nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
I just went and tried both again to refresh the taste in my mind; the maple smells and tastes "green" to me, something like your standard 2x4? On the other hand the walnut taste and smell is more "earthy", and definitely lighter and harder to pick out.

For me, the difference is enough that I won't be buying any vapes made out of maple in the future.
 
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let the rhythm be your guiding light
I just went and tried both again to refresh the taste in my mind; the maple smells and tastes "green" to me, something like your standard 2x4? On the other hand the walnut taste and smell is more "earthy", and definitely lighter and harder to pick out.

hmmm, you must have some pretty acute tastebuds ;)

seriously, any alteration in flavor/taste would no doubt bum me out :uhoh:

all is g o o d here :tup:
 

nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
hmmm, you must have some pretty acute tastebuds ;)
That does seem to be the case, judging by the majority of opinions that I've read on here. For most the difference is doubtfully enough to make it worth worrying about not liking a maple box. But, solely for anyone out there who might consider themselves "supertasters" or what have you, I think my experience is worth considering! For those people, I think the $25 premium on the walnut is definitely worth it. I'd love to try cherry so that I could offer an opinion there too.
 

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
I just went and tried both again to refresh the taste in my mind; the maple smells and tastes "green" to me, something like your standard 2x4? On the other hand the walnut taste and smell is more "earthy", and definitely lighter and harder to pick out.

The taste difference between all three LB's is very subtle. I actually prefer the cherry. Then my next favorite is walnut, followed by maple. When they first introduced the exotic LB's, I really wanted them all, for aesthetic purposes only. I didn't realize there was an actual taste difference until I tried them all.
 

HighlyEducatedScholar

Student of Vapor
I own a Cera, I still plan on buying a tray for my MFLB. I'll bet I use it more. Not sure about the recommended whip though, I like my glass mouthpiece just fine...

i wouldn't recommend using just the glass stem with the concentrate tray but that's me. i've found the vapor from the concentrate tray way too harsh to use with only a stem. i've also been exclusively vaporizing for about 2-3 years so i'm gotten much more sensitive to heat and dryness than when i had first started out. a whip would certainly cool the vapor down better than the stem but the best results are definitely with a WPA/WPW and a water piece. much smooooooother.
 

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
i wouldn't recommend using just the glass stem with the concentrate tray but that's me. i've found the vapor from the concentrate tray way too harsh to use with only a stem. i've also been exclusively vaporizing for about 2-3 years so i'm gotten much more sensitive to heat and dryness than when i had first started out. a whip would certainly cool the vapor down better than the stem but the best results are definitely with a WPA/WPW and a water piece. much smooooooother.

I am able to use the concentrate tray with a long cherry stem with no problems at all.
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
You can buy different length stems?
Ed's TnT is a shop run by a cool dude that makes custom stems for some other vapes. I'm sure he could hook you up with something special if you ask nice :) Other than that, there's a "shorty" stem that isn't in production anymore but you get one with the water pipe adapter (you get two, but one is inside of the GonG joint, the other at the business end of the whip.)
 

Musicslv

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Ok, here's one for the masses. Can you combust the box when cleaning it? I swabbed out my walnut mflb and when I began using my pa to dry it (ten seconds on, ten seconds off), I could swear I smelled wood smoke... yes? no?
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I'm assuming by "combust" you mean dry-firing it? Like with nothing inside but still burning it? Nah, that's fine provided you don't do it for extended periods of time. Really the only thing you should be "swabbing out" or cleaning is the screen, more specifically the actual trench and not the "wing tips" outside of the rails, reason being that the heat is pretty much only generated on the walls of the trench. I've had flecks of bud that don't vaporize because they're sitting outside of the trench. The most I'll do nowadays is just making sure that I'm shaking it every hit so nothing "sticks" to the trench. Usually by the time I'm done vaping it, it's so dry that it dumps out cleanly. I might brush it every other day very quickly, just to get any debris cleared, but I haven't used ISO to clean the trench in weeks and weeks now. It's pretty self-cleaning by design, so maybe what you're smelling is the little bits of stuff that are stuck in the crevices? The smell is normal as far as vaping goodies at really high temps (what you're doing essentially), so it's not really a problem. Doing that to clear any ISO is fine, I usually went for a few 15 second bursts and then left it out with the lid opened to let any remaining ISO evaporate. I don't recommend using any sort of liquid on the wooden part of the Box, though. Use a slightly damp tissue to wipe away the oils, and then give it a pass to dry it up. Add a layer of butcher block oil if you want, IIRC they come treated but you can take it further if you want/know what you're doing. The only place I've noticed needs cleaning on mine is around the ring of the trench. My old Box needed more cleaning on the mouthpiece area because I used it native a lot. Now I've turned to running it through water so Betty (she's Box #2, but vape #1 in my life :tup:) is hooked up to the glass stem to my mini inline :nod:
 

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I'm assuming by "combust" you mean dry-firing it? Like with nothing inside but still burning it? Nah, that's fine provided you don't do it for extended periods of time. Really the only thing you should be "swabbing out" or cleaning is the screen, more specifically the actual trench and not the "wing tips" outside of the rails, reason being that the heat is pretty much only generated on the walls of the trench. I've had flecks of bud that don't vaporize because they're sitting outside of the trench. The most I'll do nowadays is just making sure that I'm shaking it every hit so nothing "sticks" to the trench. Usually by the time I'm done vaping it, it's so dry that it dumps out cleanly. I might brush it every other day very quickly, just to get any debris cleared, but I haven't used ISO to clean the trench in weeks and weeks now. It's pretty self-cleaning by design, so maybe what you're smelling is the little bits of stuff that are stuck in the crevices? The smell is normal as far as vaping goodies at really high temps (what you're doing essentially), so it's not really a problem. Doing that to clear any ISO is fine, I usually went for a few 15 second bursts and then left it out with the lid opened to let any remaining ISO evaporate. I don't recommend using any sort of liquid on the wooden part of the Box, though. Use a slightly damp tissue to wipe away the oils, and then give it a pass to dry it up. Add a layer of butcher block oil if you want, IIRC they come treated but you can take it further if you want/know what you're doing. The only place I've noticed needs cleaning on mine is around the ring of the trench. My old Box needed more cleaning on the mouthpiece area because I used it native a lot. Now I've turned to running it through water so Betty (she's Box #1, but vape #1 in my life :tup:) is hooked up to the glass stem to my mini inline :nod:
Thank's for the info, yeah I was "dry-fireing" it after cleaning with a bit of ISO. I appreciate knowing that the power source only heats the actual trench. I do find I only need to ISO clean it every couple of weeks, but I do sweep it out every time if I'm near a brush...
 
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received my warranty box today:) and as the great guys at magic flight made a mistake and originally forgot to send it out, I also received a nano grinder and power supply:)
so a big thanks to the magic flight crew. your customer service really stands out
 

pastoral

let the rhythm be your guiding light
I'm assuming by "combust" you mean dry-firing it? Like with nothing inside but still burning it? Nah, that's fine provided you don't do it for extended periods of time. Really the only thing you should be "swabbing out" or cleaning is the screen, more specifically the actual trench and not the "wing tips" outside of the rails, reason being that the heat is pretty much only generated on the walls of the trench. I've had flecks of bud that don't vaporize because they're sitting outside of the trench. The most I'll do nowadays is just making sure that I'm shaking it every hit so nothing "sticks" to the trench. Usually by the time I'm done vaping it, it's so dry that it dumps out cleanly. I might brush it every other day very quickly, just to get any debris cleared, but I haven't used ISO to clean the trench in weeks and weeks now. It's pretty self-cleaning by design, so maybe what you're smelling is the little bits of stuff that are stuck in the crevices? The smell is normal as far as vaping goodies at really high temps (what you're doing essentially), so it's not really a problem. Doing that to clear any ISO is fine, I usually went for a few 15 second bursts and then left it out with the lid opened to let any remaining ISO evaporate. I don't recommend using any sort of liquid on the wooden part of the Box, though. Use a slightly damp tissue to wipe away the oils, and then give it a pass to dry it up. Add a layer of butcher block oil if you want, IIRC they come treated but you can take it further if you want/know what you're doing. The only place I've noticed needs cleaning on mine is around the ring of the trench. My old Box needed more cleaning on the mouthpiece area because I used it native a lot. Now I've turned to running it through water so Betty (she's Box #2, but vape #1 in my life :tup:) is hooked up to the glass stem to my mini inline :nod:

wanted to chime in and concur w/Q regarding cleaning the trench, it's exactly the method used around here :) lightly swabbing with 90% iso with very little pressure works great -- and to be sure the iso is totally evaporated, simply engage battery for 4-5seconds and pooof, all clean and ready for use :tup: peaceful vibes all around
 

b0

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Just received my WPW, next one will be the finishing grinder and I will have all the maple kit :rockon:
It came with a tube of "Silicone Dielectric Compound" is this to take care of the wood in it?
 
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Just received my WPW, next one will be the finishing grinder and I will have all the maple kit :rockon:
It came with a tube of "Silicone Dielectric Compound" is this to take care of the wood in it?

No, definitely don't put it on the wood. A tiny bit will help seal the GonG connections and keep them from jamming on......hopefully.

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No, definitely don't put it on the wood. A tiny bit will help seal the GonG connections and keep them from jamming on......hopefully.

OF

Thanks OF, I'm not sure for what it is then. Maybe it would be better if I send an e-mail to MFLB and ask them about it.
 
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Thanks OF, I'm not sure for what it is then. Maybe it would be better if I send an e-mail to MFLB and ask them about it.

You're welcome. I thought I just told you what it's for? "A tiny bit will help seal the GonG connections and keep them from jamming on......hopefully."? The intent is to put a little bit on the GonG connections, they've said as much I recall, but by all means contact them if you're not happy with that advice.

Or check out http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-magic-flight-box.750/page-758#post-311124

Just don't put it on the wood, the stuff basically doesn't come off again and will goof up any normal oil or wax you later put on the wood I'll bet?

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justcametomind

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To anyone who got the Oil Tray with regular purchase (no beta testing):
How is it big?
Usually at MF they put everything on nice tin boxes, but Vapornation asks 17,99$ and something like 35$ for shipping it to Europe!!
 
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Cloudy...
You're welcome. I thought I just told you what it's for? "A tiny bit will help seal the GonG connections and keep them from jamming on......hopefully."? The intent is to put a little bit on the GonG connections, they've said as much I recall, but by all means contact them if you're not happy with that advice.

Or check out http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-magic-flight-box.750/page-758#post-311124

Just don't put it on the wood, the stuff basically doesn't come off again and will goof up any normal oil or wax you later put on the wood I'll bet?

OF

My mistake, I thought you where just guessing. Thanks OF!
 
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