Vitolo
Vaporist
It is an indicator to show power level (by brightness)... when it eventually dies, the box will still function.
The Magic-Flight Box
- Thread starter magicflight
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No, this is misleading. Although it does power an indicator light as you describe, the real purpose of the "strip" is to serve as the positive end of the connection to the screen. It just happens to also power the light. It most certainly does affect the heat. If the connection to the screen is disturbed, then the screen will not heat up properly, or perhaps not at all. If the light fails, as you say, the LB will still work just fine.
OF
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This is getting a bit confusing.... In the battery hole (side of the box) the ends of the two rods that support the screen (and bring power to it) enter from the left. The near one has a full loop (single coil, the only coil in the unit I know of) which makes electrical contact with the battery wall. Hopefully, this is a sound contact (very little 'contact resistance') so no real heating happens there (we want it all in the screen, but have to settle for some losses in the battery...it will get hot when working). Same for the far rod, only the positive button butts up to it. Contact only, hopefully no heat. And for sure no heat generated on the part of the rods buried in the wood.
The lamp is just an indicator. It shows when the correct contact is made. The heat it provides is trivial. But if it does light normally, you can trust the battery, the hole it's in and connections to both rods. You should be in vaping heaven....or at least on the road to it.
Good luck.
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FormerVapor24
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That one's easy, it's them little bitty electrons, right?
Current (orderly flow of electrons in one direction) comes down the negative rod to where it's 'welded' to the mesh of the screen. Notice how the screen wires run straight across (at least half do)? The current then splits into one of the few hundred paths available to the other rod and then back to the positive of the battery (where they join in a chemical reaction that 'pumps' the electrons around the circuit). As 'pressure is lost' (that's voltage to us), power in the form of heat happens. Since about .75 Volts makes it to the mesh (the rest is lost in the battery and connections) that number (in Volts) times the current (15 Amps nominally) gives us the delivered power in Watts. A bit over 11 Watts in our case, the same general level as Omicron for instance. "Log vapes" run about 8 Watts.
All the useful work is done by the side to side wires in the mesh, the front to back ones are there for mechanical support only.
The key is the stainless steel of the mesh. It a poor conductor (high resistance relatively) and is really tiny in cross section. A lot goes into that material selection.
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BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
HEY! I could have told you the same thing!
Friggin' OF... stealing thunder, ONCE again!
OF
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Go for it, Brother Pakalolo! Jack that sucker up, slip some wheels under it and take it away.......
Cool if it helps 'the guys' enjoy the box a little more you know.
HEY! I could have told you the same thing!
Friggin' OF... stealing thunder, ONCE again!
Thanks so much for the kind words, guys. Twenty bucks each to the same addresses as last time?
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OF
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Yes. Similar to what I get blazing the two (or what I remember of those dark days.....), only more pronounced I think. Lots of bud is 'in the middle' with some of each of course, but a strong Indica is a much more 'loaded, body effect' while sativa is a more clear mental deal.
At least I think it is.......
Anyway, the former for night, the latter for day is probably a good place to start.
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BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
I think the biggest difference I notice when I vape the two strains, is the differences between the two are much more evident/prominent. I think any vape would allow you to feel more of the individual aspects of a particular strain. Smoking, you're just "stoned". Yeah you'll be peppy or couch-locked, etc... but after smoking whatever strain I did, I felt like a nap afterwards, it seems.
the reason I asked was I thought that vaping basically extracted THC and THC is THC regardless of the strain being sativia or indica. I thought what made an sativia and indica different were the CBDs (I think thats it) and vaping didnt really extract much of those.. or at least thats what I thought
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Vaping as a process is different from combusting, since aside from the difference in the vaping temperatures, the act of combusting implicates that a big part of the THC is lost, and another part is further transformed in CBN/CBD.
So, we end up with a much higher CBN/CBD percentage when you combust, whether it is a sativa or indica strain.
In the vaping process, you get more of the original THC/CBN ratio than with combusting. This is appart from the difference between an indica and a sativa in terms of THC/CBN ratio. That is what BigDaddyVapor was saying about the differences between the two being much more proeminent.
ThirdGunman
Active Member
"FEELS WEIRD" not sure this is a good descriptor. If you feel a tingling then you might have just pulled or sprained something. If you can't move it, or you're in pain, then you might want to seek medical advice, but to me it just sounds like you might have flown too high, and maybe a nap is in order to calm things down. Also, using all caps is a bit annoying... Most can sense the urgency if you just capitalize one sentence.
ok sorry, well i didnt vape that much i dont even feel stoned i can use my arm fine but i feel a little bit tingly in it like i have cut off the blood supply, i do tend to worry..
how volatile is the battery cap. im usually very careful but i did it in the dark now so i couldnt see...does it trigger on skin contact? my thumb was a little sweaty but not really that wet
i feeel a little bit numb but i can use my arm and hand fine, including typing this post.
how dangerous is the nimmh battery? could it discharge and blast your hand? i didnt feel that much pain as far as i remember wheni pushed down on the battery but the very thought of having done something bad is scary to me
how volatile is the battery cap. im usually very careful but i did it in the dark now so i couldnt see...does it trigger on skin contact? my thumb was a little sweaty but not really that wet
i feeel a little bit numb but i can use my arm and hand fine, including typing this post.
how dangerous is the nimmh battery? could it discharge and blast your hand? i didnt feel that much pain as far as i remember wheni pushed down on the battery but the very thought of having done something bad is scary to me
I think your fine. I just tried this myself and can not feel a thing by doing it. I just think the MFLB has done it's job a little too well 
HAHA DID you push down with your thumb on the battery because i said so?
ok if u dont feel anyting and the battery was charged well then it shouldnt happen to me too
yes the MFLB can be a powerful tool in the right (or wrong hands!)
then i shodlnt worry thank you VERY much! i hope u have a VERY nice day my friend!
i wish you all the best!!!
edit: btw was it the un capped part(?) ie the nipple side? don't try again plz im just double checking if it was
ok if u dont feel anyting and the battery was charged well then it shouldnt happen to me too
yes the MFLB can be a powerful tool in the right (or wrong hands!)
then i shodlnt worry thank you VERY much! i hope u have a VERY nice day my friend!
i wish you all the best!!!
edit: btw was it the un capped part(?) ie the nipple side? don't try again plz im just double checking if it was
skippy
Well-Known Member
Wow, just wow.
OF
Well-Known Member
I think your fine. I just tried this myself and can not feel a thing by doing it. I just think the MFLB has done it's job a little too well
Calm down, guys. I taught this good stuff for a lot of years? Did you sleep through all the electrical safety lectures?
The short of it is 'no way Charlie' there was electric current of any significance flowing with dry skin at 3.7 Volts. I'm sorry to throw technical terms at you and all, but 'no way Charlie' is the level of risk. By the numbers WAY under the threshold of perception (a bit less than 1/1000 of an Amp for a ball park number). Currents large enough for concern run 100 times that under 'worst case' conditions (direct through heart area of upper chest). Before getting there, you'd literally run the risk of breaking your own arm (or face by 'self punching') and be sore as hell anyway.
You'd need electrodes attached directly to the nerves and ten or more times that voltage to even get in the game. Much much more (including bad luck) to do so through the skin.
IMO you got a random nerve fire, could have been from a pencil just as well.
Not to worry.
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ThirdGunman
Active Member
Munkdo, I've been shocked by car batteries, welding equipment, and pleanty of househould outlets and in my experience if it doesn't stop your heart right there you'll be alright. However, I have heard some horror stories, but we're talking about a AA not a tazer.
skippy
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OF
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Yes a AA battery, unbelievable.
I'm not sure I'd call it 'unbelievable', something must have happened. I just don't think it was an electrical shock from that battery in that way.
I'm still comfortable working in a very conservative safety world around this stuff that puts anything less than 24 volts in the 'not a real hazard' group (there's also a 50 VA limit on power). Exposed wiring is OK, unlike dangerous voltages. No special training or certifications needed for Technicians that work with that or lower voltages.
I still wouldn't lick it......
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