From what i understand, there is no formal ETA. Though I'm hoping for this year. Last I heard, it would be a whole new cap. The stem and 14mm WPA would be the same, but you would need to purchase a new cap.
The Lotus Vaporizer
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cybrguy
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ezvapes.com always has good prices, but they also always have a FC discount of 16%. Just use fc16 as the discount code.
Fenton Mewley
A man in search of cloudier pastures
Look up. 
TLDR: ezvaporizers.com, fc16 for 16% off.
If you want to buy directly from MT I think you need to wait until 4/20.
TLDR: ezvaporizers.com, fc16 for 16% off.
If you want to buy directly from MT I think you need to wait until 4/20.
Feels like I've had my Lotus for nearly a year now. Thought I'd pop by and give a brief review of my usage with the Lotus v2, traditional pipe setup, no adapters.
The Good
- Insanely durable. This thing can take a beating. It's nice to have a device where you don't have to worry about breaking it.
- When used properly, it hits extremely well. A few good hits and you'll be good to go.
- Efficient compared to traditional smoking pipe.
- No batteries or recharge to dingle around with. Of course you have to buy butane instead, but butane is fairly cheap and in many ways more convenient.
The Bad
- Not the easiest to stir. Why? Have to pop a very hot cap off and use the stick attached to it to stir. It's extremely easy to burn yourself if you aren't paying close attention because of its odd shape and lacking of a good "grip". Furthermore you have to find a surface you can stir over without losing any material unless you restrict yourself to smaller bowls.
- Not stealthy. You have to heat it up with a torch (which you might not want to be seen or heard doing), and maintain the torch over it while taking the hit. If you're in a situation where you need to be paying at least the slightest amount of attention to maintain stealthiness - then you're going to have a problem. I wouldn't feel safe using this in the parking lot behind my work. Or in the bathroom.
- Requires a lot of technique and attention. If you just want to chill and watch TV and get high - it's not easy with this thing. If you want solid hits that don't combust, you have to pay exclusive attention to the Lotus while taking your hits. I'd say the technique required for taking hits might be too complicated. Most people I offer the Lotus to refuse to try it because they're intimidated by the hitting procedure. Because of this it's really poor in social situations. Once, under the influence of alcohol, I slightly torched the wood-coloring on the cap. If it's easy for me to accidentally damage it, I really wouldn't even want to consider offering hits to anyone else in the first place.
- The 'Honest' brand torch lighter sold with my unit sucked. It was practically unusable - which is disappointing considering I ordered the more expensive torch. I've purchased a better torch since, but I can't fit the torch in the Lotus bag so it's a little lacking in portability.
- Screen clogs fast! Mine needed to be thoroughly cleaned merely after a couple days' of use. For every 10 bowls, it'd get really hard to draw air through. Not just the screen, but the device itself needed to be cleaned often or else I noticed a strange taste.
If I were to grade the Lotus I purchased on a scale of 1-5, I'd give it a 3. It does what it's advertised to do, very well. Unfortunately there are caveats that prevent me from saying I've had a great experience with the device, mainly due to lack of accessibility and ease of use. I remember it took me dozens of tries before I could even get a decent hit out of the thing. It's not very difficult, so I don't want to overstate it's difficulty, but I will say it's simply a lot more difficult than hitting anything else on the market.
The Good
- Insanely durable. This thing can take a beating. It's nice to have a device where you don't have to worry about breaking it.
- When used properly, it hits extremely well. A few good hits and you'll be good to go.
- Efficient compared to traditional smoking pipe.
- No batteries or recharge to dingle around with. Of course you have to buy butane instead, but butane is fairly cheap and in many ways more convenient.
The Bad
- Not the easiest to stir. Why? Have to pop a very hot cap off and use the stick attached to it to stir. It's extremely easy to burn yourself if you aren't paying close attention because of its odd shape and lacking of a good "grip". Furthermore you have to find a surface you can stir over without losing any material unless you restrict yourself to smaller bowls.
- Not stealthy. You have to heat it up with a torch (which you might not want to be seen or heard doing), and maintain the torch over it while taking the hit. If you're in a situation where you need to be paying at least the slightest amount of attention to maintain stealthiness - then you're going to have a problem. I wouldn't feel safe using this in the parking lot behind my work. Or in the bathroom.
- Requires a lot of technique and attention. If you just want to chill and watch TV and get high - it's not easy with this thing. If you want solid hits that don't combust, you have to pay exclusive attention to the Lotus while taking your hits. I'd say the technique required for taking hits might be too complicated. Most people I offer the Lotus to refuse to try it because they're intimidated by the hitting procedure. Because of this it's really poor in social situations. Once, under the influence of alcohol, I slightly torched the wood-coloring on the cap. If it's easy for me to accidentally damage it, I really wouldn't even want to consider offering hits to anyone else in the first place.
- The 'Honest' brand torch lighter sold with my unit sucked. It was practically unusable - which is disappointing considering I ordered the more expensive torch. I've purchased a better torch since, but I can't fit the torch in the Lotus bag so it's a little lacking in portability.
- Screen clogs fast! Mine needed to be thoroughly cleaned merely after a couple days' of use. For every 10 bowls, it'd get really hard to draw air through. Not just the screen, but the device itself needed to be cleaned often or else I noticed a strange taste.
If I were to grade the Lotus I purchased on a scale of 1-5, I'd give it a 3. It does what it's advertised to do, very well. Unfortunately there are caveats that prevent me from saying I've had a great experience with the device, mainly due to lack of accessibility and ease of use. I remember it took me dozens of tries before I could even get a decent hit out of the thing. It's not very difficult, so I don't want to overstate it's difficulty, but I will say it's simply a lot more difficult than hitting anything else on the market.
Gray Area
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I pop my thumb over the bowl, and stir at an angle through the gap between thumb and bowl. No spillage
Seasoned Senior
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@1337Dude I think that's a very fair assessment. I enjoy my Lotus, but it's not what I take on vacation for sitting on the balcony or beach, trying to be discreet. My favorite use of the Lotus is with the WPA. I assume your issues with cleaning are referring to the aluminum stem. I also have the J-hook. Are you using standard screens or fine screens? The standard won't clog as easily, but they also won't hold up as long as the fine.
The aluminum stem definitely clogs pretty easy. I haven't had that problem with my WPA though. A quick ISO rinse should take care of the stem with very little effort. I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to clean the WPA on account of the rubber O-rings.
As has been stated many times in this thread, the Lotus works great with a smaller amount of herb. I almost never combust when I do not over pack.
As far as technique is concerned, it's pretty simple: Heat while you inhale, stop heating when you stop inhaling. Sometimes I'll give it a second or two extra at the beginning of a session, but that's all there is to it most of the time.
I was having a lot of trouble getting consistent vapor with my old cap, but it turned out to be defective. I also keep my Honest torch turned up about 3/4 of the way (give or take a little based on the quantity of butane left in the chamber). I agree that the Honest lighter is not the best and has a small tank, but it is adequate. My defective cap still provides better quality vapor than any other portable I've ever tried. Hammer Pro comes close, but requires a lot more waiting for vapor than I prefer.
As has been stated many times in this thread, the Lotus works great with a smaller amount of herb. I almost never combust when I do not over pack.
As far as technique is concerned, it's pretty simple: Heat while you inhale, stop heating when you stop inhaling. Sometimes I'll give it a second or two extra at the beginning of a session, but that's all there is to it most of the time.
I was having a lot of trouble getting consistent vapor with my old cap, but it turned out to be defective. I also keep my Honest torch turned up about 3/4 of the way (give or take a little based on the quantity of butane left in the chamber). I agree that the Honest lighter is not the best and has a small tank, but it is adequate. My defective cap still provides better quality vapor than any other portable I've ever tried. Hammer Pro comes close, but requires a lot more waiting for vapor than I prefer.
Unisonruss
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You won't regret it...it remains my favorite vape!
Sold out :/
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
First lotus hit and i lightly browned a good size load in one lung busting hit that left me coughing and hacking. I felt like i wasn't getting anything, and using the j hook i didn't see any vapor. o torched heavy, and next thing i knew my lungs were full and i was hacking. Must have neen the light. Ill tune it in eventually, but not what i expected of my first hit.
Back to testing
Back to testing
Back off the load size, try using a very small load - barely enough to cover the screen, you'll find better performance with small loads
stickstones
Vapor concierge
no. I usually end up with one side of the bowl browned. But that may be because of the angle that I hold the torch at. The stir stick is a part of the Lotus for a reason! I usually finish my bowls in three hits. A fourth hit usually leads to combustion. Once you get it down, go whitewall a bubbler with it!
I dunno, my Lotus cap vapes the herb evenly. I have no problems toasting a small load (single scoop!) with one hit from the torch. It's a massive hit, but doable
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Do you angle your torch? I think I get better results when I force myself to come at it straight from above. If I angle it, the side I angle towards seems to get a little more toasty.
Behaviorist
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I ordered another Lotus because I fried the first one. I overheated the cap during the learning process.
I had it down finally and then it stopped vaping and I started smoking the cap.
Now that I know it's a ten count hahaha does the flame ever need to touch the plate?
I had it down finally and then it stopped vaping and I started smoking the cap.
Now that I know it's a ten count hahaha does the flame ever need to touch the plate?
Straight down, never angled, usually I start the torch close to the plate, and pull back as it starts to vape (this technique obviously works best with a j-hook or bubbler). I vary the distance between the flame and the plate to adjust the heat during the draw. All while keeping the torch moving in a constant circle ( I tried a figure 8 pattern for a while, but this produced an uneven browning of the load, so I switched back to a circular pattern). I always yell at my friends when I see them stop moving the torch
stickstones
Vapor concierge
no shit...you're a circler! I always keep mine steady...not that I know if one is better than the other. Did you do the math so we can all just do circles now?
My friend scorched my Lotus the other day. I'm pretty bummed out about it, but he said he'd pay for my next replacement, so c'est la vie. Presently it still functions fine, it just has a really unfortunate looking black mark on the nice, natural finish.
Something to comment on is the lighting. My E-Nano used to provide opaque vapor in any light. That may be a result of its more powerful heating core or it may have been the result of some minor combustion, but the fact remains. Lotus vapor is much more susceptible to changes in lighting. My living room is extremely brightly lit and hits can appear wispy at times. In my experience the Lotus has never provided anything but top quality vapor at a perfect density.
I've been trying to see what the point of combustion is for my new cap and it is a difficult point to reach. Maybe because of the way I adjust my inhale? I've been packing FAT bowls with some nice scoops of kief on top and still not really reaching combustion. Either way, I'm extremely satisfied with my Lotus purchase. It has a solid chance of being my one and only.
Something to comment on is the lighting. My E-Nano used to provide opaque vapor in any light. That may be a result of its more powerful heating core or it may have been the result of some minor combustion, but the fact remains. Lotus vapor is much more susceptible to changes in lighting. My living room is extremely brightly lit and hits can appear wispy at times. In my experience the Lotus has never provided anything but top quality vapor at a perfect density.
I've been trying to see what the point of combustion is for my new cap and it is a difficult point to reach. Maybe because of the way I adjust my inhale? I've been packing FAT bowls with some nice scoops of kief on top and still not really reaching combustion. Either way, I'm extremely satisfied with my Lotus purchase. It has a solid chance of being my one and only.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
My technique is similar to yours, but I sometimes just draw harder once good vaping is happening rather than move the torch further away. Either method works. But I do keep circling as you do.
I must say you guys have me using smaller loads, and I scorch or combust less that way.
Seasoned Senior
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I move the torch on my Lotus as often as I switch devices: Constantly.
Behaviorist
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What kind of draw speed do I need to be using compared to my enano? And does the flame itself ever really need to touch the plate or is just breathing it down from slightly above enough.
I would be more than happy to post my one week fried cap for a good laugh if anyone cares
I would be more than happy to post my one week fried cap for a good laugh if anyone cares