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vapeppau

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Basically like the crafty loading tool, maybe make it smaller and smell proof and u have a winner
 
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SmokinMagic

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Basically like the crafty loading tool, maybe make it smaller and smell proof and u have a winner

I was actually going to try to design something like this even though I only have some basic knowledge of CAD and don't have a $9000 3D printer lol
 
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peaceonearth

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Pre-ground. Wouldn't it be cool if it were possible to purchase pre-ground and packed herbs, in the same way that you can buy Nespresso and K-cups now?

I'm thinking little grasshopper sized and shaped doses of herb in a blister pack, in such a way that you could just break the seal and pop it right into the oven.

Could probably have it in a mesh capsule (some plant fiber), so it would stay together for easier insertion and removal. Reduce the need for cleaning, I'd imagine.

Now that MJ is being legalized in several states, it seems to me that there is a market for innovative delivery systems like that. A pod system for herb...bet it'll happen.

Blister pack? Isn't there enough plastic litter everywhere? I like the concept but would much prefer something like the packets used for sugar. Perfect size to hold a GH bowl-full, rip off the end and pour. They seem to keep sugar fresh despite being paper-based.
 

Delta3DStudios

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Yeah, I was thinking about something like that, but much smaller, and much stronger to fit on your keychain and not get in the way (Portability is key!)

I was actually going to try to design something like this even though I only have some basic knowledge of CAD and don't have a $9000 3D printer lol

I wish I had a $9k highend 3D printer! But actually that's a vinyl printer (sticker machine). For making labels to put on the 3D printed mini grinder (for that added stealth appeal). Sadly I'm still stuck on how to make everything, I'd almost need to outsource the prints, and assemble in house (with the sticker and the magnet).

Pre-ground. Wouldn't it be cool if it were possible to purchase pre-ground and packed herbs, in the same way that you can buy Nespresso and K-cups now?

I'm thinking little grasshopper sized and shaped doses of herb in a blister pack, in such a way that you could just break the seal and pop it right into the oven.

Could probably have it in a mesh capsule (some plant fiber), so it would stay together for easier insertion and removal. Reduce the need for cleaning, I'd imagine.

Now that MJ is being legalized in several states, it seems to me that there is a market for innovative delivery systems like that. A pod system for herb...bet it'll happen.

I'd been toying with the idea of how to make a pre-measured container which would easily hold exactly one bowl's worth of material, but haven't come up with a good way to secure the container, and still provide a convenient delivery system to load the oven without the need for a separate funnel (defeating the purpose I had in mind) - of course my solution involved a reusable container, not a disposable one.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Ya know, I'm thinking about traveling with pre-ground herbs. Think about it - consumes less space. Can carry more in a smaller container. And it's easier/faster to re-fill (no pre-grinding before filling).

Me and my buddy actually came up with an idea for a container that could be 3D printed, but we stalled on trying to actually create it lol. I'm sure you could do it pretty simply actually though:

Basic idea came from a film canister, which I use for grounds and one for avb when im out and about or at a friends (though I've been using a Thermovape container lately for herbs, its smaller, but film canister is great for longer trips).

Anyway, the idea is to have a printed container that size, but be a little longer (probably a little narrower too, and for use with the grasshopper probably much narrower actually, but other vapes like FF/ESV/Indica benefit from having a wider mouth, so multiple sizes perhaps?!). Then you have a panel in the tube making two separate compartments (like if my two film canisters were stacked bottom to bottom) with a lid on each top.

One compartment for greens, and one for browns. The avb one should be a little shallower than the fresh herb side, since you'll want to pack more green and avb is less dense obv. For the lids, probably screw caps were thinking would be the most secure though instead of pop caps.

So what do you think? We had presumed it had to be plastic, but it'd be fucking gorgeous in ss or some other metal...
 

Delta3DStudios

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Me and my buddy actually came up with an idea for a container that could be 3D printed, but we stalled on trying to actually create it lol. I'm sure you could do it pretty simply actually though:

Basic idea came from a film canister, which I use for grounds and one for avb when im out and about or at a friends (though I've been using a Thermovape container lately for herbs, its smaller, but film canister is great for longer trips).

Anyway, the idea is to have a printed container that size, but be a little longer (probably a little narrower too, and for use with the grasshopper probably much narrower actually, but other vapes like FF/ESV/Indica benefit from having a wider mouth, so multiple sizes perhaps?!). Then you have a panel in the tube making two separate compartments (like if my two film canisters were stacked bottom to bottom) with a lid on each top.

One compartment for greens, and one for browns. The avb one should be a little shallower than the fresh herb side, since you'll want to pack more green and avb is less dense obv. For the lids, probably screw caps were thinking would be the most secure though instead of pop caps.

So what do you think? We had presumed it had to be plastic, but it'd be fucking gorgeous in ss or some other metal...

I kinda get what you're saying...., but what do you think about this configuration - Would something like this work?
o6AJMrd.png


Obviously I need to add threads and a cap, but my thought is you could use your finger to cover one side when using the other....

I could design the cap to use a standard size O-Ring which the user could install if desired to get a water tight/airtight seal. Even add a loop for a keychain.

I could probably offer it 3D printed from shapeways (for durability), in plastic for under $15, and in 3D printed Stainless Steel for under $25 - bit on the pricey side, but you could get the steel gold plated for some extra bling if desired (or a bronze finish for the same price as SS)

To avoid going OT too much, shoot me a PM if you want to discuss a bit further
 

btka

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the clouds in @BuzzDanklin video look great and also he states that they are really big. by the way thank you @BuzzDanklin for all the informations and video!

But how good is the taste? and can youl also load smaller bowls 0.03 to 0.05g? How is the vapor then (size, amount of draws)? I am asking this because i am a log vape owner (enano) and i like to use small amounts 0.03g per load because of conservation but more importantly taste... because if i would load more i would get one or two great tasting hits and then several hits where the terpans (essential oils) are missing (because they got extracted in the two first hits)... that is mostly why i prefer smaller loads... is this also possible with the gh (with also good results = cloud size, taste)...
 

CG420

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Dude, I think if you're a log vaper you'll have some similarities to this portable but I would assume you need more than a 0.03 to vape in the GH to minimize loading and packing so often. In the video of Buzz, it looks like his friend has gotten more vapor and appears denser due to the pull. I'm guessing you could still achieve the same results as a log vape if you're patient overall. I just find it'll be more time consuming that way and not so practical in use for a portable/on-the-go pen vaporizer.
 

JiggyJack

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@btka Talking out of my ass here since I don't have one yet but based on what I've read from Buzz I think you can put in as little as you'd want. At least that is what I am hoping. I only need a little to get where I'm going and flavor is key. If we're lucky I'll be able to pack enough for three of my sessions and because it is convection and so fast to come to temperature by the third day it'll still have some good flavor.
 

snamuh

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I kinda get what you're saying...., but what do you think about this configuration - Would something like this work?
o6AJMrd.png


Obviously I need to add threads and a cap, but my thought is you could use your finger to cover one side when using the other....

I could design the cap to use a standard size O-Ring which the user could install if desired to get a water tight/airtight seal. Even add a loop for a keychain.

I could probably offer it 3D printed from shapeways (for durability), in plastic for under $15, and in 3D printed Stainless Steel for under $25 - bit on the pricey side, but you could get the steel gold plated for some extra bling if desired (or a bronze finish for the same price as SS)

To avoid going OT too much, shoot me a PM if you want to discuss a bit further
just an idea... what about a cylinder split like that other guys said, one side abv the other fresh... but on the fresh side theres a screw on cap which opens up the container but also has threads for another cap with a smaller diameter to use for pouring into a bowl/vape.

so...
abc cap|.......abv conatiner.....|..........fresh........|freshcap|...pour cap|

to load ground herb into the contain you open the fresh cap.... to pour into your vape you use the pour cap.

(fresh cap would be open on both ends... so i guess it wouldnt be right to call it a cap.)
 

nopartofme

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Ya know, I'm thinking about traveling with pre-ground herbs. Think about it - consumes less space. Can carry more in a smaller container. And it's easier/faster to re-fill (no pre-grinding before filling).
I got a bunch of 1 dram vials (in amber glass from these folks) a few years ago, after reading @OF 's recommendation of them as an accessory for the MFLB. They're nice for carrying around a few pre-measured doses (say, .1-.2 gram shots).

Works well if you're interested in consistency and quickness in the field, and they look nice too imo. Just need a proper size scoop and funnel for filling them and you're good to go.
 

lwien

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I got a bunch of 1 dram vials (in amber glass from these folks) a few years ago, after reading @OF 's recommendation of them as an accessory for the MFLB. They're nice for carrying around a few pre-measured doses (say, .1-.2 gram shots).

Works well if you're interested in consistency and quickness in the field, and they look nice too imo. Just need a proper size scoop and funnel for filling them and you're good to go.

Reminds me of my coke days. Saw those pics and my nose started runnin'.
 
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Mrbinky

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Blister pack? Isn't there enough plastic litter everywhere? I like the concept but would much prefer something like the packets used for sugar. Perfect size to hold a GH bowl-full, rip off the end and pour. They seem to keep sugar fresh despite being paper-based.
Well, you could have a little airtight canister with several "pods" filled with pre-ground herb, like the kind they do for coffee in Europe (see below.)

The pod could be pure, unbleached cellulose of some kind, loosely woven so as not to significantly increase draw resistance, which shouldn't add or detract from your vape in any way (except you maybe wouldn't need a screen anymore.) The point is, it would be quick to load and unload, keep things cleaner, easier to dispose of, and measured, ground and packed for a consistently good result. Basically, some company could brand them, and sell specific varieties or blends, which were tested to have a specific percentage of meds. I'd buy it.
coffee-pods-ESE_333333.jpg
 

Mrbinky

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Teabags have always been made out of hemp fibers, they're pretty cheap in scale :tup:
Exactly! I still drink loose leaf tea and grind my own coffee. But I use the pods and tea bags, too. I used to have an Espresso maker that could take both pods and loose ground.

It would be so cool if I could do the same with my Grasshopper!
 
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Mrbinky

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But how would you seal the pods? I'm sure we can get the hemp fabric from hemptraders.com

Just imagine making your own "bullets" for the GH - that would make loading and unloading OTG a breeze
I don't think you'd need to seal them per-se: maybe folded would be enough.

If you really wanted to seal them, maybe a little bit of MJ wax or Resin "glue". Have a little folder machine, put the fabric in, some grind, a little dab of resin, turn the crank, bob's your uncle. That's a lot of work just for one, but if it would be somewhat automated...and look how much time people used to spend rolling a joint. :-)

For that matter, whatever they used to use to seal rolling paper would probably work...must be safe, and you're not even going to burn it.
 

Delta3DStudios

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I like the resin glue idea, I could make a simple manual press of sorts, but that might condense the herb too much and prevent proper vaporization.

But again, we need the vape first before we can start tinkering!
 
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Mrbinky

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I like the resin glue idea, I could make a simple manual press of sorts, but that might condense the herb too much and prevent proper vaporization.

But again, we need the vape first before we can start tinkering!
yeah, I want it tomorrow!

I think if the herb was shredded not too finely, it would work, but you wouldn't want to pack it too tightly.

We need a mass market vaporizer that is full convection and low draw resistance, to establish it's form factor as a standard. Then, these aftermarket goodies will follow. I hope grasshopper keeps the price low, so everyone and their brother will buy it.
 

Uzer

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I think tea bags are sewn.

I know mass-produced tea bags like Nestle are actually a tube that is filled in the middle, then folded up and stapled at the top. It looks like a bag but it's not. I know this because I have emptied them and refilled them with ABV.

I got in on the Pre-Order. I think the price of the stainless is fair enough considering the risk of an untested in the real world unit. If it works like they claim it will be an amazing portable.
 
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