass end to the open bowl
it nestles quite well
- but it gets hot in places lol
 

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
I like bringing the mighty to temp before dropping the dosing capsule in...increases convection.

Also the capsules seem like they do well dumped hot to keep vaping a bowl later!
 

verdampersweats

Well-Known Member
@cloudsosmoke No no one cap with a screen for a lid on top of the bowl was the plan or simply just use the caps. I put a screen in each end of the capsules so kief will not fall through in the holder oy a Jyarz because in my opinion you can easily make the mighty a better device by simply using better material. A Vape cannot extract THC that is not in there and by using caps filled entirely with kief or a little drop of oil you would be getting desktop performance and taste from a portable by cheating.


Granted thats not really farr on a desktop using buds on it at home an the extracts on the go but still its a nice common sense approach until portables and desktops become one. I find it hard to see in future how desktops will justify themselves after all whats the most watts used 50w on a Milaana? Portables just need a way of delivering that for a day or so. Not that far off actually if you think about a 50w Mighty that was built entirely from Stainless Steel!
 
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verdampersweats

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Airflows not bad either with two screens if you found the drag hard you could put a bit of bud in just to make the powder open up a have a few gaps. Gonna bath em now in iso and put em in storage i need more screens though i did not know S&B sent you two cap lids per capsule.

Also do you think its bad to re use them? This is why i would love to find someone who can clone them in Stainless Steel for my health and peace of mind. And i will use my finger agility to put in screens with hardly any failure rate. But people with big fingers will need to hire me because it is tricky. If you mess it up you lose a cap and a screen :s
 

Ricchini

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I had a Crafty for about a year and a half. I bought it for 400$ when if first came out. It got stolen out of my glovebox about two months ago and I have missed it ever since.

With the right strains, it blew my mind. My other desktop vape is the VapexHaleEVO and I honestly think I liked the vapor of the Crafty the most. I also used to own a digital Volcano, Buddah etc and I think the vapor coming out of these units is superb.

The design problems are unbelievable, it has to be costing them major dollars.

Just bought a Mighty, and I cannot wait.
 

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
What's general consensus on the capsules? Good product?

I ask, because I love my Mighty. Going to clean the bowl and buy a brand new CU but it is the most desktop hitting portable from my experiences....have a family reunion in July. They aren't bud friendly really...else id bring the EVO for the condo....but I think a jyarz or two each of preloaded capsules may be perfect. I will be able to have a session each morning for 7 days....figure 2 or 3 a night. May just toss them even.

I'm house sitting for a friends brothers wedding. Stopped the enail today to maintain a better smell. The mighty on the porch is great!
 

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
What's general consensus on the capsules? Good product?

I ask, because I love my Mighty. Going to clean the bowl and buy a brand new CU but it is the most desktop hitting portable from my experiences....have a family reunion in July. They aren't bud friendly really...else id bring the EVO for the condo....but I think a jyarz or two each of preloaded capsules may be perfect. I will be able to have a session each morning for 7 days....figure 2 or 3 a night. May just toss them even.

I'm house sitting for a friends brothers wedding. Stopped the enail today to maintain a better smell. The mighty on the porch is great!
Yes I like the capsules alot. They make it really easy to dose effectivley.

The cool thing is after I empty the magazine (8 sessions) the mighty is nearly dead.

So it's kinda like a battery monitor too
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
What's general consensus on the capsules? Good product?

I ask, because I love my Mighty. Going to clean the bowl and buy a brand new CU but it is the most desktop hitting portable from my experiences....have a family reunion in July. They aren't bud friendly really...else id bring the EVO for the condo....but I think a jyarz or two each of preloaded capsules may be perfect. I will be able to have a session each morning for 7 days....figure 2 or 3 a night. May just toss them even.

I'm house sitting for a friends brothers wedding. Stopped the enail today to maintain a better smell. The mighty on the porch is great!
Thumb's up on the capsules for out and about and special situations. And the magazine/holder for them!
Bowl stays nice and clean!
I like multiple magazines with full caps, leave the fill tool and jarz at home!
I put the spent caps back in the magazine without emptying them, deal with it when convenient.
Definitely re-usable, they get easier to open/close after a couple of times.

Edit: On this topic, the magazine lid-as-funnel is a cool feature. I've been filling with a spoon and/or straight from grinder but just today filled a batch with the funnel again. Less mess, less handling of caps (big fingers!). Set an empty cap on table, put funnel on top -now you can hold the funnel instead of the cap, fill with small spoon and tamp with fingertip. Lift off funnel and there sits the capsule ready to place lid on. Smooth process, of course it's not the only way, etc., but it is one of those little things about S&B design that actually is a pleasure to use.
 
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Michel

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Hello mighty fellows, long time no see! Some of the first owners might remember me... Just wanted to step by and say mighty is on his 4th RMA soon. I contacted S&B and asked for a reset of the warranty period which was clearly denied. Since I'm not trusting mighty anymore to survive more than 1/2 a year and the warranty will expire soon, I asked my reseller for a refund then. I warned S&B Germany I'll be asking for a refund if they won't reset the warranty period but they didn't really care but proposed me an upgrade for a volcano digit for small money.

I'm actually arguing with the reseller who wants me to resolve the issue with S&B directly what won't going to happen.

I tried to be nice and informed them about the EU (or German?) consumer laws. If a device fails more than 3 times in the warranty period you can ask for a complete refund and get your money back; so actually only asking for a prolonged warranty period was quite nice from my part. I guess now I want my money back and I'll see if I go for the grasshopper, another mighty or give up on the whole mobile-vape-battery-pita and go completely flame-powered in the future... No electronics to fail, complete temperature range, fast heat up and instant refilling of the ligthers. And thankfully I havent sold the MV yet which never left me down since Hermes worked out the faulty heaters. It kept me very well medicated in combination with the vapman those days without the mighty (crafty battery is to weak already).

I should add I only warranted devices if they we're completely unusable. I never sent a S&B portable back if I still could pull clouds from it. I have a replacement crafty where vibration died after 5h and I'm on already 102h now. If I would persist on a new device each time the old one failed I would have gone through 6 or even more mighty's and a few crafty's, too. Some combusting friends are calling them disposable vaporizers now since even the included brush is exceeding mighty's lifetime...
 
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