The Lotus Vaporizer

Yoduh

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This is a prototype but it will prevent burned fingers and dropped WPA's. Send a stamped, self-addressed envelope and $1 and we'll send you a handle and an extra o-ring. Be sure to line the handle up with the magnet when you install it.
Mendocino Therapeutics LLC
PO Box 2799
Ukiah, CA 95482
Will this ship with new Lotus orders or would I need to request it?
 

Phizix

Well-Known Member
I've got to say that since I got my lotus in mid December I haven't used any of my other vapes.

Its easy to use, easy to clean/maintain, and results are instant. You can load as much or as little as you like, its portable and gives hits the quality of a home unit, very versatile. Flavor is true to what you put in it.

I use it multiple times a day and have just now gone through 1 320ml can of vector butane (in 3 1/2 months), so its been pretty economical to operate over time, even with heavy usage.

I love the simple beauty of the metal and wood construction and I have dropped it numerous times with no damage.

The only downside I can really think of is that it isn't stealthy for public use and requires 2 hands, but its ability to be totally off the grid as long as you have a functional torch and butane makes it superior to units requiring electricity imo.

It definitely does not leave me wanting...
 

mstwrt

New Member
Well I've had my Lotus for a week now and I really like it! Went through some hassles trying to get a working torch (man it is hard to find those in stores!) after breaking the one that came with it (my fault). My only vaping experiences have been with the Pax and the Lotus - very different experiences to say the least - and I can't say which I prefer. I'm curious - the Lotus is so harsh to me (I always cough afterwards, and it always feels hot in my throat and lungs), is it really that much better for me than combustion? I'm just wondering what the difference is between really hot vapor and "smoke." If that makes any sense. Am I getting some kind of benefit to my lungs by using the Lotus instead of a joint? Because if not I'll probably go back to the joints so I don't have to deal with all this paraphernalia (and butane) anymore.
 
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natural farmer

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Well I've had my Lotus for a week now and I really like it! Went through some hassles trying to get a working torch (man it is hard to find those in stores!) after breaking the one that came with it (my fault). My only vaping experiences have been with the Pax and the Lotus - very different experiences to say the least - and I can't say which I prefer. I'm curious - the Lotus is so harsh to me (I always cough afterwards, and it always feels hot in my throat and lungs), is it really that much better for me than combustion? I'm just wondering what the difference is between really hot vapor and "smoke." If that makes any sense. Am I getting some kind of benefit to my lungs by using the Lotus instead of a joint? Because if not I'll probably go back to the joints so I don't have to deal with all this paraphernalia (and butane) anymore.

Why don't you try lower temps?
 

Bouldorado

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@mstwrt

What color is your weed after you finish a bowl? If it's black or very dark brown it's getting too hot. The goal (for most people) is a light brown. Try one or more of the following:
  • Turn your torch down
  • Move it farther from the plate
  • Increase your draw speed
 

Delta3DStudios

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Accessory Maker
Hi all!

Just wanted to chime in. Tonight the unthinkable happened - my DV Ascent heating element failed (after 1 month as my daily driver)! I believe a simple solder connection failed, but I was expecting it (just not this soon).

Being that the Ascent converted me to Vaping, I can't go back to combustion for a week+ while I ship my Ascent back and wait for an RMA!! So after a bit of research, I've decided to purchase the Lotus! Since I'm only using it around the house (and my new D020 knockoff from Dhgate will be here next week), I figured this would be a perfect solution.

The ascent is great, but it's far too complicated, way too many components to fail. The simplicity of the Lotus (and the feedback from this forum) were the selling points for me - I get the feeling this Lotus will outlive me! (Maybe not the torch, but at least the Lotus itself!).

Question - how long did it take for you guys to master the temperatures? Is it possible to get a low temperature toke, and save the rest of the pack for later (IE - low temp hit before a workout, then finish the pack after the workout). Also, is there anything different I need to do for small micro-loads? Do I need to fill the chamber with anything?

All of the new WPAs will include the handle, and we will ship the individual handles internationally. They weight less than an ounce (handles) and fit in standard envelopes.

Will it be included with my J-Hook WPA kit I just purchased tonight?
Also, how fast is shipping? Hopefully I can have this shipped tomorrow, for monday/tuesday delivery!
 

oklahomie

Well-Known Member
Question - how long did it take for you guys to master the temperatures? Is it possible to get a low temperature toke, and save the rest of the pack for later (IE - low temp hit before a workout, then finish the pack after the workout). Also, is there anything different I need to do for small micro-loads? Do I need to fill the chamber with anything?
It definitely takes a few bowls to get the techniques down, but it is worth it.
And yes! This is one of my favorite parts about the Lotus. You can pack a bowl, take a few tasty hits to get a buzz, then come back later, stir, and blast off again!

The Lotus handles tiny loads really well without anything else in the bowl. I barely cover the screen all the time and always get nice sized hits. It's like the perfect vape one-hitter.

I really love having a vape that lets me start and stop when I want! I'm in control always. No more waiting for heating times or continuing a bowl because I don't want to be wasteful..
 

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
It definitely takes a few bowls to get the techniques down, but it is worth it.
And yes! This is one of my favorite parts about the Lotus. You can pack a bowl, take a few tasty hits to get a buzz, then come back later, stir, and blast off again!

The Lotus handles tiny loads really well without anything else in the bowl. I barely cover the screen all the time and always get nice sized hits. It's like the perfect vape one-hitter.

I really love having a vape that lets me start and stop when I want! I'm in control always. No more waiting for heating times or continuing a bowl because I don't want to be wasteful..

Awesome! Sounds like I picked the perfect vape! How long are your extended 'sessions'? When I pack my Ascent full, I can go for 30 minutes if I want, constantly sipping away at it.

Now I have a conduction based vape (Ascent), and Convection (Lotus) - it'll be interesting to compare the differences once I get a working Ascent!
 

oklahomie

Well-Known Member
Awesome! Sounds like I picked the perfect vape! How long are your extended 'sessions'? When I pack my Ascent full, I can go for 30 minutes if I want, constantly sipping away at it.

Now I have a conduction based vape (Ascent), and Convection (Lotus) - it'll be interesting to compare the differences once I get a working Ascent!

Honestly I've only had mine for a few weeks, and I've never really tried to see how long I can actually make a bowl last. I'm a bit more of a cloud chaser you could say. I've definitely never had a bowl last 30 minutes though. Maybe someone else here could give you a better answer. Although with a Lotus you can hit it once and then put it down, so you could make a session last however long you wanted really.
 

ataxian

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I struggled a fi
I've got to say that since I got my lotus in mid December I haven't used any of my other vapes.

Its easy to use, easy to clean/maintain, and results are instant. You can load as much or as little as you like, its portable and gives hits the quality of a home unit, very versatile. Flavor is true to what you put in it.

I use it multiple times a day and have just now gone through 1 320ml can of vector butane (in 3 1/2 months), so its been pretty economical to operate over time, even with heavy usage.

I love the simple beauty of the metal and wood construction and I have dropped it numerous times with no damage.

The only downside I can really think of is that it isn't stealthy for public use and requires 2 hands, but its ability to be totally off the grid as long as you have a functional torch and butane makes it superior to units requiring electricity imo.

It definitely does not leave me wanting...
I struggled at first.
However I really like it and I'm getting it wired!

"FINALLY"!

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Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Hey all!

Doing some more research today about the lotus before it arrives. Question - I have a D020 (dhgate) knockoff coming next week, and I already have an 14mm to 18mm adapter, but now I'm concerned about that stir stick on the Lotus. Will that get in the way? Do I need some sort of extender to properly mount the Lotus?
 
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mstwrt

New Member
Thanks all who offered tips - I tried with the different temps, moving the torch different distances, etc., but I think I'm just gonna throw in the towel with this Lotus. Between the harshness (which I can't seem to lessen) and the unbelievable pain in the ass of tending to/refilling constantly a butane torch, this is just a really unpleasant experience. Back to setting this stuff on fire!! Not worth the hassle for me.
 
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jambandphan03

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Thanks all who offered tips - I tried with the different temps, moving the torch different distances, etc., but I think I'm just gonna throw in the towel with this Lotus. Between the harshness (which I can't seem to lessen) and the unbelievable pain in the ass of tending to/refilling constantly a butane torch, this is just a really unpleasant experience. Back to setting this stuff on fire!! Not worth the hassle for me.

Hate to see you giving up, you shouldn't be having so many issues (it's not the usual experience for most) mine is vaping in 5 seconds and I've got a full milky bubbler easy peasy, did you try it with a water tool? Learning curves are a challenge with most vapes, but once you get it, you get it and the enjoyment sets in. It's hard to troubleshoot for people with limited information, perhaps a vid of how you use it might help if you are so inclined. It could be just a bad torch lighter causing your problems. Hope you give it another chance, otherwise, best wishes, hate to see you go.
 
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mstwrt

New Member
Thanks! I've watched SOOO many videos and all that -- it's just too big a pain in the ass. I thought the torch thing wouldn't be a dealbreaker but it is.
 
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natural farmer

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Thanks all who offered tips - I tried with the different temps, moving the torch different distances, etc., but I think I'm just gonna throw in the towel with this Lotus. Between the harshness (which I can't seem to lessen) and the unbelievable pain in the ass of tending to/refilling constantly a butane torch, this is just a really unpleasant experience. Back to setting this stuff on fire!! Not worth the hassle for me.

I think you better give yourself some more time adjusting to vaporizing… Sip some warm tea between hits or water… You seem to had problems with the Pax as well…
 
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mstwrt

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No I love vaping in general, though the Pax did present a lot of problems too (mostly in that it devours weed). I wasn't prepared for how harsh the Lotus would be, so maybe the warm tea would've helped, but I'm not really invested in making the Lotus work for me anymore, it's cool!

So, it is better to endure the harshness of combusting? And what pain is there in refilling a lighter everyday for 5seconds? :hmm:

It seems you have a mix of bad technique/bad lighter going on.
Is there a difference between the harshness of the Lotus and the harshness of combusting? Because that's what my original question was -- is there a real benefit to the Lotus that makes it worth it? I was just curious; I'm not telling anyone else to stop using theirs or anything, so there's no need for all the consternation! It's okay!
 
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Vapodudule

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We really think that you still miss the correct operating. Lotus is not harsh to me, only on overheating

Typically, your flame is too little or too big.

Seeing the vapor is a big step for lotus for controlling, try a J-hook or water tool
 

vorrange

Vapor.wise
You're confusing concern with help. I'm not concerned at all.

The difference is plain to see in the colour and the concentration of carcinogenic compounds, as well as felt in your throat.

And the harshness is higher if you heat it too much. I can have smooth hits easily, especially in the begining of the load. As it gets more done, it is easier to get harsher hits. Hence, technique.


I'm guessing you might be drawing too fast which needs you to heat longer and when the temperature goes higher than a certain threshold, the hits are much harsher.

Draw very slow, pre-heat for 3 seconds, and then 5 more seconds with a flame between 1,5-2cm. Mine is usually 2+ cm actually, and i lower it until the brighter part of the flame "touches" the plate.
 
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