The HI

jambandphan03

in flavor country
Wow, it looks happy in it's new burl family :) NickDlow

I sent an email to Alan (@toastytop) asking to be put at the end of the wait list, should I get a response, or am I just on the list now? I can't go too long with out a log around here, but wanted to sacrifice for my glass blowing supplies which are rather costly. Getting closer to having a torch set up in my basement :D woot
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
Wow, it looks happy in it's new burl family :) NickDlow

I sent an email to Alan (@toastytop) asking to be put at the end of the wait list, should I get a response, or am I just on the list now? I can't go too long with out a log around here, but wanted to sacrifice for my glass blowing supplies which are rather costly. Getting closer to having a torch set up in my basement :D woot

I recieved an email confirming I was on the list from him.
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
yeah I need a few months to save up, I'm assuming that there is a several month wait time. Most of my extra funds are going to glass gear right now. I can't help but have a touch of VAS while I am going through my GAS LOL Thanks for the fast replies :D I'm excited to see the new design improvements, and have a bit more custom choices, since my first HI was from the classifieds. I have to say, I used that HI daily, and loved having it around, best tasting, most conservative vape I had in my rotation, and always ready to go.
 

DieHard

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I recieved my first Hi from another member yesterday. It's the smallest of my logs and one the the most powerful! Time to break her in some more. Thanks @jambandphan03 I'll be taking good care of it for you.

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Here she is with the rest of my girls.

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Man you are a LOG HOG!
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Now I must get a mop to clean up the puddle of drool.:freak::love::drool::drool::drool:
 

Bvapst

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Can someone explain why there is such a long waiting list for the HI?
Cause it's WORTH IT !
You get on the list and while you wait you can check the thread here from time to time to think if you really want it. I doubt you will say pass when Alan is contacting you after all the Log's dream you will experience. I haven't got a more detailed e-mails discussion in the vapor world than with Alan. I don't think anybody has ever been unsatisfied.

It was a bit more than a year for me too ! I'm not sure you are automatically back on the list after you get your first order, but you can be if asked and it cost nothing.. I did it of course ! I have a glass core and the next one will be some SS.

Thanks for the pictures feed fellow JedHI's roasters.
Special mention to @Stu : could you remember which wood is on the tiny ? BEAUTY ! It was hard for me to not order a tiny bamboo one when I had to choose. But the next one might be on that kind... A few months, only...
 

exit

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I haven't got a more detailed e-mails discussion in the vapor world than with Alan. I don't think anybody has ever been unsatisfied.

I hate to be "that guy", but while I agree with you that alan straight up RULES, i sadly had a sour HI experience.

I was very excited to get my HI initially and went all out with it. However it was finicky from the get go. It would work for 10-20 minutes then mysteriously go cold. Sent it back to get looked at and it came back quickly as Alan found no faults with it off plain 12v charger or a VVPS. Regardless wherever i brought it, it would go cold.

It sat on a shelf unused for about 7 months while i awaited my VK to arrive. i bought it at the same time as my HI so it would be here in time but it took probably almost a year of constant nagging for my VK to arrive, and when it did, it wasn't functional and had to be sent back as well.

By the time i finally had a working setup i probably had the HI for 9 months. i put it through its paces with a finally working VK but shortly after i realized I would be without a way to use my HI reliably I got a different log and used that. I really wanted to love my HI but never got the mindblowing performance out of it I had looked forward too.

maybe it was hyping myself up from all the wait but the glass core was delicious. while the hits tasted great, that was the only thing i could pick out that was any better. no matter how much i pushed the poor little HI the other logs kept outshining it.

maybe it is just user error. it is possible i just never "figured out" how to get the HI to work ideally. maybe everything just went wrong for me. its even possible that the glass core was not for me and i should have got a SS HI like my friend.

after i sent my HI back to alan for him to make sure it was really okay for the last time he wrote back saying it worked great and produced some huge clouds, so i can only assume its either not the cloud blowing monster i thought it would be or i am bad at using it. But, not every vape is for everyone. This one might not be the one for me.

IIRC my friends HI i bought for him has worked flawlessly since we got it but his VK ate the dust too so he just uses it off plain 12v.

Sorry to be a party pooper, i just dont want anyone to think that the HI is the end all be all. That said, i just want to re iterate that alan is the man and my experience dealing with him has been the best and most thorough i've ever experienced. I just wish my HI experience was as good as i had hoped.
 
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chimpybits

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I hate to be "that guy", but while I agree with you that alan straight up RULES, i sadly had a sour HI experience.

I was very excited to get my HI initially and went all out with it. However it was finicky from the get go. It would work for 10-20 minutes then mysteriously go cold. Sent it back to get looked at and it came back quickly as Alan found no faults with it off plain 12v charger or a VVPS. Regardless wherever i brought it, it would go cold.

It sat on a shelf unused for about 7 months while i awaited my VK to arrive. i bought it at the same time as my HI so it would be here in time but it took probably almost a year of constant nagging for my VK to arrive, and when it did, it wasn't functional and had to be sent back as well.

By the time i finally had a working setup i probably had the HI for 9 months. i put it through its paces with a finally working VK but shortly after i realized I would be without a way to use my HI reliably I got a different log and used that. I really wanted to love my HI but never got the mindblowing performance out of it I had looked forward too.

maybe it was hyping myself up from all the wait but the glass core was delicious. while the hits tasted great, that was the only thing i could pick out that was any better. no matter how much i pushed the poor little HI the other logs kept outshining it.

maybe it is just user error. it is possible i just never "figured out" how to get the HI to work ideally. maybe everything just went wrong for me. its even possible that the glass core was not for me and i should have got a SS HI like my friend.

after i sent my HI back to alan for him to make sure it was really okay for the last time he wrote back saying it worked great and produced some huge clouds, so i can only assume its either not the cloud blowing monster i thought it would be or i am bad at using it. But, not every vape is for everyone. This one might not be the one for me.

IIRC my friends HI i bought for him has worked flawlessly since we got it but his VK ate the dust too so he just uses it off plain 12v.

Sorry to be a party pooper, i just dont want anyone to think that the HI is the end all be all. That said, i just want to re iterate that alan is the man and my experience dealing with him has been the best and most thorough i've ever experienced. I just wish my HI experience was as good as i had hoped.
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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My HIbrid has been working flawlessly since April 2014. Since the moment I plugged it in.

My first VK, just as long.

My second VK, a few months now.

My third VK a couple weeks now.

You have to search far and wide to find problems with a HI or a VK, other than one or two people ... over ... how long?

There is no other vaporizer I'd wait more than a year for. That's just me. :shrug:
 

hoptimum

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Sorry to be a party pooper, i just dont want anyone to think that the HI is the end all be all.

Alan said it was working (twice) and now you're implying that theres something wrong with the HI as a vaporizer? I'm sorry, but your story hasn't changed the way I feel about HI or Alan's customer service one iota. Luckily most people on here have enough experience with HI to make up their own mind.
 

exit

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Alan said it was working (twice) and now you're implying that theres something wrong with the HI as a vaporizer? I'm sorry, but your story hasn't changed the way I feel about HI or Alan's customer service one iota. Luckily most people on here have enough experience with HI to make up their own mind.

I could never figure out why mine would randomly decide to stop drawing power, but aside from that no I am not saying there's anything wrong with the HI as a vaporizer. I am just saying i feel like mine was a little weird about drawing power because it seemed like i was -almost- having as good an experience you guys but was not quite there.

I talked with Alan a lot because i refused to give up on my HI+VK for a really long time because he said it worked perfectly every time I sent it to him for testing but i could never get great performance out of it myself. This i will chalk up to user error and simply never figuring out the right way to use the HI.

And i'm not trying to change anyone's mind who has had a good experience with theirs. I really wanted to love my HI+VK and had heard nothing but praise on here so i was a bit disappointed when things just went consistently wrong for me. I had a HI that, only in my own hands apparently, would slowly trickle away voltage draw until it went cold

I hope nobody has misunderstood me about alans customer service which i believe is second to none. I just posted my earlier post partially because i am sad I never got the proper HI experience I wait for for so long (about 2 years if you count me getting on the list, getting my order, and then waiting for a working VK, having to nag for months upon months to get said VK mailed and then finally getting to use the setup)

After about a year of owning both the HI and the VK i decided i was simply not capable of understanding the HI and it was not right for me, or something had went wrong with mine.

All of you who have had flawless HI+VK experiences I am really honestly jealous of you guys and I do honestly believe I never did have a proper HI experience despite owning one for so long. I am still on the list and I really would like to give the HI a second chance because I honestly was shocked i had as many issues as i did. I would like to think i just got enough bad luck for everyone else who loves their HI so every one else flawless units and wonderful experiences.

It is also possible that with the glass core you just get incredibly light extraction and very very light vapor even when you crank it up super super high, but i couldn't get thick heavy clouds still. Every time I sent it back Alan said he blew massive clouds with it so i could never figure out what was so wrong about what I did.

Just my :2c: and I really hope everyone who is currently waiting on a HI/VK loves theirs. I honetsly am still on the list and intend to give HI another shot, but i doubt i will go glass core this time as i feel that might be part of the reason i did not like mine as much as i thought i would. perhaps someone who owns both SS and hybrid can speak to the difference in cloud size, although when i was buying mine it seemed the consensus was there was not much of a difference.
 

exit

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Believe me, in the year+ i owned it i must have tried over a dozen different wall wart adapters. I even traveled to friends houses with a bag full of wall warts and tested with all different ones. However if i lent it to somebody or send it back to alan it would function perfectly.

I had no explanation other than that particular unit had become all my bad karma manifest and as such it would perform perfectly so long as I was not nearby.

AFAIK it has been working great for its new owner as it should be. I hope to work with alan again and get the chance to try again but it was a shame because i really loved and shelled out a lot for the wood block on it. But, as long as it is serving someone well, then it is okay.
 
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JJ420

chillin on the couch, sippin off a 22 ounce.
It is also possible that with the glass core you just get incredibly light extraction and very very light vapor even when you crank it up super super high, but i couldn't get thick heavy clouds still. Every time I sent it back Alan said he blew massive clouds with it so i could never figure out what was so wrong about what I did.

I now (finally) have in my possession the very same hybrid HI you're speaking of here, and I can say it has given me nothing but raving success right out of the box. Dialed in now at 12.95v on the Voltage Keeper, and the resulting extraction is ridiculously even and thorough down to the screen hit after hit. Lighter clouds yes when used in conjunction with my Luke Wilson 54-arm bubbler and Alan's WCT adapter, but the vapor has a much bluer tint and less dense look to it very similar to that of the Nano or SSV.
 
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Bvapst

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@exit I have not much problem with your message. But after all, it is good since it will help people to really measure what they want : Glass-core (aka Hibrid) or SS. I try to feel how difficult it has been for you not being able to give some love. I was going to ask your right away where is that poor HI and I'm happy to see he found some love.
I personally have follow Alan offer to wait for a VK to be in his hands since I'm situated oversea. They both work flawlessly.

I totally assume all my writing of love about my glass core Sting ! I do have a WW log with a regular SS core for comparison but I'm not using it anymore (yet) since I still need new glass stem. I'm going to talk about my WW shortly and then about the glass core :

-I found the SS-core log to be extremely efficient with tiny loads and give a fast extraction ! I could push the load really dark and really easily, so much that sometime a short few seconds hit could make me cough and I'm not the most sensible with vapor harshness. It is definitely perfect to use with water and for a tiny load : 3 huge and short hits.

-I have choose the glass core with not much infos but knew it was taste-wise and sipping-style, in that sense Alan has been really nice to make me wonder if I'm really after that or not. At the start I have to admit I realized the performance are totally different than SS style and was wondering still.. but I got excited with the challenge and rapidly enjoyed it ...
I wouldn't advise a glass core for water filtration since it doesn't deliver vapor the same way and you get such vape for the taste. I wouldn't advise a glass-core for people who have difficulties with vaporizer which need a slow draw.
I'm using my WineCorkTube (I'm soon getting new adapter and tube from Alan and will report about it) not like intended : I use only the down half so I can get closer to the load manually. I have a dot marked on the cork so I know approximately where to hold the limit.
My load is slightly bigger (1.5 or 2 times) bigger than with a SS core. I first get 1 or 2 super long sipping hits : those are super tasty and sometime wispy. Then : light grind material, slightly push it with a toothpick and I draw quite long and slow on the following hits. But those are going to be huge, tasty and still so smooth on the throat. Only then I get that "toasty" taste with a light brown so even abv ! It is nearly impossible to get combustion since the heat is much more smooth so it's much more easy to avoid harsh vapor but you need good lungs to take those long hits. Like JJ420 is saying : the vapor tint is different. I personally love the fact I can sip and read a few lines or watch something without taking care of itchy throat because I'm too gluttonous. Also it gives me the effect I'm mostly looking for. I realized I don't always enjoy when I kill a load dark brownish and a regular SS does this easily. I may use a bit more material with glass-core but I simply enjoy the taste and effect it gives out... ABV is never lost !

Edit : Also I don't think a glass core is the best for concentrate which need a huger heat. Considering the material I sometime dial the VK a bit higher but I really never need to go till 13v. I'm often between 12.22 and 12.69 :p .

Like you said, some vapes are not for everybody and at least people can see this thread is being honest and realist with almost no unsatisfied customer.
 
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