The Herbalizer

[Buddy951]

We have had Herbie for a week now and its awesome. Trying to convert my wife from a combuster to a vaporizer and I think Herbie may do it. I was surprised she likes the whip as much as she has. She has always been a bong user. She hated my other vapes because she has difficulty drawing due to lung problems but the fan assist works great. Fast startup is a huge plus for her.

She may grow tired of the whip and she dislikes bags so;

If I want to mate my Cloud hydratube with the Herbie is this the right adapter?

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/glas...ers/alt-14-18-mm-low-pro-reducer-adapter.html

 

[macbill]

@Buddy951

EDIT:
Actual Tube Size:
White SiliconeTubing, 3/8"ID, 1/2"OD, 1/16" Wall
That is what I used on the photo above: a 18mmF to 14mmf. The tube I used is silicone: White SiliconeTubing, 3/8"ID, 1/2"OD, 1/16" Wall. It also slips over the Herbie's output port. If you don't mind being close to Herbie, you'd only need 2 inches or less of tubing.

 

[John Lewus]

Does anyone use or have concerns about using a herbalizer with a Wemo? Let me explain my thought behind this before people ask the obvious question.. Why.

In my man cave room I have a 6 outlet power splitter hooked up to a wemo so I can turn my "mood" lighting and EVO on at the same time from my phone. I like to turn it on when downstairs so my EVO is more ready when I come up. It is much more convenient to put the herbie on the same power strip so I would essentially be cutting power completely to it when I turn off the wemo. I also thought I read the herbie consumed a few watts of power even in idle so I am not sure if cutting power every night to it could cause issues. It should not but this is gong to be my new baby so I want to take care of it.

My herbie arrives tomorrow and I can't wait.

 

[Buddy951]

macbill: I forgot to type my response. Thanks!

 

[nigel]

I bought a MassDrop Herbie, and now I'm afraid, very afraid. MassDrop Andy warrants my Herbie through MassDrop, but the likelihood of MassDrop (Limited Liability Corporations are people, too) still being alive when warranty issues arise is problematic.

I too am suspicious of their long term ability to provide support. The site page only lists the 2 year, although the Limited Edition has the extended 5 year on it.

HOWEVER, the good folk in customer service (at Herbalizer) have already said they would make a ONE-TIME exception for the first batch sold through MD. They certainly didn't have to make that exception, but they were concerned about the customers that didn't know that wasn't legit. Most other companies just say flat out no.

So you should be covered straight by Herbie. Just save your receipt.

[The current MD has been pulled, so there should be any issue going forward.]

Does anyone use or have concerns about using a herbalizer with a Wemo?

I think you should be okay. In essence, you are asking "what happens if the plug gets suddenly pulled". That's a real world condition, which I can not imagine hasn't been tested. There is nothing that needs to be written to memory (eg, computer), so loosing power state should be fine.

Now, to be clear, I said I *THINK*. I don't know for sure one way or another, but I think it is good that you have shown this as a concern before engaging in the behavior. Your EVO hasn't had issues, correct?

 

[macbill]

OK. It's true: I'm just playing around with the Herbie. Here is a shot with the dry VapeXhale tube.

 

[Buddy951]

macbill: Thanks for posting the photo of the dry Vapexhale tube. Is the adapter sitting right on top of the Herbie output or do you have a piece of silicon tubing between the adapter and the output? I can't really tell by looking at your photo.

 

[macbill]

I used about an 1.25" long silicone tube. Here is a photo. The Herbie nozzle sits a bit inside the GonG lip, but it is the tube that keeps them together

Assembled

 

[jds32]

I like to turn it on when downstairs so my EVO is more ready when I come up. It is much more convenient to put the herbie on the same power strip so I would essentially be cutting power completely to it when I turn off the wemo. I also thought I read the herbie consumed a few watts of power even in idle so I am not sure if cutting power every night to it could cause issues. It should not but this is gong to be my new baby so I want to take care of it.

Yes, the clam is a vampire. However, I think as long as you turn it off first (closing the lid will work), you should be fine cutting off power.

My power meter (kill-a-watt) showed no evidence of anything other than stand by power draw with the unit off. That was tested on one of the very first units. My current unit does seem to make different sounds, so perhaps it's worth checking to see if there's any possibility it would want to use a fan to control cooling down? It seems unlikely to me though.

 

[Mrmrmrmr]

My VAS has never been so bad. Damn you Herbie ! But at the same time

 

[Buddy951]

Thanks macbill!

 

[fonzerelli]

Hello! I just got my Herbalizer in and wanted to find out what the smallest load sizes are that this unit can manage to do effectively and efficiently. I believe I read on Vapecritic that he goes as low as 150mg, but can this vape do lower amounts well?

Thank you!

 

[green2brown]

Hello! I just got my Herbalizer in and wanted to find out what the smallest load sizes are that this unit can manage to do effectively and efficiently. I believe I read on Vapecritic that he goes as low as 150mg, but can this vape do lower amounts well?

Thank you!

It can do as little as you want, IME. Your best bet is to play around with it, start with the bare minimum you desire and add to it from there until you get the results you want. Enjoy your new friend!

 

[King]

Does anyone use or have concerns about using a herbalizer with a Wemo? Let me explain my thought behind this before people ask the obvious question.. Why.

In my man cave room I have a 6 outlet power splitter hooked up to a wemo so I can turn my "mood" lighting and EVO on at the same time from my phone. I like to turn it on when downstairs so my EVO is more ready when I come up. It is much more convenient to put the herbie on the same power strip so I would essentially be cutting power completely to it when I turn off the wemo. I also thought I read the herbie consumed a few watts of power even in idle so I am not sure if cutting power every night to it could cause issues. It should not but this is gong to be my new baby so I want to take care of it.

My herbie arrives tomorrow and I can't wait.

Unfortunatly this doesn't completely answer your question, but be careful using a power strip connected to the WeMo.

"All Belkin Chargers must be plugged directly into a properly wired AC power line or standard 12v DC power source and must not be "daisy-chained" together in serial fashion with other power strips, UPSes, surge protectors, other charging products, three-to-two-prong adapters, or extension cords. Any such installation voids this warranty."

http://www.belkin.com/us/cew/

 

[Engineer]

When life gets heavy, I mean, really heavy, many people make a choice, between alcohol and cigarettes, or marijuana. Five days ago the motherload was dropped on me. Denial, anger, negotiating, depression - you name it - each of these emotions that bind us as human beings, reached a ten out of ten.
I am not a 'medical,' or a sickly person, but for the last five days I have been a patient. If it weren't for cannabis I might have slashed tires, broken teeth and ended up in jail. Instead I medicated. As a patient of the human experience.
I ate 10mg gummy bears and herbalized half a green bottle of toasted ABV. Vape, eat, bathe, sleep, vape, cry and breathe but don't throw up, sleep, and so on. During this experience I found myself accelerating towards acceptance; and I solved problems. I saw with clarity available only in deep trance pieces to a puzzle of a game I didn't know I was playing. I saw what was missing. I saw the betrayal. After denial and anger subsided I felt bad for Nameless. Nameless is frightened and made bad decisions. Nameless should have used the Herbalizer more, instead of hitting the bottle. With my heart bleeding I say good-bye to nameless.
This is the Herbalizer thread, so I know I can be real and respected for that. FUCK THIS SHIT. FUCK the egos. Fuck the greed.And fuck those who lie and deceive to meet their self-centered agenda. And most of all, fuck the fear that brings it all about.
I used the Herbalizer at 410F, two long draws, followed by a wicked hot bath in absolute darkness, and frankincense essential oil. No, I do not use the aromatherapy function. In the hot bath I stay 20 minutes longer than I should, and see, without judgement, behind the curtain. My conclusion? "These tears no longer work here."
I really love my Herbie. This week I needed 410F. Different needs, different temps, not for rookies. i vape like a BOSS.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

When life gets heavy, I mean, really heavy, many people make a choice, between alcohol and cigarettes, or marijuana. Five days ago the motherload was dropped on me. Denial, anger, negotiating, depression - you name it - each of these emotions that bind us as human beings, reached a ten out of ten.
I am not a 'medical,' or a sickly person, but for the last five days I have been a patient. If it weren't for cannabis I might have slashed tires, broken teeth and ended up in jail. Instead I medicated. As a patient of the human experience.
I ate 10mg gummy bears and herbalized half a green bottle of toasted ABV. Vape, eat, bathe, sleep, vape, cry and breathe but don't throw up, sleep, and so on. During this experience I found myself accelerating towards acceptance; and I solved problems. I saw with clarity available only in deep trance pieces to a puzzle of a game I didn't know I was playing. I saw what was missing. I saw the betrayal. After denial and anger subsided I felt bad for Nameless. Nameless is frightened and made bad decisions. Nameless should have used the Herbalizer more, instead of hitting the bottle. With my heart bleeding I say good-bye to nameless.
This is the Herbalizer thread, so I know I can be real and respected for that. FUCK THIS SHIT. FUCK the egos. Fuck the greed.And fuck those who lie and deceive to meet their self-centered agenda. And most of all, fuck the fear that brings it all about.
I used the Herbalizer at 410F, two long draws, followed by a wicked hot bath in absolute darkness, and frankincense essential oil. No, I do not use the aromatherapy function. In the hot bath I stay 20 minutes longer than I should, and see, without judgement, behind the curtain. My conclusion? "These tears no longer work here."
I really love my Herbie. This week I needed 410F. Different needs, different temps, not for rookies. i vape like a BOSS.

Sending you good vibes!

 

[Vitolo]

Hello! I just got my Herbalizer in and wanted to find out what the smallest load sizes are that this unit can manage to do effectively and efficiently. I believe I read on Vapecritic that he goes as low as 150mg, but can this vape do lower amounts well?

Thank you!

You have the Herbalizer there with you.
Get busy!
We are waiting for you to tell us how little of a load you can do!

 

[fonzerelli]

You have the Herbalizer there with you.
Get busy!
We are waiting for you to tell us how little of a load you can do!

Fair nuff!

First try was with a tad under 150mg and it worked fine. No, it worked awesome. I think I'm in love with this thing.

The reason I asked was because I was using the Pax and the Plenty before, both of which need pretty tight bowl packs.

 

[Vicki]

The reason I asked was because I was using the Pax and the Plenty before, both of which need pretty tight bowl packs.

Don't pack the Herbie bowl tight. It works better if the herb is loose in the bowl.

 

[goatgobaahh]

Smaller loads are a treat! I find the smaller the pinch of herbs the more effective extraction.

I actually measure my usage this way. 3 sprinkles before a work out 10 for bed time.

Easy! Thorough dark extraction nice some nice milky hits. What happened to the thread discussing people's experiences with temp ranges?

What temps do people get nice clouds at? I find at 380F+ you get some great clouds.

Honestly I love using different techniques to get different results for different scenarios.

When my heavy smoker friends come over I know to put the aromapads on top of a 3/4 full bowl at 445F to get them nice and medicated.

For my workouts smaller amounts at 380F+
For sleep small loads at 445F

Temps lower then 360 whenever I've got nothing to do

I'm interested to learn other people's usage.

 

[fonzerelli]

Thanks for the input goat!

I'm trying to read through this entire thread, but it's going to take awhile. One thing I'd like to know is how many good solid hits/draws do you get off one bag full?

 

[macbill]

It depends if you got "swimmers' lungs" - huge capacity lungs, or mouse lungs, or the bags are so dense you can't see light through them or so light as to seem without vapor.

OK, that light thing is an exaggeration, but you get my meaning.
.

 

[Vinnie01]

Before buying an SSV whip, try removing the mouthpiece on the stock whip. It performs much better that way. Still, the SSV whip is slightly better buy I find myself using the stock one (minus the mouth piece) because it fits nicely in the unit for storage

I was using the solo outside the other day .. And the comparison really made me appreciate the herbie. You can get through sessions much quicker with a herbie ... The solo was taking forever (I had forgotten what it was like)

 

[Buddy951]

Had Herbie a couple weeks now and my wife is really liking it. She has numerous medical issues but one of her biggest complaints is constant pain. Any advice on temp to help alleviate pain without getting her really high? Works great for sleep but during the day she needs to function a little better.

 

[Terpenoid]

I find I've gotten decent clouds starting at 360F with some herb, but 380F seems to be the money spot for the majority of the flowers I vape. I like to keep my temps below 420F most of the time, I'll bump it up to 445F at night when I need that sedative effect.

As for bags, I can finish one off in three big hits if I want to, but usually its more like six or eight. Herbie is so versatile that you can really just experiment with whatever works best for you(Once you get an 18mm GonG figured out you'll really be set). With the accurate temperature control and quick heat up time it's easy to duplicate results. With a consistent grind and bowl pack I know what to expect from my session.

I think Herbie is really easy for anyone to use right out of the box, but once you spend some time with it and get to know its nuances, that's when it really shines. I feel it's something like a barista learning to pull a perfect shot of espresso. Only I imagine herbie is a lot more forgiving.

On a side note I think it's been mentioned before but I've been preheating my bowl lately. I turn the unit on 445F and blast the fan with an empty bowl while I grind my herb and get ready. Then when the fan stops I turn Herbie down to around 360-380F and fill the bowl. Seems like it gives you a bit of conduction with the convection and makes for thicker more flavourful hits right from the start.

I've had Herbie less than two months but I can definitely say I am a very happy customer. I have put this thing through its paces and it hasn't so much as stumbled yet. One thing I have noticed is that combustion is possible under a certain condition...

While the unit is heating up and is set to 445F, if there is a bag on the bowl and you try to squeeze any excess air out before the unit is fully heated it seems to trick the sensor into thinking it's cooler than it actually is. After squeezing some trapped air out while the unit was heating and the bowl and bag were attached I have combusted twice(no ash exactly, but black ABV and a bad taste). This didn't seem to have any effect on the unit in the long run and Herbie is still functioning perfectly.

I see people post about how herbie has cured their VAS. With this being my first vaporizer and all the great information here on FC I think I may have caught VAS... and GAS. I picked up a D020 because of all the praise it receives here and I love it. Right now with my current budget I've got my eye on the Lotus, and Daisy, I just can decide between them. But that's another topic.

And now it's time to herbalize! I think I'm in the mood for a bag at 420.