The Magic-Flight Box

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Leo:
Fill full trench (to the rails).
Set the PA high enough to get big hits, but not that high so it doesn't scorch/combust with ease.
Hit it until blasted.
Shake every hit.
The best is to use a whip, so you can see the vapor flow better and you can shake WHILE hitting - the first seconds always makes the most vapor, so it's like multiple hits in one.
If full trench is not enough for you (I used PAMFLB for a long time and full trench has always been more than enough for me), fill another one and continue.

I think slow continuous hits get me better results (if done correctly - so I see vapor flow in the stem the whole time I'm hitting it), but microhits can work great too (Escpecially shaked every microhit). Every technique kicks when you do it well.

 

[storybookhero]

I agree, I like the whip a lot.

 

[banana_republic]

Hey, BR.... Is that Corcovado in the background?

Lovely pic.

Hi Stu! Thanks!
That flag I've seen on the background of your videos and your status in portuguese are really justified, you know where the Banana republic is.
That statue on top of that mount is supposed to be the most visited tourist attraction South of Ecuador.

cheers!

 

[vorrange]

Hi Stu! Thanks!
That flag I've seen on the background of your videos and your status in portuguese are really justified, you know where the Banana republic is.
That statue on top of that mount is supposed to be the most visited tourist attraction South of Ecuador.

cheers!

I wasn't sure which Banana Republic on the south of Equador you were from, should have guessed that the initials tell the whole story.

I tend to associate bananas with spanish speaking countries, don't know why.

Nice pics BTW.

 

[Stu]

Hi Stu! Thanks!
That flag I've seen on the background of your videos and your status in portuguese are really justified, you know where the Banana republic is.
That statue on top of that mount is supposed to be the most visited tourist attraction South of Ecuador.

cheers!

Don't worry, BR. Your secret is safe with me. Não falo pra ninguém.... juro.

I've been to that tourist attraction a few times... Although I bet it would still be the most visited tourist attraction even without my contributions. Glorious views, to be sure.

 

[Coastal]

Hi,
I own a MFLB and the optional power adapter.
I also have the MF Nano grinder made for the LB.
After filling the trench, how do I get to the biggest, most medicated state? I want to be able to get totally blasted.
Should I set the temperature low and take more hits or should I turn up the power and take huge hits?
Is it best to take sips or a long continuous draw?
I do not have medical grade material but it is quite good.
If I fill my box/whip vaporizer bowl halfway and take 2 or 3 huge hits I get totally wasted. I want to be able to duplicate that powerful hit me on the head with a sledge hammer type high.
Any advise would be appreciated.

I grind into a powder (much finer than photos above), fill trench about a quarter. I hit directly from the side of the box and only use a battery. Put in battery and hold for 6 seconds, draw very slowly for 15 or 20, shake. First one is mild and cool. Second one is warmer and more taste. I judge by the taste and warmth. Keep it mild and slow so there is no visible (wasted) vapor after exhalation. After 3 or 4 I stop. Wait 15 minutes for full effect. The quarter trench will last me a few sessions. Remember a whole trench coarse ground = a quarter or less finely ground and if you are blowing out visible vapor it is wasted. The vapor should be absorbed by your lungs, if some of it is left as you exhale, you are taking in too much at one time.

I think if you try the above method you will get just as much of the effect you want with just a few more hits. Remember that the effect of vaporization is achieved after a 10-15 minute delay, not immediately like combustion.

Happy Trails!

 

[storybookhero]

First thing, you should find yourself some medical grade material.(sorry if you live in a state where this is hard to do)
I have a similar setup. I use the mflb along with a whip, the whip then connects to my glass for that extra filterd taste . I find that short steady pulls works best for me. Long pulls using the ac adapter=combustion( at least in my experience). Short and steady is the way to roll. This method will protect your screen from becoming caked in crud and get you well medicated. It's really all about experimenting until you find what best medicates. It takes a bit of practice but the payoff is relief without all the side effects of those nasty pharmacrap drugs.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

First thing, you should find yourself some medical grade material.(sorry if you live in a state where this is hard to do)
I have a similar setup. I use the mflb along with a whip, the whip then connects to my glass for that extra filterd taste . I find that short steady pulls works best for me. Long pulls using the ac adapter=combustion( at least in my experience). Short and steady is the way to roll. This method will protect your screen from becoming caked in crud and get you well medicated. It's really all about experimenting until you find what best medicates. It takes a bit of practice but the payoff is relief without all the side effects of those nasty pharmacrap drugs.

How short are we talking here (in therms of the short pulls)? I have the 1ft whip that I used to attach to my piece but I got bored one day and cut off a 2in piece so I could stick it directly into the downstem instead of attaching the whole whip.

I also find that a good ISO scrub and a burn cycle can fix up a screen nicely, but I'm starting to think if mine needs to be replaced already looking interesting and starting to not vape as well as it used to, but we'll see. Might just be my stuff.

RE: the last sentence, why is there so much animosity in the medical community towards "pharmacrap drugs?" Maybe I don't get that many side effects? Honestly the most problematic drug I'm currently prescribed is my tramadol which gives me nausea and reduces my appetite, but at the trade-off of being pain-free for anywhere from 6-12 hours. It's the kind of pain-free that MM doesn't quite get to.

 

[pakalolo]

Long pulls using the ac adapter=combustion( at least in my experience).

I have my PA set to about 40% of maximum. That is high enough to deliver tasty vapour without reaching combustion no matter how slowly or long I draw. I have never tried holding the button down for more than about a minute, but I suspect that if I did I still would not reach combustion temperature.

The position will vary from setup to setup, but for everyone there should be a point that creates the vapour you want but is still below combustion.

I also find that a good ISO scrub and a burn cycle can fix up a screen nicely, but I'm starting to think if mine needs to be replaced already looking interesting and starting to not vape as well as it used to, but we'll see. Might just be my stuff.

It is almost certainly your stuff. A few pages back, magicflight commented that material that isn't dry enough is responsible for resin build-up. See 10.5 Why do I get resin build-up under the screen? How can I clean it out?.

 

[storybookhero]

I will have to try my PA at a lower setting and see how i do, Thanks for the pro tip!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yeah pakalolo I'm familiar, I was asking about it then too X] However it's not on the "floor" so much as on the actual screen. Hell, it might just be better to grind up everything soon as I get it and keep it in storage, that way it dries up even faster.

 

[pakalolo]

Yeah pakalolo I'm familiar, I was asking about it then too X] However it's not on the "floor" so much as on the actual screen. Hell, it might just be better to grind up everything soon as I get it and keep it in storage, that way it dries up even faster.

I know it's sacrilege to some people but that's what I do. I keep it in the freezer too, which also dries it out more.

 

[Vicki]

I know it's sacrilege to some people but that's what I do. I keep it in the freezer too, which also dries it out more.

Yeah, I just can't bring myself to do that. In my case, I think it would be extra bad. I only use 1 gram per week, and only grind 1 gram at a time. If I were to ground up 14-28 grams at one time, it would take me 14-28 weeks to go through it all, using only my MFLB.

 

[Coastal]

I know it's sacrilege to some people but that's what I do. I keep it in the freezer too, which also dries it out more.

Freezing and dehydrating stops the process which causes the herb to lose potentcy over time. Plus it crumbles up really well cold and dry.

 

[r00r84]

ive had mine for a little while now. although i am getting better quality product as of the past 2 months, i feel like there was a long break in time for my box and now it works great. it doesn't get me where i need to be without 2 or 3 trenches, but i feel like it works better now then it did when it was new.

 

[vapirtoo]

Not to bitch and moan , but that is a lot of trenches.

Back in the days when you combusted, did one doob get you there ?

 

[Coastal]

2 or 3 trenches.

Oh lawd! I only need 2 or 3 hits!

 

[r00r84]

Not to bitch and moan , but that is a lot of trenches.

Back in the days when you combusted, did one doob get you there ?

the needs of today are different from then though. i still combust when im with friends though because we all know its hard to share a vape.


although one decent size dab on a ti nail is perfect

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

the needs of today are different from then though. i still combust when im with friends though because we all know its hard to share a vape.


although one decent size dab on a ti nail is perfect

Ah, you're one of them. I don't wanna do any concentrates just yet because it'll spike my tolerance through the roof, I know it. I wonder how that'll go once we see the concentrate adapter...

if we ever see it...

 

[r00r84]

Ah, you're one of them. I don't wanna do any concentrates just yet because it'll spike my tolerance through the roof, I know it. I wonder how that'll go once we see the concentrate adapter...

if we ever see it...

id love to try it out if it ever gets released. but i dont dab everyday though. maybe a few times a week at the most.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

id love to try it out if it ever gets released. but i dont dab everyday though. maybe a few times a week at the most.

I hear ya. Almost too intense for me, honestly. I don't need to be dabbed out all day, just a decent indica stone going, enough to help ease pain and nausea. Speaking of, woke up around 3.45 this morning thirsty as hell, so I made my way to the kitchen and got some cranberry... but by the time I had made my way back to my room, my stomach felt like a damn vortex. Horrible nausea started to set in real quick, so I sprung for my bag and loaded my box, grabbed a battery, and hopped back into bed. Elevate feet, focus on breathing, inhale, hold, exhale, fresh air, do it again, and again, maybe 8 or 10 hits of mostly indica in there, and 15 minutes later I was feeling fine again, fell asleep actually... now I'm sipping on some coffee and still hitting the same trench. A friend of mine, however, wasn't doing as well, she unfortunately had to go to the hospital this morning due to some of the medications she's on, it was scary and confusing as hell waking up to her telling me she was in the ER and then that she was out with a doctor's note, which is how I figured out that she had meant to call her boss (who has my same name apparently...). Woke up tired/still a bit medicated to that... what an interesting morning.

 

[axilleus]

Hi friends. which mix good for you? I love my mflb + bong glass + marjiu type critical mass. I use bong and not burn more 'throat - palate
I can clean the mflb with alcohol drink?

 

[Leo]

After more testing I'm starting to get the hang of the LB. I've been using mostly the AC adapter a smidge
less than half way. I saw a video where the guy said not to make a seal around the stem while drawing but instead to slowly inhale with the stem just inside the opening of your mouth.

Seems to make a huge difference. I am hammered right now, a bit too much though.

I find it odd using the batteries now. I need to learn how to use the batteries again. I find that the batteries get very hot after 3 draws. I usually rotate two batteries so they don't get hotter than they get now. The batteries are certainly stealthy but they don't maintain a steady power all the way through the hit.

Can one of you PLEASE invent a new battery that lasts for months without needing to be recharged???

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

100% agree with you Leo. Been using the PA consistently since I got it, and I tried using batteries yesterday afternoon. Keep in mind, I have the Powerex 2700's, so these pack a bit more punch from the get-go... I'm BLOWN AWAY at how much more I like the power adapter! Steady power for as long as I want.

Gonna have to use them batteries again in a few weeks for sure when I head up to Disneyland. I don't wanna be that guy running around looking for a power source -_-

Unfortunately, due to physical constrains, I think the 2700 mAh is as high as they can go with that physical shape.

 

[OF]

Can one of you PLEASE invent a new battery that lasts for months without needing to be recharged???

Your prayers have been answered. The factory batteries are 2400 mAh LSD batteries. That means "Low Self Discharge", something like 80% remaining after a year. The 'better' 2700 mAh standard (HSD) ones loose that much in the first day or so. As it seems you've discovered they're basically 'dead' for our purposes a month or so down the road.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_self-discharge_NiMH_battery

Go with the LSDs and you'll do fine (it's why the factory uses them, they come to you charged.....).

"Be careful what you ask for...".

Unfortunately, due to physical constrains, I think the 2700 mAh is as high as they can go with that physical shape.

As I just 'splained above, you're buying the wrong stuff if you want use them the day after charging..... Simple numbers often don't tell the whole story. Low internal resistance, for instance, is what allows maximum power on demand. It's usually a trade off with capacity (the 'hottest' ones and longest lived don't happen at the same time, you have to choose one over the other).

The highest number is not necessarily the best choice.

OF