Let me start by saying, I'm not accusing anyone of scamming.
I didn't say it was "too much". What I said was, clearly they produced the videos they needed to, to start production.
?I didn't say you said it was "too much".
After that point, they have nothing to gain and everything to lose (literally, asset forfeiture is a major revenue stream in areas like this) by seeking more publicity, particularly publicity like useage videos.
I didn't say videos. I said "photos of production, crates of components, assembly line working", all innocuous unless the product is shown completed. Did you read my post?
Assessing risks inherent in attracting the attention of 1-2000 willing participants is one thing; continuing to poke the bear by putting out images of illegal activity after those goals are met, when doing so offers little appreciable benefit until they have a legally secured company and retail units available is... another.
So are you suggesting the people who contributed those funds take this new manufacturer's word on production? Their goals of fundraising may have been met but the goal of the fundraisers themselves is pending. I stand by my request for in-progress images.
Huh? How the jesus did you read that interpretation? They have a whole lot more to lose by running such a stupid scam. $100k each doesn't go very far, and the internet is not kind about this kind of thing. If they fail to produce, well that's the end of their future in this field, at the very least. My point is very simply that a) there's no sense in getting worked up about it until it either happens or doesn't, and even then, there's STILL nothing to be done except choose to keep taking chances or not; welcome to investing, and b) I think a lot of people in friendly states really have no idea how draconian deep prohibition states are. Seriously, it's in my employment contract that I could be fired even for suspicion of "involvement", like proactive involvement in decriminalization efforts.
Not sure how you don't see how that interpretation fits.
They have LITTLE to lose by running what could be a $300,000 scam. In some areas of the country, $300,000 is 6 years of annual employment. Most lotteries pay less than that. But if you could generate that in less than a month, I'd say you could have a very successful scam on your hands.
What do you mean by "the internet is not kind about this kind of thing"? Is there some kind of fail safe or enforcement keeping them from running with the money? If they fail to produce, they can merely change their name and start another venture. By no means is that an "end to their future in this field".
"Welcome to investing"? Investors get regular reports on the progress of their investments, they don't give their money away and hope for the best. They study reports and adjust their portfolios/move their money accordingly. Perhaps you meant "welcome to crowd funding".
Many of us in friendly states are by no means oblivious to the plight of those in non-friendly states. Some of us are relocated from non-friendly states, some of us have family in non-friendly states.
Again, they proposed this project knowing where they were going to be producing and decided to move forward.
I'm not calling anyone names for wanting updates, I'm just voicing understanding about their position when it comes to use videos, right at this moment. Remember, I'm invested, too.
I don't know you, clearly you're new here, and you may not be calling anyone names but you certainly seem to have reacted to my post with some negativity that wasn't due.
My request is simple one to keep us, the fundraisers, in the loop and to keep them, the manufacturers, honest.
Welcome to FC.
Seems that he's turned on.
