The Magic-Flight Box
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deadheadbill
I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...
I like how the beta testers come out of the woodwork now. I understand confidentiality agreements, but to come on here and flat out state that you are not a beta tester and know nothing about said product is a little shitty in my mind.
Keeping silent is one thing, but to blatantly lie rubs me the wrong way. Sorry dudes.
On a more upbeat note. My MFLB got a full workout at the family Christmas party yesterday. Paid for itself in one day.
Keeping silent is one thing, but to blatantly lie rubs me the wrong way. Sorry dudes.
On a more upbeat note. My MFLB got a full workout at the family Christmas party yesterday. Paid for itself in one day.
I like how the beta testers come out of the woodwork now. I understand confidentiality agreements, but to come on here and flat out state that you are not a beta tester and know nothing about said product is a little shitty in my mind.
Keeping silent is one thing, but to blatantly lie rubs me the wrong way. Sorry dudes.
On a more upbeat note. My MFLB got a full workout at the family Christmas party yesterday. Paid for itself in one day.
I think you're referring to @Vicki's comment when the first pictures were posted. At the time it was not obvious that this was the release version of the Kava version that we tested. She did not lie, she just didn't realize what it was. I know this because I sent her a PM pointing out the possibility, which she said had not occurred to her.
Calling another member a liar, even indirectly, is against the rules. In this case it was obviously ill-advised since you did not have all the facts. Please be more careful how you phrase things.
Vitolo
Vaporist
I applaud all BETA testers for sticking with their NDA (non disclosure agreement given by Magic Flight), and for STILL coming in here and posting as though "today were no different/business as usual"
Their absence in topic, and attempting to avoid topic partially would have stuck out like a sore thumb. Best thing to do is stay in the thread and participate!
JOB WELL DONE!
Most did not know the Black Box would be a release version, and thought the box would look like the standard MFLB box.
Their absence in topic, and attempting to avoid topic partially would have stuck out like a sore thumb. Best thing to do is stay in the thread and participate!
JOB WELL DONE!
Most did not know the Black Box would be a release version, and thought the box would look like the standard MFLB box.
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deadheadbill
I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...
Nope, was not calling Vicki out. Would not do that. There were multiple people who did the same. Just putting my thoughts out there. If I broke the rules, I apologize.
Edit: I specifically apologize to @Vicki if you thought I was calling you out.
Double edit: I will never post anything to intentionally hurt another person. I do sate my mind sometimes when maybe I shouldn't however.
Edit: I specifically apologize to @Vicki if you thought I was calling you out.
Double edit: I will never post anything to intentionally hurt another person. I do sate my mind sometimes when maybe I shouldn't however.
Send me a PM pointing out the posts, please.
Edited to add: This should end this discussion in this thread.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I'm so sorry if my original post regarding the new concentrate box was misunderstood. That was not my intention! I honest to god did not know that this new Maud Dib box was the final version of the Kava box that I tested. I need to pull it out and take a picture of it so people can see how different they look. I'm so sorry!!
Plus, I was an idiot, and thought it was only for Kava. I hated the Kava so much, that I finished the beta testing, and haven't touched it since.
I'm gonna go take a picture now!!
Plus, I was an idiot, and thought it was only for Kava. I hated the Kava so much, that I finished the beta testing, and haven't touched it since.
I'm gonna go take a picture now!!
I'm so sorry if my original post regarding the new concentrate box was misunderstood. That was not my intention! I honest to god did not know that this new Maud Dib box was the final version of the Kava box that I tested. I need to pull it out and take a picture of it so people can see how different they look. I'm so sorry!!
Plus, I was an idiot, and thought it was only for Kava. I hated the Kava so much, that I finished the beta testing, and haven't touched it since.
I'm gonna go take a picture now!!
To be clear, and since @OF seemed to think some of us jumped the gun using it for concentrates other than Kava, I didn't try anything else in it either until it was confirmed that the MD was released.
I kind of liked the Kava once I got used to the odd flavour. It had a mild but noticeable pleasant effect on me.
Here is a picture of my Kava beta test box. As you can see, it looks nothing like the final version, and it quite primitive. There isn't even a light in this box.
There's no light?
That explains why mine doesn't work.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
There's no light?
That explains why mine doesn't work.
LOL, yeah. I couldn't figure that out for a while either. This is really a bare bones box! Maybe the final version has a light. Or, maybe they felt the light was unnecessary?
I just used my PA 2.0 to burn off the Kava. but I can still smell it.
Gonna load some wax in it here in a minute and see how that goes, and tastes!
LOL, yeah. I couldn't figure that out for a while either. This is really a bare bones box! Maybe the final version has a light. Or, maybe they felt the light was unnecessary?
I just used my PA 2.0 to burn off the Kava. but I can still smell it.
Gonna load some wax in it here in a minute and see how that goes, and tastes!
I bet there's no light, since that was an annoying point of failure. I think having the tray turn red hot in 3 seconds is probably clue enough that it's working.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
You're probably right. I still trip out how red hot this thing gets with just a battery!
I just loaded up some wax, and took a big hit. Definitely still some Kava in that tray. I am still coughing stuff up, but I expect that as Kava is an expectorant.
Besides the nasty Kava, it was a great hit!
twigs
Pay no mind to those voices in my head
With all the attention on the NEW LB, my question may seem off-topic. Sorry, but I must ask anyway:
I've been hitting the (standard) LB for about two months now. I don't know if I've perfected the technique, but it's working for me. My question is about the herbs in the trench after the first hit. They seem to "clump" up into a little football, requiring a very hard shake, or even a poke to un-clump. Is this normal or is it a sign that my herbs are not completely dry???
I've been hitting the (standard) LB for about two months now. I don't know if I've perfected the technique, but it's working for me. My question is about the herbs in the trench after the first hit. They seem to "clump" up into a little football, requiring a very hard shake, or even a poke to un-clump. Is this normal or is it a sign that my herbs are not completely dry???
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
I actually Liked the Kava, Don't have access to oils myself so I to thought the box was just for the Kava kava. Although I could see right away using oil in this box was possible , it doesn't appear to be finished nor does it seem like it would hold up to much use. I really paid attention to the Kava and not the box per the instructions.
@twigs it sounds to me like your herbs need to be dried and ground finer and welcome to FC.
Your not off topic we are here to discuss everything Magic Flight.
@twigs it sounds to me like your herbs need to be dried and ground finer and welcome to FC.
Your not off topic we are here to discuss everything Magic Flight.
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Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Edit: I specifically apologize to @Vicki if you thought I was calling you out.
@deadheadbill it's ok. I honestly didn't mean to mislead anyone. I'm really sorry if anyone thought that.
That means you've got quality material. The trichomes melt together. You can use this to your advantage by tapping the LB carefully and getting it to flip over. Of course, poking it and breaking it up is another alternative.
OF
Well-Known Member
Welcome to the Forum, glad you're enjoying your LB.
In general, clumping comes from too much moisture in the goods going it. This also contributes extra fouling and slows the vape process down by robbing heat. You're on the right track I think. Try a little more drying on some (I find a quick grind speeds this up), followed by a second fine grind and see if that effects the results.
My 'take' (could well be off) is the steam melts trichomes and surface resins and kind of glues stuff in place. For the box to work well the goods have to flow freely over the screen.
I got the same thing. Notice the box color? Doesn't look much like the new unit except the shape of the new trench? Not only is there no light, but there's also no serial number (it's been removed from mine), to me this is clearly a special test rig but it was sent with the Kava extract a custom dispenser (very small dabs needed) and the extract. And detailed instructions for testing the Kava.....not the box. We were asked to report on the Kava, not the box. And of course there's the NDA in play.
So yes, I'm kind of old fashioned about things like this, I viewed the test confidential and the gear as not belonging to me until the test was declared over. I don't consider it mine to sell, loan out or use for other purposes until then. No problems with others who see their responsibilities differently, just explaining why I never tried oil in a unit I don't still consider mine.
I definitely make every effort to be honest with folks and present information as best I know it. I don't lie. I think I share these traits with others invited to be Beta Testers......in fact I think honesty is a key point here. If anyone ever doubts my honesty or sincerity (or wants to ask why......), please feel free to PM me. Folks do with 'what's the real story you're not telling the other guys....' posts from time to time, no problem.
I want folks to have confidence in what I and 'the usual suspects' say, as I believe most do.
Regards and Merry Christmas to all.
OF
I was surprised when @Buildozer had posted that video of the concentrate box, but instead of assuming that he was breaking some NDA and/or letting the proverbial cat out of the bag, I sent him a PM asking if he had cleared it with MF. I should've known better as I know him pretty well and he wouldn't do something so blatant without approval.
I learned that he not only had approval (encouragement?) from someone at MF, but at least three people at MF (including the CEO and Sales Director). He also got the OK to discuss the Kava Terra testing. Even with this information, I decided that I would not post my walnut box until MF made some type of official announcement, which is exactly what I did.
Confidentiality ends when both parties agree that it's ok. 'Nuff said.
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OF
Well-Known Member
I learned that he no only had approval (encouragement?) from someone at MF, but at least three people at MF (including the CEO and Sales Director). He also got the OK to discuss the Kava Terra testing. Even with this information, I decided that I would not post my walnut box until MF made some type of official announcement, which is exactly what I did.
Confidentiality ends when both parties agree that it's ok. 'Nuff said.
Well played, Stu. I'd even go a step further, where it ends depends on the original agreement. I can see situations were a party is released from responsibility without agreeing as well as others where the original conditions have been satisfied (say for instance an agreed to date is reached?), but one side wants to keep the secret. In such cases 'hey, wait a minute we want to change the rules.....' doesn't matter IMO, a deal's a deal.
I too assumed BD was wearing a white hat, I just thought he was taking about another product....... Maybe there's more to that Kava stuff than I thought?
Yes, simply put is concentrating the THC bearing material, removing the non active stuff if you will. From simply picking the most potent part of the buds on through screening for kief, or Trichomes (dry or wet) through chemical solvent type extractions (letting alcohols, liquid gasses or other solvents dissolve the good stuff out of 'the compost'). THC might go from 15% or so to maybe 80% as improved steps are taken, price goes up too.
OF
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
In this case people are talking about Hash Oils and Waxes But also Kief and pressed kief (or old school hashish). In a perfect world I would live somewhere that I had access to such But I do LOVE my Buds.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
Either way works fine so you can let it air dry. While you air dry the bulk you could dry what your vaping to start with in the trench.
But if you can grind with the Finishing grinder most likely its dry enough. I would think its more what pakalolo said and you just have very kind sticky sweet Buds that need more shaking and stirring.
More then likely the Best and only "Trouble" you'll have with your Launch Box.
But if you can grind with the Finishing grinder most likely its dry enough. I would think its more what pakalolo said and you just have very kind sticky sweet Buds that need more shaking and stirring.
More then likely the Best and only "Trouble" you'll have with your Launch Box.
