The Herbalizer
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jazzyvapeman
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Received my steamroller today from the black friday special. It's pretty awesome, not sure if it's worth the price for me though but I guess I don't regret the purchase. It is super well made, and it basically turns the Herbie into a bong. Seems smoother than bags for sure but not smooth enough above 350 for my lungs as I have asthma, and for that I use a water tool.
For those that really *get* the Herbie and the power of precise temp, is there anything else out there that compares with the incredible, precise extraction?
I had a Volcano and the varying temperature produced varying effects, and the precise nature of the Herbie allows me to completely customize my experience. Take 2K+ strains out there times the temp range of the Herbie and that is what I'd call the weed spectrum.
Did I mention the steamroller turns the Herbie into a bong? Maybe this thing was worth it after all.
For those that really *get* the Herbie and the power of precise temp, is there anything else out there that compares with the incredible, precise extraction?
I had a Volcano and the varying temperature produced varying effects, and the precise nature of the Herbie allows me to completely customize my experience. Take 2K+ strains out there times the temp range of the Herbie and that is what I'd call the weed spectrum.
Did I mention the steamroller turns the Herbie into a bong? Maybe this thing was worth it after all.
Muzzmod 2.0?So I made a 18mm adapter from a wine cork and tried it with a vapexhale hydratube. Another win.
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Here's the direct draw piece @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd made for me. I love it and use it exclusively with my Herbie.
Just got my new Chong's Choice, had a few questions right away about it:
- I ran it with an empty bowl and no whip attached at the highest temperature with the fan on, and noticed a slight metallic/electronic smell. Is this expected or something other users experience as well? If I inhaled this air stream I couldn't necessarily taste what I was smelling in the air, so I wasn't certain if I should be concerned.
- Using the whip I notice a faint silicone taste, is that common at first?
- Without the fan manually enabled, I noticed the fan turns on by itself periodically, presumably to adjust the temperature. What surprised me about it, however, is that it results in air being pushed through the bowl too, as if I had manually enabled the fan. So this kind of wastes some vapor sometimes, if the fan automatically decides to turn on and I'm not actively inhaling at that moment. I thought if it was turning on the fan to regulate the internal temperature it might do so in a way that doesn't push air through the bowl, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Is this expected behavior?
Haven't tried the steam roller yet, slightly nervous I'm not getting the best smells/tastes right off the bat (wondering if I might have a defective unit).
- I ran it with an empty bowl and no whip attached at the highest temperature with the fan on, and noticed a slight metallic/electronic smell. Is this expected or something other users experience as well? If I inhaled this air stream I couldn't necessarily taste what I was smelling in the air, so I wasn't certain if I should be concerned.
- Using the whip I notice a faint silicone taste, is that common at first?
- Without the fan manually enabled, I noticed the fan turns on by itself periodically, presumably to adjust the temperature. What surprised me about it, however, is that it results in air being pushed through the bowl too, as if I had manually enabled the fan. So this kind of wastes some vapor sometimes, if the fan automatically decides to turn on and I'm not actively inhaling at that moment. I thought if it was turning on the fan to regulate the internal temperature it might do so in a way that doesn't push air through the bowl, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Is this expected behavior?
Haven't tried the steam roller yet, slightly nervous I'm not getting the best smells/tastes right off the bat (wondering if I might have a defective unit).
The Herbalizer should periodically sample the air temps by pulsing the fan. This is normal and doesn't really waste that much vapour.
I would recommend running your herb chamber dry for a few fan cycles at high heat to get it broken in. The whip will stop tasting and smelling shortly after you start to use it.
I would recommend running your herb chamber dry for a few fan cycles at high heat to get it broken in. The whip will stop tasting and smelling shortly after you start to use it.
yadoofer
Member
I've read here that one can buy an adapter or maybe an adapter and elbow that allows for horizontal filling of the bags. Now I'll go back over every entry if I must(read every page but didn't take notes). Maybe someone has the lowdown on this and can give me a clue as to how to do. Thanks.
kcmochris
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There was a post (or few) about this. One recommendation was using an elbow (like this Arizer one: http://www.vapornation.com/arizer-elbow-adapter.html), with a 14mm adapter.
yadoofer
Member
Thanks. They seem to be out of stock, but I will check back with them. That's the ticket.
Radiocitysuicide
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http://www.puffitup.com/Arizer-Elbow-Adapter-p/arz.ext-107_elbo.htm
You can get them various places.
WeAreVenom
I vote for marijuana
Hello, I am new to the forums and the herbalizer but not vaping (sort of). I vaped before about 2 years ago with the Magic Flight but I found it frustrating and hard to use (contrary to most of the internet). A few weeks ago I started to look into desktop vapes because I wanted to conserve my weed. I was really using too much weed rolling Backwoods every day. I am a major stoner with a really high tolerance.
I am 25 years old and have been smoking every day for the past nine years. One day it was cold as shit and I didn't feel like walking to the gas station (my car was totaled in an accident) to get backwoods, and I found my Magic Flight in my shoebox with my other paraphernalia (bowls, papers, bubblers, etc.) along with that shitty water pipe whip. I watched a video on how to actually use it and get good draws then BAM! It fucking worked! I was hooked on vaping! I felt so clear headed and relieved with less than a quarter of the weed I put in my blunts. I was rolling 1.5G backwoods! My lungs are thanking me as I type this right now. Also, the smell! You hardly smell anything at all when you vape with this thing! I was high as shit at social services and nobody said anything to me because I didn't smell.
That's when I knew it was time to say, "fuck combustion". I started doing research and looking for the best desktop vape that would suit my needs. I wanted a whip style vape more than anything but I also wanted the option to use bags because who doesn't like versatility? Then I came across the herbalizer! It was everything I wanted and needed, however the price was CRAZY!!!!!! But I caught it on the Cyber Monday sale. I ended up getting the Chong's Choice for only $400. I put a sticker on it because Tommy Chong's name is a dead fucking giveaway (I prefer to be discreet with my cannabis consumption), and I have to say I am impressed so far. It's not only worth the price I paid, I personally believe it's worth its original pricing. This thing really offers relief by design.
I tried all the temperature settings, but intense is by far my favorite setting to use. I have to use balanced when I have things to do during the day (because intense is really fucking intense, they're not lying). I probably will eventually by a regular herbie (for the aromatherapy). I really enjoy the whip and the bags about the same. I love filling a bag with vapor and I love hitting the whip like a hookah while I watch TV.
But my favorite way to use it is to take that shitty water pipe whip from magic flight and hook it to my bong. While the whip is ass for the magic flight, it is amazing for the herbie!
I removed the bowl coupling from the white whip and put it in my pipe whip. I did this to prevent oil from getting on the end of the whip:
Then I hooked it up to my bong:
Makes the vapor at max temperature so smooth (I barely cough), and then I cool it down with the ice. It's amazing. Glass+Vapor = one hell of a good time. I might buy the steamroller in the future just to support the company. I always loved smoking out of glass when I used to combust.
Tommy Chong said, "I'm just glad I can make a difference in someone's life". He definitely did with me! I am happy to say I have made Chong's Choice my choice. Happy vaping to you all this holiday season.
It feels good to spend this kind of money and not have any regrets.
I am 25 years old and have been smoking every day for the past nine years. One day it was cold as shit and I didn't feel like walking to the gas station (my car was totaled in an accident) to get backwoods, and I found my Magic Flight in my shoebox with my other paraphernalia (bowls, papers, bubblers, etc.) along with that shitty water pipe whip. I watched a video on how to actually use it and get good draws then BAM! It fucking worked! I was hooked on vaping! I felt so clear headed and relieved with less than a quarter of the weed I put in my blunts. I was rolling 1.5G backwoods! My lungs are thanking me as I type this right now. Also, the smell! You hardly smell anything at all when you vape with this thing! I was high as shit at social services and nobody said anything to me because I didn't smell.
That's when I knew it was time to say, "fuck combustion". I started doing research and looking for the best desktop vape that would suit my needs. I wanted a whip style vape more than anything but I also wanted the option to use bags because who doesn't like versatility? Then I came across the herbalizer! It was everything I wanted and needed, however the price was CRAZY!!!!!! But I caught it on the Cyber Monday sale. I ended up getting the Chong's Choice for only $400. I put a sticker on it because Tommy Chong's name is a dead fucking giveaway (I prefer to be discreet with my cannabis consumption), and I have to say I am impressed so far. It's not only worth the price I paid, I personally believe it's worth its original pricing. This thing really offers relief by design.
I tried all the temperature settings, but intense is by far my favorite setting to use. I have to use balanced when I have things to do during the day (because intense is really fucking intense, they're not lying). I probably will eventually by a regular herbie (for the aromatherapy). I really enjoy the whip and the bags about the same. I love filling a bag with vapor and I love hitting the whip like a hookah while I watch TV.
But my favorite way to use it is to take that shitty water pipe whip from magic flight and hook it to my bong. While the whip is ass for the magic flight, it is amazing for the herbie!
I removed the bowl coupling from the white whip and put it in my pipe whip. I did this to prevent oil from getting on the end of the whip:
Then I hooked it up to my bong:
Makes the vapor at max temperature so smooth (I barely cough), and then I cool it down with the ice. It's amazing. Glass+Vapor = one hell of a good time. I might buy the steamroller in the future just to support the company. I always loved smoking out of glass when I used to combust.
Tommy Chong said, "I'm just glad I can make a difference in someone's life". He definitely did with me! I am happy to say I have made Chong's Choice my choice. Happy vaping to you all this holiday season.
It feels good to spend this kind of money and not have any regrets.
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@WeAreVenom
Should you find that your herbie has more draw resistance than you want you can replace the small diameter whip with a silicone one that will slip over the herbchamber stem. You can then use a 10mm male gong to slide in the other end of the tube for water pieces.( I use a 10mm male to 14mm male glass adapter for my bong).
Should you find that your herbie has more draw resistance than you want you can replace the small diameter whip with a silicone one that will slip over the herbchamber stem. You can then use a 10mm male gong to slide in the other end of the tube for water pieces.( I use a 10mm male to 14mm male glass adapter for my bong).
WeAreVenom
I vote for marijuana
I was actually thinking about that. I did some googling, I didn't know you can buy the glass piece by itself. I would much rather use the whip the herbie gave me due to the length. Didn't think it was possible! I have no problem with draw resistance. I wish I could remove the gong from my magic flight whip instead. Shit is fucking terrible.
I learn something new every day.
You can get 3/8" ID platinum cured, food grade, high temp silicone tubing rather than using the Herbalizer tubing. So rather than using the plastic piece that mates to the herb chamber, slip the larger 3/8" tubing over the stem completely. This greatly increases flow as the mouth piece and the plastic whip piece that go into the original whip tubing are very restrictive.
A 10mm male gong will just fit in the tubing enough that it won't slide out.
WeAreVenom
I vote for marijuana
Can you link me to a good site that I could buy such an item?
With that said, I did get to purchase that 10mm-14mm male to male adapter piece. You fucking changed my life with that suggestion. I was able to obtain one quite easily at my local headshop. I had to work with what I had. While the herbalizer tubing may not be that great...it was way better than the magic flight. I'm high as fuck.
The greater length allows me to sit in bed comfortably and take huge rips. I almost fell asleep with the bong in my hand attached to the Herbalizer. While I'm sure the tube you suggested is far superior to the stock tube, I had to work with what I had. Getting that 10-14mm male to male piece really enhanced my experience. So I thank you for that.
Now I just have to deal with my friends not understanding me once again...le sigh.
sixstringsmash
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http://delta3dstudios.com/high-temperature-silicon-hose-3-8inch-id/
It's made by our very own @Ratchett and a lot of folks here(myself included) will be able to attest to the quality of anything he sells.
WeAreVenom
I vote for marijuana
I will buy this as soon as I have the money.
Any other accessories recommended for this mighty fine vaporizer? The whip/pipe attachment is going to come in so much handy when my bags are no longer any good. Herbalizer bags are expensive as all fuck. I need to buy new screens too. Do regular pipe screens fit the herbalizer, or do I need to get them directly from the site?
What's the benefit of having an additional magnetic bowl? I figure you can only use one bowl at a time...so why bother with an extra one? I was still going to get one because I always buy extra's of anything that I own.
I still can't believe how amazing this thing is. I am still in utter shock at how quick it heats up and I have owned it for about one week now. The only thing is I can't compare it to any other vaporizer because this is the only one I have owned and used.
One more question, is the hydratube for the vapexhale compatible with this? I think that shit looks so cool and I would love to have one. I want that hydrabomb!!!!
Justpassedu
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Just from browsing the thread which i highly recommend & have a herbalizer on the way to me shortly i can try and answer a few of your questions. Reg pipe screens do not fit but they can be cut down to size like any screen and made to fit . There are also a few how to's floating around the web on cheaper/better options for replacing the bags. Having a additional bowl is great for when it's time to clean so there is no down time in between while soaking your's in some iso. Also great for a quick second session or if multiple guests are partaking with you. Me personally , i got a 2nd one for those reasons along with dedicating one for concentrate use and one for flowers. The Hydratube from vapexhale will fit with a adapter , you will need one of these - http://delta3dstudios.com/herbalizer-vaporizer-18mm-waterpipe-adapter/ . Please try and read through the thread , there is a wealth of info and most of your questions will get answered along with most likely learning allot tips & tricks .
Southern Chef
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The hydrabomb is great with the EVO but I would recommend the Steamroller for the herbie. It really is amazing....takes the herbie to the next level.
@WeAreVenom
The tubing @sixstringsmash linked you is the stuff you're looking for. Go ahead and look at the other vape stuff that is on the site while you're at it.
If you're looking for bag replacements you should look at the volcano solid valve system. It is a definite upgrade over the Herbalizer bags but has a draw back of having to be held down over the stem. I modified my solidvalve with an Herbalizer squeeze valve so that I wouldn't have to hold it down. If you're handy with some pliers, a small saw and a bit of wire you can perform the same mod I did. I made a post a while back in this thread about how to do it.
I don't think you need an extra herb chamber at all as it's not too hard to clean in the first place. Something that can really save you cleaning the top screen all the time is a pipe screen bent into dome shape.
Take a normal pipe screen, bend it into a dome so it will sit in the flare of the herb chamber. This will sit on top of your weed and prevent it from clogging the top screen. The added benefit is that this also increases flow through herb chamber, since weed isn't able to plug the top screen.
The tubing @sixstringsmash linked you is the stuff you're looking for. Go ahead and look at the other vape stuff that is on the site while you're at it.
If you're looking for bag replacements you should look at the volcano solid valve system. It is a definite upgrade over the Herbalizer bags but has a draw back of having to be held down over the stem. I modified my solidvalve with an Herbalizer squeeze valve so that I wouldn't have to hold it down. If you're handy with some pliers, a small saw and a bit of wire you can perform the same mod I did. I made a post a while back in this thread about how to do it.
I don't think you need an extra herb chamber at all as it's not too hard to clean in the first place. Something that can really save you cleaning the top screen all the time is a pipe screen bent into dome shape.
Take a normal pipe screen, bend it into a dome so it will sit in the flare of the herb chamber. This will sit on top of your weed and prevent it from clogging the top screen. The added benefit is that this also increases flow through herb chamber, since weed isn't able to plug the top screen.
jazzyvapeman
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I have both a hydrabomb and the steamroller. The hydrabomb has leaked water into the Herbie a couple times, luckily he's still going strong. I recently got the steamroller and it's amazing. Only thing I don't like is that it's not bent. I've actually perfected a technique of holding the Herbie slightly sideways so I can use the steamroller sitting down (I have big hands). But yea, steamroller all the way, gets me super ripped similar to a bong, and is super smooth.
What size pipe screen works best? Would you recommend stainless or brass?
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
It should not leak any water at all unless you are doing something wrong or have a defective ht , make sure your not filling the overflow chamber at the bottom with any water. I never had a problem with any of my vapexhale ht's leaking.
jazzyvapeman
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I might be overfilling it...when it has happened it's because I created some sort of suction, perhaps I exhaled a bit accidently.
I get a much better draw from the steamroller, and since it's so smooth I don't find a need to water cool unless I'm on high temps. For that I just fill a bag and run it through the hydrabomb.