The Herbalizer

nigel

And shepherds we shall be,for Accuracy & Discovery
can the halogen bulb be replaced easily when it burns out?


From what Josh was saying, it isn't really user changeable, but then he mentioned some ungodly MTBF that, for the most part means the majority of users won't have to worry about it. Wish I could remember the actual number of expected hours he said, but it was enough I was no longer concerned about the bulb replacement.
 
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nigel

And shepherds we shall be,for Accuracy & Discovery
I have a halogen lamp and bought extra bulbs

IIRC, the bulb didn't look a thing like a halogen lamp bulb. That being said the basic technology is there, but the Herbie's bulb was a more industrial bulb. (Probably better life and specs than a lamp bulb). Which of course means one can't just buy a lamp bulb if you break the herbie's bulb.
 
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nigel

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My only point was they last. The lamp bulbs are more then likely more fragile which is good news then isn't it?
Nigel...smack...cause you deserved it:D.

You are right that they last. I tried to say that, but add these bulbs are more than "off the shelf lamp" bulbs.
:)

My point was to make clear it wasn't a simple replacement (let alone getting into the damn thing).


And any day I get a "smack" from you , I'll put that in the "good day" column...
:) :p :)
 
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Wizsteve

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I have a halogen lamp and bought extra bulbs but guess what they don't burn out. I think I broke one years ago but that would mean 2 bulbs in like twenty years.

i had lamp that used one and it burned out in less than a month of use .so the bulb is a worry for me
plus these would get more abuse than just being lit.

dust and oils will get on them ,just saying normal bulb life may not apply here. plus there good chance one might put to much oil and a pad and have it drip down.plus the whole thing is exposed to vapors..
so bulb replacements may be needed.and user friendly replacements would set everyone's mind at ease.
 

weedemon

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any word on release dates or pre-order fulfilment yet? I feel like it's been a while since we heard much on that front and it's the main one I am interested in atm! :D
 
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Wizsteve

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These things have been thoroughly tested and IMO shoulld last a long time. :nod:

:peace:


that vid made me even more worried lol.(big fan blowing on them)is heat a issue?

but all i want to know if the bulbs can replaced or are they soldered in?
 
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vtac

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@Wizsteve Check out this blog post where they share some information on the reliability testing they've done. http://www.herbalizer.com/reliability/

The power source is unique, a custom designed 300W quartz halogen heating element. But don’t bulbs break? Yes.. but not these. The same knowhow that ensures reliability in $500MM satellites went into the design, manufacturer selection, handling, lot testing and unit screening of each bulb. Below is a video of an ongoing “life test” for production test. Geek Speak: A statistically significant sample size of bulbs is taken from each lot, and they are stressed at their worst-case failure-inducing conditions to a certain number of hours, and a select few are tested to End Of Life. This methodology is called the Weibull Model.

The particular test shown below has temperature cycled, from cool to hot, to cool to hot, peaking at 1,000⁰F non-stop for well over a month. This equates to about THIRTY YEARS of field use. In other words.. these bulbs will Never need to be replaced.
In the seemingly unlikely event that bulbs do need fixing I'm sure that they will implement a service for it.

@weedemon I'm with you there. I know they're still not cutting any corners on getting this released before it's ready.
 
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orledet

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The hyperbolic marketing-speak used on their website is corny and off-putting, IMO. That kind of overselling just looks bad :tinfoil:

Not impressed by the price either, which could buy me five Extreme Q's. The fact of making hardware is that you can build anything if you throw enough money and "NASA engineers" at it, but there's the concept of price/quality ratio to keep an eye on if you're going to try to compete on the big ol' consumer market.

:horse:
 
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grokit

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I agree on the price, but it seems to me that these guys are going more for the medical device market, which typically features higher markups, more qc, and better cs than consumer products.
 
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luchiano

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The hyperbolic marketing-speak used on their website is corny and off-putting, IMO. That kind of overselling just looks bad :tinfoil:

Not impressed by the price either, which could buy me five Extreme Q's. The fact of making hardware is that you can build anything if you throw enough money and "NASA engineers" at it, but there's the concept of price/quality ratio to keep an eye on if you're going to try to compete on the big ol' consumer market.

:horse:
You may get more extreme q's for the price but, the extreme isn't going to be so close in the temperature dialed in as the herbalizer. That is important for people who want as much purity in vapor they can get without a lot of air diluting the vapor which a vaporizer without good heat control will do. With a proper temperature control, you can get a reproducable effect all the time, as well as control what type of vapor you want easily such as a thick adrenaline rush type or a more smooth psychadelic type.

Plus this vaporizer is the only one that can give a full spectrum hit Quickly without any degradation of most of the lower boiling oils since you can adjust temperature while inhaling, and it stays within 5 degrees of the temperature you set. That is the main reason why I like it.
 

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You may get more extreme q's for the price but, the extreme isn't going to be so close in the temperature dialed in as the herbalizer. That is important for people who want as much purity in vapor they can get without a lot of air diluting the vapor which a vaporizer without good heat control will do. With a proper temperature control, you can get a reproducable effect all the time, as well as control what type of vapor you want easily such as a thick adrenaline rush type or a more smooth psychadelic type.

Plus this vaporizer is the only one that can give a full spectrum hit Quickly without any degradation of most of the lower boiling oils since you can adjust temperature while inhaling, and it stays within 5 degrees of the temperature you set. That is the main reason why I like it.

Thanks, that's a fair reply.

They are using a dirt cheap microchip with a few simple control algorithms on it. It has an algorithm to measure & adjust the temp, one to shut itself off when it tilts or tips, and it has one to dim the LCD-screen's brightness based on ambient light conditions. "The same expertise used to guide the Trident II, run supercomputers and keep satellites on track" went into developing these groundbreaking algorithms, or so the blurb on their site claims.

But to each their own: one of those features may just be what you need, at any cost.

For me.. there is very little to warrant the price tag and/or hyperbolic salestalk.
 
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weedemon

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They are using a dirt cheap microchip with a few simple control algorithms on it.

For me.. there is very little to warrant the price tag and/or hyperbolic salestalk.

I also found it humorous for them to brag that it's got a chip in it that's more powerful than a gaming system that was released in 1988. A computer system that's what, 25 year old? LMAFO...

I also agree with you on the price point. I think it's too high as well. but that said I know nothing about what they have spent on making this project happen. but a $725 price tag is a hard pill to swallow. even at the 650 pre order price I locked in my pre-order at that's hefty. a months rent or this thing? I am lucky enough to have enough of a disposable income set aside for this... but there have been times I have questioned if I will really pull the trigger or not.

that said I am impressed by what I have seen so far. I am eager to try this bad boy out.

for me the main things I am interested in is the precise temp regulation it can do while a person is drawing at different speeds yet maintain it's vaporization at one level. That's amazing IMO.

the fact this may retire my volcano is also pretty promising. There are times where I cannot handle suction and for me to create a vacuum in my mouth. my fave vapes all require decent lung power because they are direct draw. and for this reason the volcano has always been on standby if I didn't have it lent to a friend. I can do this via the bags and the assisted fan fed whip feature. that's also a great feature for me personally.

it's fast to heat up too! really, really fast! a huge plus!

It's also designed to be safely put away quickly after use if I am on the go.
The sublimator is my current vape of choice and it stay at home. I have given up taking it to friends houses. the heat up and cool down time is not something I am willing to tolerate. that's Plus I have to be a vapo tender to everyone so they don't burn themselves/do it wrong. well that's not totally true I have 3 friends who serve themselves... but most people get served.


I guess what Im saying is I can see both sides to this.

Oh and Vtac is one hell of a salesman! haha his posts in here alone spoke to me and made me want this thing yesterday!!!
 
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