The Herbalizer

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
I have no evidence to back this up, other then my experience. I have tried to vaporizer other herbs before and it always left the bags/whips very smelly and full of residual oil.

All of my experiences are with short vapour paths, which I think makes a big difference. Whips are vulnerable to acquiring a taste simply because the longer path provides more area for vapour to condense out. Bags—well, bags taste like shit warmed over to me after the first couple of uses, so I have no doubt at all they'd be quick to acquire a flavour.
 

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
All of my experiences are with short vapour paths, which I think makes a big difference. Whips are vulnerable to acquiring a taste simply because the longer path provides more area for vapour to condense out. Bags—well, bags taste like shit warmed over to me after the first couple of uses, so I have no doubt at all they'd be quick to acquire a flavour.

I would stick to the whip if I was "herbalizing" since it is likely to stay cleaner longer then a bag.

Interestingly about the whip.... they thought about the length of the hose versus the temperature of the vapor. I found the hose length to be almost spot on. It even stayed relatively clean during extended use... particularly when I compare it to all my other whip vaporizers. The vapor coming out of the mouthpiece with the air assist was cool to the touch. I ran it over the soft tissue of my lips to see if it would hurt at all, and nothing pain wise. There was some condensation of oils/etc at the end near the mouth piece which to me indicated that the temperature was getting to the point where the vapor was starting to condense stick.

As everyone knows I like my water filtration. What struck me as interesting was the fact that I enjoyed the dry whip so much. I was getting HUGE and super smooth dry hits out of the whip. I might actually use this device dry from time to time. Which is something I normally never do... I am almost always trying to adapt what ever I am using to filter through some water.
 

1_gr8_underdog

Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
Oooo, goody. Let me be the first (ok, second to vtac) to congratulate all those whose entries made the to 10. Gratz.........:clap::rockon::clap:
Congrats all! Good luck and good contest.

All of these messages will be added into production Herbalizers and displayed randomly upon startup. Congratulations to the finalists, and thank you to everyone who entered!
Thank you.

I am very honored to have my messages chosen to be displayed. :bowdown: Also to be a finalist in the drawing to win Herbie!

Congratulations to dormouse,EveryDayAmnesiac,Reflections,UpUpandAway,placetime,pakalolo,Tweek, and Deadshort480! And Good luck :tup:
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
As happy as I am to be a part of the Top 10, I know that MANY people came up with my entry not long after I did. Sorry, dudes; I had a lot of free time that day. As I do most days.

But it's a victory for us all... except, to be more EXACT, it was a victory for just me. :D

Gotta love its simplistic, minimalistic, unassuming beauty.

Frankly, I thought THIS entry would have been the instant winner. :ko:

I do want this thing like fucking crazy (LIKE FUCKING CRAZY!!!), as I need any kind of healing power I can get, but I think everyone would benefit more if one of The Elders got it instead. I know that sounds wicked gruesome phony, but... it is what it is, I guess. :(

I do promise this, though: if I win, I am buying a better fucking camera and am spreading the sickest, nastiest, gut-wrenching-est, soul-haunting-est Herbalizer porn you could ever hope to imagine, hard and long, fast and faster, day and night, until you're all spent out of your fleshy little gords. And even then, I am going to wrap my hands around this thing's hilt, tease you all mercilessly with a few sexy details, and then make you beg for the next photo until your alert box moans, "EveryDayAmnesiac replied to the thread The Herbalizer" and you explode with joy all over FC. :uhoh:

You won't know what hit you. It'll be great. And all your friends will be so jealous. :cool:

Er, anyway. Good luck, other 8 finalists!

Other 8? What??? Someone had two entries make it??!! :bang:

:lol:

In all seriousness, I just had a buttload of fun with this contest. I think we all did.
 

darkrom

Great Scott!
I'm curious to see how this performs. I haven't been interested in a home vape since I got my cloud, but the NASA gimmick really has me interested haha.

Was a price point ever mentioned? Because this does bags and whips, the 2 things I don't do with the cloud. Not sure I need them, but for the right price they may be nice to have as options.
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
I hope none of you win! :argh:

YOU... seem to have a problem with PORN... Must go all the way back to when you were an embryo... :myday:

Frankly, it all sounds like a thread-starter to me... :p

Enchantre was right. This dude is TOTALLY tossing one off... :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

What LOVESICK SICKO came up with THAT emoticon? I'm lookin' at YOU, Mods... :D

Well, actually, it looks like ME... with my future Herbalizer... :smug:

Anyway. For FRAK'S sake, PLEASE tell us who won so we can start "like"-ing every one of that person's posts for FUTURE GAIN... :lol:
 

vtac

vapor junkie
Staff member
Enchantre was right. This dude is TOTALLY tossing one off... :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

What LOVESICK SICKO came up with THAT emoticon? I'm lookin' at YOU, Mods... :D
That's Dr. Doom. You're looking for this one:
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Anyway. For FRAK'S sake, PLEASE tell us who won so we can start "like"-ing every one of that person's posts for future gain... :lol:
Last time I checked it wasn't the weekend yet. :D

I'm digging the colorful text, but a friendly reminder that white text will be invisible to people using forum styles with white backgrounds.

All of my experiences are with short vapour paths, which I think makes a big difference. Whips are vulnerable to acquiring a taste simply because the longer path provides more area for vapour to condense out. Bags—well, bags taste like shit warmed over to me after the first couple of uses, so I have no doubt at all they'd be quick to acquire a flavour.
I think that residual tastes and odors are always going to be a factor to some degree, however I didn't find it to be an issue in my time with the device. Except for when I put a couple drops of peppermint oil into a bowl. That didn't go away in a hurry. :lol:

I think that as people become more open to the idea of vaporizing new herbs they'll be less concerned about 'cross contamination'. I've actually been enjoying mixing cannabis with mint leaves in my Cloud lately which is something I never would have done a few years back.

Don't quote me on this (Stu, I will ban you), but I think Josh and co. have decided to bump the Herbie's max temperature up from 420F to 445F. Just below 451F with the ~5F variance. Smart decision IMO.

Also FWIW I think we'll go with a new thread when the Herbalizer is released. So spam away. Well don't spam, but don't be shy to post about the contest and such as long as it's somewhat on topic.
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member
I'm digging the colorful text, but a friendly reminder that white text will be invisible to people using forum styles with white backgrounds.

Awe! But now how am I supposed to make my posts stand out? Through wit, creativity, and street smarts? Pfft. Right. That only got me where I am now! Guh....

Last time I checked it wasn't the weekend yet. :D

I KNOW it's not the weekend, but... you teased us so hard... you can't blame me for getting antsy! :)

Anyway. As a student of Holistic Nutrition, I have got ravenous ants in my pants waiting for this baby...
 
EveryDayAmnesiac,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Since I'm forbidden from quoting, I'll just say that I was pleased to hear that they are upping the max temp as it will allow for greater versatility IMO.

Damn, you have no idea how much self control I had to summon to not hit that "reply" button. :argh:

:peace:
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

Well-Known Member

Now that I know who this is (and I'm somewhat embarrassed that I did not), I kinda wish there were an emoticon for every superhero/villain. Particularly Mole Man! And Rorschach.

Although for this vape, I suppose :borg: will suffice...

Still prefer the Cylons though... :shrug:

Anyway. Carry on. :tup:
 
EveryDayAmnesiac,

luchiano

Well-Known Member
For you guys who have spent time with the maker, what are they doing/suggesting for using multiple herbs without mingling tastes? That's always been my reservation about using other herbs, is I don't want to deal with all the mixed up tastes. If they are serious about it being used with other herbs, I think they need to address this. Maybe multiple whips and bags? Would the bowl need to be cleaned to eliminate other tastes?

A lot of this comes from condensation. If you use a very small amount, to the point where you don't really see a cloud in the bong, you aren't getting condensation, which means the substances aren't going to stick to anything, which means no lingering flavors, or at least very little. Plus you get more absorption, as a plus, being that that the lungs aren't meant to absorb thick vapor. When you see a cloud, that means condensation is taking place, due to the molecules slowing down, and clumping together which allows light to reflect on the molecules, giving you the image of a cloud.

If they give instructions on how to load the bowl, I don't think lingering, and mixing of taste will be an issue. Remember with vaporizers you don't need that much, and if this is a medical device, they probably aren't going to market it to people who love clouds, just potent effects, so they will probably recommend using very little herb. Just enough to ease their symptoms. The fan will probably give clouds though, due to so much air diluting the vapor, and cooling it down. This also depends on how fast they run the fan, but it will still probably give more clouds then inhaling at a slow rate which brings in very little air to cool down the vapor, if they use very little in the bowl.
 

Mynameismud

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
Even using a small amount of anything I have had horrible lingering tastes when using mutliple vaporizers. I tried the sample pack that came with my wispr the first time, only took 1 drag off of it while it was heating up for the first time and had a horrible lingering taste that stayed even with constant use and switching the material. Took about a week and a half to get rid of.

I said never again to myself, until i got the solo and did the same thing. The best way ive fund to avoid the lingering is with my vivape and 2 different wand/whips. I dont know if itll be as easy to avoid contaminated the taste in the herbalizer with the magnetic bowl dropping down into the unit, but Im thinking itll be close to the same principle
 
Mynameismud,

luchiano

Well-Known Member
Even using a small amount of anything I have had horrible lingering tastes when using mutliple vaporizers. I tried the sample pack that came with my wispr the first time, only took 1 drag off of it while it was heating up for the first time and had a horrible lingering taste that stayed even with constant use and switching the material. Took about a week and a half to get rid of.

I said never again to myself, until i got the solo and did the same thing. The best way ive fund to avoid the lingering is with my vivape and 2 different wand/whips. I dont know if itll be as easy to avoid contaminated the taste in the herbalizer with the magnetic bowl dropping down into the unit, but Im thinking itll be close to the same principle


It's not just using a small amount, but how much air you inhale which condenses the vapor, that creates the lingering taste. If you inhale fast, you will have more air that has a chance of cooling off the vapor, and allowing it to condense on anything it touches. If you inhale real slow, there is much less air to have this cooling effect happens so fast. Using a small amount means you have less chance of condensed vapor to stick to anything. The more vapor that is cooling off, the thicker it becomes, which means more chance of condensation on your whip, which means lingering tastes.
 

1_gr8_underdog

Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
Congratulations Tweek!! :tup:

And thank you to the Herbalizer team for putting on a great contest
 
1_gr8_underdog,
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