The Magic-Flight Box

[willieR]

Got it. I have to say, the hits have never been so clean and tasty as with this little wooden fella

 

[JDSupreme]

Taste is def the best out of any vape ive tried. And I also agree with Max about getting bigger (and tastier) hits from full trenches opposed to small ones

 

[tompumped]

has anyone pulled a small piece of wire through the draw hole on their box. The other week I pulled a very small gauge wire through. It had some black shit on it that wiped off, but it was silver about an inch maybe slightly longer. It was funny because I have two boxes and on that one I could see something in front of the light. I just figured it was normal, until I pulled a fucking piece of metal through.

Anyway I don't care too much about the harmless incident it got caught on my tongue, thankfully. I know some people would've gotten very upset, but I was like o well, it could've only lodged itself in my throat.

I sent an email to magic flight about it, but ten minutes earlier I sent them an email about a warranty issue, and I just figured they missed it. They responded to the first one, but not the second.

Their customer service is great. My screen seperated as others have reported and they are in the process of sending me a new box. Now I will brush softer.

 

[tompumped]

Taste is def the best out of any vape ive tried. And I also agree with Max about getting bigger (and tastier) hits from full trenches opposed to small ones

Taste is amazing. I agree on the full trenches too.

I do however disagree with the need for the pa. My powerex 2700s will give me just as chalky of a hit if that's what you want. Me personally I don't like it because my asthma, not saying I can't handle it.

With that said I will still be purchasing a pa!

 

[sydnee]

A couple of questions about batteries:

1) For those of you buying better batteries for the box. what's your motivation for doing so? Do the replacement batteries give you bigger hits? Longer use? Something else?

2) This may sound silly, but how do you get the labels and glue off of a labeled battery? I read that the batteries used in the box must be label-free.

Thanks in advance!

 

[aesthyrian]

1.) The batteries that are sent with the MFLB are rated at 2400mAh, while the powerex batteries many including myself like are rated at 2700mAh, resulting in a longer battery life and some stronger hits at the beginning. The downside is that the Powerex 2700's are HSD batteries meaning they will lose more of their charge overtime while not being used.

2.) I have peeled Eneloops, Energizers, and Powerex's and have never had to deal with any glue thankfully. I just used a razor blade and cut around the batteries about half way down so I still had the end of the label to use to identify my batteries.

 

[pakalolo]

2) This may sound silly, but how do you get the labels and glue off of a labeled battery? I read that the batteries used in the box must be label-free.

http://www.vaporpedia.com/wiki/Magi...should_I_prepare_and_care_for_my_batteries.3F

 

[Elluzion]

What do you mean by "break in"? Would I need to break in my new 2700 powerex batteries? Wouldn't I just charge them.

If you just charge them you will not get the most out of them. New batteries work best after a forming charge. Your C-9000 has a break-in mode for new batteries, a refresh mode for batteries that are starting to deteriorate, and a charging mode. Use them wisely.

Okay thanks! I am currently just trying to charge my 2400's but the charge setting wont let me set the MaH above 2000? why not??? I have them set on 2000MaH charge right now

 

[pakalolo]

Okay thanks! I am currently just trying to charge my 2400's but the charge setting wont let me set the MaH above 2000? why not??? I have them set on 2000MaH charge right now

That isn't the capacity, that's the charging rate. 2000 for 2400 mAH batteries means you are charging at .83c which is as fast as that charger will charge them. As your manual explains, charging at rates too high or too low can be problematic. I usually charge at .5c. It takes a little longer but it's easier on the batteries.

When the charge is finished the displayed mAH isn't the capacity either, it is how much charge the battery took. The only way to determine the real capacity is to charge the battery, then completely discharge it. That is what the refresh and analyze mode does. The displayed number at the end of an R&A cycle is the actual capacity.

 

[al bundy]

ok got my box today
i got it from allstarwhlsales on ebay quick emails and answered any question.
here's what i got

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120667925883&ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT
paid $92.00 total on tuesday got it today priority mail.

every thing that comes with the box PLUS 2 extra synergy batteries they say 2600mah
I peeled the label off easy.and a foot long whip.and a plastic grinder
only drawback is the charger is a 2 batt charger not a four.

how long for the 2600 to charge?

must be the newest box because no copper coil any more.
serial number is there. now i only used the batts that came with the box. put em in charger light turned green and off i went.
i will say this is a cool little device. got a nice vapor from it.
waiting on the 2600s to finish charging.

Im ordering the PA and car adapter. i could see why, it would put a much more
STEADY current than any battery would.so a thicker vape.

going to read back on what battery is the strongest and get 2

best thing is no smoke .
when you smoke and exhale through a white cloth it turns brown and yellow with this vapor the cloth stays white my lungs will be happy.
dam smoking weed for 30 years i wish i knew about vaporizers.
i still have to play with this thing but so far an easy 8.5


And Magic Flight or whoever has the PA and a Volt meter.
how many volts does it put out on the highest setting?

still a great little device. magic flight should make a Box and PA combo when theyre ready.

magic flight must have gotten good grades in shop class.

 

[Elluzion]

Okay thanks! I am currently just trying to charge my 2400's but the charge setting wont let me set the MaH above 2000? why not??? I have them set on 2000MaH charge right now

That isn't the capacity, that's the charging rate. 2000 for 2400 mAH batteries means you are charging at .83c which is as fast as that charger will charge them. As your manual explains, charging at rates too high or too low can be problematic. I usually charge at .5c. It takes a little longer but it's easier on the batteries.

When the charge is finished the displayed mAH isn't the capacity either, it is how much charge the battery took. The only way to determine the real capacity is to charge the battery, then completely discharge it. That is what the refresh and analyze mode does. The displayed number at the end of an R&A cycle is the actual capacity.

Shit, I didn't realize this. I read the manual but for some reason I was still confused with that part. Thanks for the heads up. I will have to definitely figure this thing out, luckily my batteries were already charged so it didn't even really do anything. ha. PHEW!

 

[Elluzion]

Okay thanks! I am currently just trying to charge my 2400's but the charge setting wont let me set the MaH above 2000? why not??? I have them set on 2000MaH charge right now

That isn't the capacity, that's the charging rate. 2000 for 2400 mAH batteries means you are charging at .83c which is as fast as that charger will charge them. As your manual explains, charging at rates too high or too low can be problematic. I usually charge at .5c. It takes a little longer but it's easier on the batteries.

When the charge is finished the displayed mAH isn't the capacity either, it is how much charge the battery took. The only way to determine the real capacity is to charge the battery, then completely discharge it. That is what the refresh and analyze mode does. The displayed number at the end of an R&A cycle is the actual capacity.

Question: If I need a quick charge, what would be an appropriate setting? (in terms of C), and for the best charge in terms of battery longevity, etc. would you recommend (.5C?) the manual says don't exceed 1.0C, so I feel like .83C wouldn't be horrible.. let me know YOUR personal opinion,

and when I use the refresh and analyze mode (to refresh my poor batteries), should i use a .1 C, and what about the discharge rate (also part of the analyze mode),? I just want to make sure I am using the best method possible for bringing old batteries back to life

 

[fffffut]

I bought my MFLB through puffitup.com because they threw in a pretty killer looking 4 piece grinder, but I'm afraid it's still not grinding the pieces small enough. Is there a specific grinder or technique for getting the particles small enough? Also, what should the size of the vaping particles be?

i had the same grinder for awhile
i noticed the holes to the other compartment were really big, so i would keep grinding it for a long time while holding the grinder upside down
another factor is the consistency of what youre grinding. you can grind some stuff into a kief-like powder but other stuff is only going to come apart a little bit
in this case, you can crush the bud after hitting it a few times and drying it out

 

[Murph]

I just placed my order

 

[Gunky]

Elluzion, there are so many things you can do with that charger, but here is what I do. New batteries get the formatting charge, which takes a long time. After that is done, I use batteries and then just put them in the charger and don't press anything. The default is 'charge' and it seems to use a reasonable rate. I leave the batteries in for a while after the 'done' sign appears because that trickle charges the last little bit.

 

[reeflex]

I went ahead and placed an order at puffitup.com


For those considering one, they have the newest version of the MFLB (the one with maple wood), and it comes with a 4-pc grinder.


Also I found this 1-hour charger in my room: http://www1.epinions.com/Rayovac_PS4b/display_~latest_prices#

Hope it plays along nicely with the batteries, cause 1-hr seems perfect for my needs for now. Need to save for a 15-charger and batteries...

 

[steffen4567]

Hey just a quick question. Sorry if it was answered earlier. But I just received my warranty box and mailed my busted one in. Will they notify me once it arrives?

 

[pakalolo]

Question: If I need a quick charge, what would be an appropriate setting? (in terms of C), and for the best charge in terms of battery longevity, etc. would you recommend (.5C?) the manual says don't exceed 1.0C, so I feel like .83C wouldn't be horrible.. let me know YOUR personal opinion,

and when I use the refresh and analyze mode (to refresh my poor batteries), should i use a .1 C, and what about the discharge rate (also part of the analyze mode),? I just want to make sure I am using the best method possible for bringing old batteries back to life

.83c is the quickest that the C-9000 will charge 2400 mAH batteries. Since we are talking about the LB and therefore batteries should always be at least 2000 mAH, the highest charge setting (2000) is always acceptable and of course, is always the fastest. If you want a real quick charge (15 min) then you need a different charger.

As for my opinion, I always use around .5c so 1200 for the 2400s and 1300 for the 2700s. You could go as low as 800 for the 2400s (.333c) but I don't consider the difference that would make to longevity to be important. That's not to say it isn't; I don't honestly know. For refresh and analyze I use the same rate that I use for charging, and for discharge rate I use .25c (600 for 2400s, 700 for 2700s). I remember reading that recommendation somewhere, probably on candlepowerforums.com.

 

[willieR]

Great post paka. Should be a sticky.

 

[upriver]

I bought 2700s because I first bought "2900s" from an online shop not realizing they were junk. So while I was happy with the supplied batteries (yet needed more), I figured I would buy the right ones this time and made sure I was getting Powerex 2700s. This was so I would have the included batteries for shelf life, and then a choice of some harder-hitting but less storage-friendly options.

My stock batteries stopped hitting "hot" enough so I went for the c9000, and haven't looked back. Its great. Similar to Pakalo, I use the default 1000 charge setting for the 2400s, and bump it up to 1300 for the 2700s. 1000 is easier since there are no additional button pushes, but bumping it up to 2300 is such a habit now that its pretty effortless.

I also run the break-in mode on new batteries, and charge-refresh on any that seem suspiciously cool. Its probably overly paranoid, but I do not like buying (and disposing of) more and more batteries, so I try to get all I can out of these.

It is a shame that the batteries and a bit of an expense and a hassle, but I don't fault MFLB for the state of technology. Its still amazing that this thing works at all. Really, my whole adolescence through college experience would have been worlds different (and better) if the MFLB and current battery technology existed back then.

 

[Elluzion]

Question: If I need a quick charge, what would be an appropriate setting? (in terms of C), and for the best charge in terms of battery longevity, etc. would you recommend (.5C?) the manual says don't exceed 1.0C, so I feel like .83C wouldn't be horrible.. let me know YOUR personal opinion,

and when I use the refresh and analyze mode (to refresh my poor batteries), should i use a .1 C, and what about the discharge rate (also part of the analyze mode),? I just want to make sure I am using the best method possible for bringing old batteries back to life

.83c is the quickest that the C-9000 will charge 2400 mAH batteries. Since we are talking about the LB and therefore batteries should always be at least 2000 mAH, the highest charge setting (2000) is always acceptable and of course, is always the fastest. If you want a real quick charge (15 min) then you need a different charger.

As for my opinion, I always use around .5c so 1200 for the 2400s and 1300 for the 2700s. You could go as low as 800 for the 2400s (.333c) but I don't consider the difference that would make to longevity to be important. That's not to say it isn't; I don't honestly know. For refresh and analyze I use the same rate that I use for charging, and for discharge rate I use .25c (600 for 2400s, 700 for 2700s). I remember reading that recommendation somewhere, probably on candlepowerforums.com.

Thank you for the useful information and recommendations!! I've got my old bats on the C-9000 right now refreshing and analyzing for the first time at (1200 MA charge 600 MA discharge).

Is this charger like the stock mflb charger in the fact that leaving the batteries (finished charging) on the charger for a while isn't good for the bats? It doesn't really say anything about this in the manual, but maybe its just common sense ha.

 

[pinoy]

Hey just a quick question. Sorry if it was answered earlier. But I just received my warranty box and mailed my busted one in. Will they notify me once it arrives?

When I sent back my mflb I didn't get an email from them.

 

[lwien]

Is this charger like the stock mflb charger in the fact that leaving the batteries (finished charging) on the charger for a while isn't good for the bats? It doesn't really say anything about this in the manual, but maybe its just common sense ha.

The C9000 terminates a bit early so it's recommended to leave your batts in for an additional 2 hours for a top off charge, but after that, it's best to take them out. A day or two shouldn't hurt with standard batts, but with LSD's, I'd take them out immediately after the 2 hour top-off. For those using the LaCrosse charger, there is no need for the top off charge so take them out as soon as the charger indicates 'full'.

 

[Elluzion]

Is this charger like the stock mflb charger in the fact that leaving the batteries (finished charging) on the charger for a while isn't good for the bats? It doesn't really say anything about this in the manual, but maybe its just common sense ha.

The C9000 terminates a bit early so it's recommended to leave your batts in for an additional 2 hours for a top off charge, but after that, it's best to take them out. A day or two shouldn't hurt with standard batts, but with LSD's, I'd take them out immediately after the 2 hour top-off. For those using the LaCrosse charger, there is no need for the top off charge so take them out as soon as the charger indicates 'full'.

Okay thanks. My batteries don't even get hot in this new charger! my old charger would rip my bats to shred.


So after my analyze and refresh battery thing (took about half a day), my batteries said the charging capacity was at about 2200 MAH,, these are originally 2400's, was the restore successful? could it have been more? (in should I do it again?)

 

[happy.feet]

I have a Sanyo Ni-HM "super quick charger", model number: NC-MQH03U
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=201416&page=1

Is this an appropriate charger for Powerex 2700's?

Thanks!