The Magic-Flight Box

[chloe]

** it did not come with instructions...just wondering what the best way to keep the screen clean? Can I use an ear picker to scrape debris off? Just wondering how sensitive the screen is to pressure.

Thanks

Did you buy the version with all the accessories. If so you should have received a small brush that you use to clean the screen. I've seen these same types of brushes in my dad's garage when I was younger so perhaps they are also used in either painting or mechanic applications. The screen is delicate so what you use you want it to be soft and flexible and you do not want to apply much, if any, pressure to the screen.

No I did not since I have so many batteries and chargers and the brush looked like any other brush. I did get the box with all the mouthpieces though since blissville offered lower shipping for orders over a certain amount. I'll probably use those brush blowers used to clean camera lens.

oh and I finally used up the first battery up on the 3rd trench (still 1/2 way filled)...you can definitely tell a difference on how fast it vapes the herb as the battery loses power....there's probably some juice left in the battery for a few more but it does take a few seconds longer to cook...I would try a 4th trench...but that last trench got me

 

[magicflight]

.. it [the Bare Box] did not come with instructions...

Hi,

The instructions for the Launch Box can be viewed and downloaded at
http://magic-flight.com/ixmainfiles/launch_box_dir_4.PDF

We had thought that people ordering the Bare Box would usually have had a complete kit unit already (with instructions) and would be treating the Bare Box as an additional fill or backup unit -- hence our oversight. We will create an instructions page for the Bare Box to include with it.

Thanks again,
-- Magic-flight

PS/Edit:

took a pic with the loonie for the relative size...

I like the picture -- any chance I could send it to our webmaster for inclusion in our next site update?

 

[magicflight]

If there is sufficient interest (and it is allowed), I will create one.

-- Magic-Flight

That sounds like an impressive product! I suggest posting about it here:

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=402

as that thread was created for aromatherapy purposes. True, that thread was created to learn about what oils, etc. to get for our vaporizers that are designed to be diffusers as well, but this product would probably be a good contribution to that thread.

Hi Stickstones,

I took a look at that thread -- it would be good to mention it there. However, as I am representing the manufacturer of the product, I had taken it as a "rule" that I should not post about our products outside of my own specific product threads created for that purpose (since it could be interpreted as "spamming"). As such, you are welcome to post a link to the site describing the AV (http://www.mermadearts.com/info_pages.php?pages_id=26) in that thread, if you feel it would be helpful. However, since the AV is a product rather than an application, and therefore likely to generate questions/comments on its own, it is probably needs its own thread in the product group, even though it requires a user mod to be applied for consumption.

could one place foil on the screen for the launch box to use it for oils, powders, etc?

Hi Reece,

Not really, unfortunately. The issue is that using the aluminum foil (necessary to protect the screen from oil and resin) can also affect the electrical properties of the Box, potentially disabling or damaging it. In the AV unit, the screen shape is different (a flat plane) and the foil is formed into a specifically shaped dish prior to placing it on the screen. The overall effect in the AV unit is (usually) to create exactly one point of electrical contact while still allowing for significant thermal transfer. There really is no reliable way to achieve the same effect in the Box with user formed aluminum foil trays. Other alternatives have been tried with the Box, but none work so well as what is already available with the AV unit.

-- Magic-flight

 

[Plasmah]

magicflight

What does that symbol mean in the bottom left of chloe's photo?

 

[Durden]

 

[max]

magicflight

What does that symbol mean in the bottom left of chloe's photo?

Speaking of pics, you get the award for for the most 'distracting' avatar.

 

[Jikaboom123]

Speaking of pics, you get the award for for the most 'distracting' avatar.

You think that's distracting?

 

[Plasmah]

WooHooo!

Wow she has some cans for a thin chick.

 

[reece]

could one place foil on the screen for the launch box to use it for oils, powders, etc?

Hi Reece,

Not really, unfortunately. The issue is that using the aluminum foil (necessary to protect the screen from oil and resin) can also affect the electrical properties of the Box, potentially disabling or damaging it. In the AV unit, the screen shape is different (a flat plane) and the foil is formed into a specifically shaped dish prior to placing it on the screen. The overall effect in the AV unit is (usually) to create exactly one point of electrical contact while still allowing for significant thermal transfer. There really is no reliable way to achieve the same effect in the Box with user formed aluminum foil trays. Other alternatives have been tried with the Box, but none work so well as what is already available with the AV unit.

-- Magic-flight

Hi Magicflight,

Thanks for the quick reply, I wasn't expecting one on the weekend. Could there be another way, besides the straw, to modify the AV for consumption? Any possibility of you folks adding a lid and a hole (for the LB draw stems) to the AV to make an all new product specifically for consumption of oils and resins? Speaking as someone with no specific knowledge of the manufacturing of your product, nor any knowledge of manufacturing in general, I think it would work.

Just a wild guess but Hash Box probably wouldn't be a good official name.
How about the Aromatic Launch Box? Aromatic Box? Aero Box?

 

[KeepCalm]

Good god, the two of you in a row with those avatars.

I gotta go find my wife. C'mere honey I got something for you.

 

[chloe]

magicflight

What does that symbol mean in the bottom left of chloe's photo?

to me it looks like M F (magic flight) and also a stick person depending on how u look at it

.. it [the Bare Box] did not come with instructions...

Hi,

The instructions for the Launch Box can be viewed and downloaded at
http://magic-flight.com/ixmainfiles/launch_box_dir_4.PDF

We had thought that people ordering the Bare Box would usually have had a complete kit unit already (with instructions) and would be treating the Bare Box as an additional fill or backup unit -- hence our oversight. We will create an instructions page for the Bare Box to include with it.

Thanks again,
-- Magic-flight

PS/Edit:

took a pic with the loonie for the relative size...

I like the picture -- any chance I could send it to our webmaster for inclusion in our next site update?

sure no problem

I know someone mentioned this and possibly remember reading it wasn't going to appear in new models...but just for clarification..can you tell me what the smaller hole on the other end is for? is it required? Mine has it, so do I lose vapor from that hole at all? Just wondering if it wasn't needed if I can just block it off.

thanks

 

[magicflight]

What does that symbol mean?

The Magic-Flight symbol is a multiple orientation synthesis of the
following elements, visual concepts, and ideas:.
- a stylized M and F (newer ones with a dash between them).
- a graphic representation of vapor emerging from the Box itself,
(the crescent representing the screen the material sits in, the circle
representing the load and/or the draw hole, and the squiggle being the vapor).
- images representative of a person (a woman, a priest, the burning man, and/or
a person skiing).
- the natural sun and moon and:.
- a pyramid.
- a gnomic rod (ancient surveying instrument).
- a road to the horizon.
- a sun and planetary body with a spaceship (the Magic-Flight theme).
- the Ankah (a symbol from Egyptian mysticism).
- a lightning strike (power).
- a geometric trinity (circle, triangle, crescent, as representative of trinities in
general, Druidic and/or metaphysical wisdom).

 

[magicflight]

Could there be another way, besides the straw, to modify the AV for consumption?

The most likely approach is to make a lid with similar airwork as associated with the Box. One disadvantage of nearly all designs of this type is that there is no real way to preload it. The user would have to keep it right side up to avoid tipping liquids and powders into places it should not be, even while in use. However, if this sort if thing is widely desired, we can make them using our existing tooling.

 

[magicflight]

can you tell me what the smaller hole on the other end is for? is it required? Mine has it, so do I lose vapor from that hole at all? Just wondering if it wasn't needed if I can just block it off.

The smaller hole on the opposite end of the Box is part of the assembly process. It is not connected to the vapor chamber so there is no possibility of loosing vapor through it. You can plug it if you wish.

 

[reece]

Could there be another way, besides the straw, to modify the AV for consumption?

The most likely approach is to make a lid with similar airwork as associated with the Box. One disadvantage of nearly all designs of this type is that there is no real way to preload it. The user would have to keep it right side up to avoid tipping liquids and powders into places it should not be, even while in use. However, if this sort if thing is widely desired, we can make them using our existing tooling.

Yeah, no pre-loading and keeping it right side up would not be an issue for me. If one were to use the AV with a straw it would still need to be kept upright and there would be no pre-loading. Having the lid and draw hole would be so much more convenient than "chasing the dragon." (maybe there's a name in there somewhere? Dragon Box? Smaug?) Thanks again for taking the time to hash (pun intended) this out with me.


So, FC community, is anyone besides myself interested in a dedicated vaporizer for oils/resins?

 

[Beezleb]

I would imagine their is a market for harsh/oil vape but I think a different style of box might be better so that it could be preloaded and easier handled. While the limitations of adapting the MF to your needs suits you it likely would not for a general retail product.

I can see a product like this that answers the limitations of the MF for hash/oil as being quite popular. I am certain it would be a hit in Europe as Hash is far more popular than buds and I would imagine in places where medical weed is legal they would be ideal product sellers.

If I had stable and quality access to good oil I would get one.

 

[reece]

I would imagine their is a market for harsh/oil vape but I think a different style of box might be better so that it could be preloaded and easier handled. While the limitations of adapting the MF to your needs suits you it likely would not for a general retail product.

I can see a product like this that answers the limitations of the MF for hash/oil as being quite popular. I am certain it would be a hit in Europe as Hash is far more popular than buds and I would imagine in places where medical weed is legal they would be ideal product sellers.

If I had stable and quality access to good oil I would get one.

I've haven't seen any type of oil in 5 years and before that who knows. I would use it for kif (which I save for dry spells). Considering it would be the only such product on the market (as far as I can tell from reading FC, please correct me if I am wrong), maybe the pre-load issue would be an minor limitation. But maybe you're right.

 

[Beezleb]

I would love to see a Magic Flight vape for oil.

on other means to use oil:
If you want to get fancy, get an opium pipe but not so easy to find. The key is to find a workable reproduction.

A extract slide, like a bowl but the holes are near the top instead of the bottom and an oil bell work well too and more likely to be used than opium pipe.

I think the only regular places to find oil are if you live in Holland or near a medical dispensary. You can also make it yourself.

Typically most people roll their weed in it then use the weed as normal, however this tends to gum up screens so generally put a layer of clean weed down first if vaping.

 

[chloe]

if you didn't buy the kit and you want a battery case..I use these:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3558 (down)
use this instead:
http://www2.dealextreme.com:8080/details.dx/sku.3558

edit:
here are some pics of my recent enhancement to the LB experience...i'm lovin' it!!

size small ordinary lookn' mcdonalds cup

cut a hole so it's easier to apply pressure, remove the battery etc.

fits 3 batteries on each side, rubber band is so the batteries don't slip when I shake the cup; batteries stay in place (1 side for fresh, other side for dead batteries)

I keep herb in the contact lens compartment

used it beside some relatives and they didn't suspect a thing

 

[Plasmah]

chloe

Too funny man!
Great idea I like it.

 

[owin]

That's awesome chloe.

 

[stickstones]

yup chloe...how much will the production model be?

 

[IAmKrazy2]

i love the idea for the cup. . . .but seems kindof like a lot of work for a paper FB case. I wonder if there is anything else that would be more durable in the long run.

 

[Beezleb]

Gives me a better appreciation of Mc, D's

 

[owin]

I want to see it in the big mac box.