Discontinued The Liquidizer Herb2Vapor System - Safety Butane Extractor & Mini-vaporizer

[NorVape]

Oh yes, traditional hashes have a more rounded and balanced high. No anxiety or headrush, just soothing and relaxing.

I prefer ISO for availability. I can get 96% homemade Norwegian style moonshine, originialy made for drinking with black coffee, but that 's a class a drug in the cities. It is in the countryside as well, but there it's socially accepted.

So I go for the legal and locally available alternative.

 

[severalmore]

Oh yes, traditional hashes have a more rounded and balanced high. No anxiety or headrush, just soothing and relaxing.

I prefer ISO for availability. I can get 96% homemade Norwegian style moonshine, originialy made for drinking with black coffee, but that 's a class a drug in the cities. It is in the countryside as well, but there it's socially accepted.

So I go for the legal and locally available alternative.

That makes sense. And it probably should be a class a drug eh? Uh...where should I go to ask a general question like what is a good RDA coil configuration/build/wick material for drip-vaping ej mix+concentrate? I have a co2oil/ej mix liquid that I'd like to try dripping on my RDA....just curious about flavor/success versus tank cartos and clearos...going on vacay and would like to see if my RDA will make a viable backup in case my tanks fail and I'm left with $120+ worth of +-25% THC vape liquid as my maintenaince medication...cant exactly roll up some foil and combust it...

 

[Monsoon]

I'm curious why qiso seems to remain so much more popular than qwet. Can anyone explain? Is the qiso product that much better? Or is it just the ease and affordability of iso vs ethanol?

The only reason I use ISO over ethanol is cost. To process 1oz of flowers I usually go through 1L of solvent, with ISO it costs $10 vs $50 for ethanol.

 

[severalmore]

I have to say, regarding the Liquidizer ej mix, it really seems to work exactly the same as straight pg...for me. I used a little chunk of shatter and a few drops of ejmix...just to see how it goes. I warmed and stirred, eventually breaking down the shatter into the liquid...and I got exactly what I got using pg and same method...a liquid with grainy stuff in it...ibdont think there is anything wrong with it, I just don't see it performing ANY differently than just pg/warmth/agitation. Maybe its better in a tank? I'm not using a carto, which I've heard is best for this and the separation thing....should I just keep an eye on my liquid and shake up the tank before I vape? What is the particulate? Is it contaminate that doesn't dissolve completely or is it a valuable particle that I should make sure gets in my tank?
I want to be clear I'm not dissing the Liquidizer mix...the peg mix vs pg works better for my thick oil, I don't have to heat just let it sit then shake it up. I'm just curious about this with solid concentrates like shatter and wax, because on my trial run I found my end result to be the same as what I got using straight pg+heat+agitation. What is the limit for heating and not damaging terpenes? Can anyone give me a temp in F°? To stay under?

 

[GR]

Not my experience with using straight PG, it always seperates after a few day while ej-mix does not. With an emulsifier pg and oil can be made much more stable the equipment needed is a few hundred dollars I'd rather spend on vape equipment, lol

 

[r4md4ss]

Tried searching for this but couldn't find much. What voltage do you use for EJmix if you're using VV? Regarding vaping temps, Liquidizer earlier mentioned that the PEG acts as a temp control since it boils at 380 degrees, a good temp for cannabanoids. Am I right in thinking that lower voltages (below 3.7 or 4?) would have difficulty in reaching these temps? Sorry I'm a noob to ecig science.

 

[MaxVapor]

Tried searching for this but couldn't find much. What voltage do you use for EJmix if you're using VV? Regarding vaping temps, Liquidizer earlier mentioned that the PEG acts as a temp control since it boils at 380 degrees, a good temp for cannabanoids. Am I right in thinking that lower voltages (below 3.7 or 4?) would have difficulty in reaching these temps? Sorry I'm a noob to ecig science.

I have made a couple of batches of 50/50 mix for use with vv evod batteries and 2.4 Ohm sapphire carts from gotvapes.com. I use voltages from 3.4v to 4.2v depending on the size of the cloud I am looking for. mostly I stay around 3.6v. Above 4v will start to taste burnt unless I am brief with the button.

 

[severalmore]

I guess what I'm asking-- when I mix ej mix into my errl, I suck some ej mix into a syringe already loaded with oil, then I place it in a cup with keurig water in it...do I have to worry about how hot I am getting my errl when mixing with ej mix? I don't want to damage it. Maybe it's a stupid question, like it would have to be hot enough to melt the syringe, but I don't know and wanted to ask. Weird that I am having VG results with liquidizer, seems to be working so well for everyone else...

 

[spoutti]

@Liquidizer and all

I went through the all the tread. Thanks all for the great infos and sharing hands on experience. I feel I got a new degree in concentrates because of reading this tread haha!

I was curious to know more about purging the butane/ec. I have a few qwet washes under my belt. A couple of them are harsher and I think its because they have too much ec left in. The way I understand the liquidizer tech, the ejmix is a catalyst to the purging process, correct? Can I assume I would get less solvant with the final product compared to 100ish fareinheight degree thin layer qwet purging?

Another question about purging solvents, how is/would the virgin ejuice compare to winterized bho? Or a artisanal qwet like mine?

If the ejmix can act as a catalyst for the purging process for my futur qwet runs, or the liquidizer extraction tech be as solventless as vacuumed bho, im in!

 

[Athanor]

ejmix is just to hold the extract in a solution for vaping. You don't add it until after vacuum purging/evaporating the solvent.

 

[spoutti]

I see I mixed a few steps in my head.. Its that statement from @Liquidizer (maybe others as well?) that lead me to believe it can act as a catalyst in the ethanol purging process:

2) STANDARD EJUICE: Keep the liquid in the beaker in hot water using the purging ring as we allow the ethanol to evaporate off. Add just .1ml - .2ml (10 to 20 drops) of EJmix to aid the ethanol in escaping. In 15 minutes nearly all the ethanol should be gone leaving behind just a strong EJmix/extract blend which is our normal Ejuice. Sample on the infinite wick. This way, while the liquid to be winterized is chilling out, you have Ejuice to keep you entertained and busy. Standard Ejuice is the second variety of concentrate, ready 15-20 minutes after the wax.

I know im far away from reallity wishing this, but I wished there was some data that compare final purity result using the liquidizer tech vs others. Especially the vacuumed bho vs liquidizer tech would be interesting to know.

 

[Athanor]

I think that advice may be to keep the extract from thickening so much the ethanol has trouble physically escaping (easier to bubble out of a liquid than a thick viscous wax). If you only want to use in e-cig gear, that should work, but it seems most people make shatter, for at home, and then mix some of it with ejmix for out and about.

 

[spoutti]

Exactly! At some point during medium layer qwet purging, there is a solid film that forms on top. I see bubbles being trapped. I disrupt the surface with a needle point, poke the bubbles. Constantly. My OCDness never feel satisfied because decarboxylation bubbles start to appear to confuse everything. I can avoid all this with thin layer purging, but it involves more peel and fold work after.

Back to the tread. I would be happy to know how well virgin ejmix compares to traditionnal winterized bho. I think this question interests many medical users. You could go buy badly purged bho, mix it with ejuice on a double boiler to purge it, perfectly?, and then suckit up in a syringe ready to load your favorite delivery device.

It could be an easy no vacuum needed way to purge bho. A good selling argument if this pans out to be true. I would appreciate any inputs from people that used or still use this liquidizer tech as well.

I will apply my learnings from The Celestine Prophecy (James Redfield) and say the bump of this other tread is not a coincidence; others are seriously questionning the purity of their extract. Ejmix might be an easy solution.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/anyone-else-been-getting-lots-of-butane-in-their-waxes.9614/

 

[420time]

Can the ejmix be combined with shatter and then consumed by dropping a bit in a drink or food? Like 30Ejmix/70shatter?

 

[t-dub]

Can the ejmix be combined with shatter and then consumed by dropping a bit in a drink or food? Like 30Ejmix/70shatter?

I suppose it would work as long as your shatter is decarbed.

 

[MuushuPork]

OK so I want to get some ejmix, and I want to mix it with some concentrates. I feel they could be purged more, could I just heat up with ISO and add ejmix and let the ISO evap? Any tips?

 

[Vapodudule]

not ISO but ethanol!

 

[florduh]

That makes sense. And it probably should be a class a drug eh? Uh...where should I go to ask a general question like what is a good RDA coil configuration/build/wick material for drip-vaping ej mix+concentrate? I have a co2oil/ej mix liquid that I'd like to try dripping on my RDA....just curious about flavor/success versus tank cartos and clearos...going on vacay and would like to see if my RDA will make a viable backup in case my tanks fail and I'm left with $120+ worth of +-25% THC vape liquid as my maintenaince medication...cant exactly roll up some foil and combust it...

Right now I pretty much exclusively drip my EJ Juice using RDA's. It will gunk up the coil a bit after a while, but I notice the same thing vaping standard nic juice. It takes about 3 minutes to re-wick with new cotton and dry burn and my setup is back to new. I'm using a mechanical mod with about a 1.0 ohm coil.

My current batch is made with decarbed oil and the taste coming out of my Origen RDA is delicious. Tastes almost like an edible flavored juice.

Tanks are way more convenient but it is hard to go back when you realize just how good your EJ Mix Juice can taste out of a dripper.

 

[BabyFacedFinster]

Can anyone direct me to directions for mixing wax with EJ mix to be used in a cartridge pen? I have read about adding the EJ mx when in the process of finishing a BHO purge, but I need to know more about QWISO wax. Especially where the QWISO is already purged and very dry and flaky. I didn't know the best way to dissolve the wax in the EJ mix such as mixing/heating to get the wax dissolved quick and easy. Help please.

 

[MaxVapor]

Can anyone direct me to directions for mixing wax with EJ mix to be used in a cartridge pen? I have read about adding the EJ mx when in the process of finishing a BHO purge, but I need to know more about QWISO wax. Especially where the QWISO is already purged and very dry and flaky. I didn't know the best way to dissolve the wax in the EJ mix such as mixing/heating to get the wax dissolved quick and easy. Help please.

Since I don't make my own waxes here is what I do with what I purchase. Place about 1ml of EJmix is a very clean shot glass, microwave it for 10 seconds, maybe a few more if your stuff is very solid. When it comes out of the micro immediately put 1g of wax in there and stir with a dabbing tool (or whatever you fancy). This will create approximately a 1:1 mix which I find works well in e-cig carts like the sapphires from gotvapes. Use a short wide syringe to drink it up and load your cart.

 

[NorVape]

Wow, this works!

So it's up to people to decide for them selfes if they feel e-cig juice is a safe alternative to hash, herb or concentrate vaping

 

[NorVape]

Soo... when I vape this in an Emili e-cig (clearomizer, I believe it's called) I have to puff and puff. Admittedly, this is a weak batch, with an high EJMix to wax ratio. It taste a bit weird, but there may be many reasons for this.

Anywayz, today I've been dripping a few drops at a time in an KISS cart using that with the O-PHOS from W9, and it gets me BLASTED. Also, taste is a bit better.

Are people mainly using dripping style pens with this, rather than tanks?

 

[GoGlass]

Hello Guys,

I have planned to make my next EJUICE with : 20% EJMIX and 80 % BHO (first attempt to make a potent EJUICE....).

Can someone advise me what is the best capillary material for vaping such a viscous EJUICE?
(In my atomizer i can use SS Cable, SS Mesh, Cotton, Ekowool, Silica, etc...)

Also about the coil, if you have advices.... Do you think it's better to make a micro-coil or just spaced coils ?

Thanks for your help !

 

[NorVape]

Is the EJMix safe to use as a tincture?

 

[Liquidizer]

Is the EJMix safe to use as a tincture?

Yes! All the glycols used are medical grade and have an extensive history of internal use, however we'd recommend the tinctures to be as concentrated as possible as PEGs have laxatives properties, so oral doses of 10ml of more of EJmix per day will begin to demonstrate those properties.

10ml however is much more than should be needed in a one day period. Assuming a strong daily dose of 1 gram orally per day, only 1 - 2 ml of EJmix should be necessary to dissolve the extract into a liquid.