Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

[Shiggity]

In the beginning I was so enthused about the fresh taste that I didn't worry about how dark my abv became. I would even end up with some green left.

Since then the intimacy with my space coffin has led me to try different things. Sometimes I try to see how dark my abv can get and I am pretty sure I get most of the goodies.

But most if the time a light tan is just fine with me. Access to fresh green is not an issue and I really prefer the first 3-5 hits. After that I feel like I have gotten what I need. I prefer the heady aspect much more than the pain relief/body aspect.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

But most if the time a light tan is just fine with me. Access to fresh green is not an issue and I really prefer the first 3-5 hits. After that I feel like I have gotten what I need. I prefer the heady aspect much more than the pain relief/body aspect.

I agree. Once all that awesome flavor is depleted (light/medium tan) I shake my herbs out and start with something fresh and tasty again. It starts tasting not so good at that point so I save that ABV for nighttime use through my Ascent through water. Even at that color, all that's left is the body stuff, in my experience with the FF. I like heady stuff only during the day.

 

[Mrmrmrmr]

Please, give me a break. Isn't there an ABV thread you can visit somewhere?

If its not for you it's not for you no need to be rude

 

[cancertoast]

I'm not sure where the "ABV General" thread is but to keep it short:

Yes I've toss-and-wash'ed ABV (put it in mouth, swallow with water)

How would that even work? I thought the human body lacked the necessary enzymes to metabolize MJ straight up. We require some sort of lipid to make use of the the active ingredients. Sorry to derail.

To bring this back to the FF. Is it just me, or does it feel like there is a point where the FF is super hot, but I am not getting any vapor from my material at all, yet it is not dark ABV.

 

[WildChild]

Hi, Folks

I certainly do no wish to upset anyone and it wasn't my intention.

I have read every post in this thread in order to try and enjoy my FF experience too. Fully spent ABV is obviously a subjective topic. I'll respect the fact that you all feel I'm in error in this regard.

@Vitolo

You have way too much spare time. Patronize someone else, please.

 

[Vitolo]

Bringing this thread back on topic....
(FIREFLY)

How would that even work? I thought the human body lacked the necessary enzymes to metabolize MJ straight up. We require some sort of lipid to make use of the the active ingredients. Sorry to derail.

It works just fine.
I have been eating straight abv for many years.
It is carbolated already, and you body provides the rest.
Your body lacks the enzymes to activate GREEN herb.
Derail is now over.
The FireFly does give me great even and dark ABV unless I wish to vape it less dark.

Please, give me a break. Isn't there an ABV thread you can visit somewhere?

There is an ABV thread, but then when discussing the specifics of the ABV gotten from The FireFly, one could say.. "That is great but is there not a FireFly thread?"

@Vitolo
You have way too much spare time. Patronize someone else, please.

Hey... take it easy!
This is not "spare time".
I am crippled and homebound.. and the forum and internet is my life.
You have been trying hard to alienate someone all morning and now you have done it.
I have not patronized you.. I have simply sat here and hit the report button every time you perseverate the same view... paraphrased a new way.
I believe I am the one utilizing my "spare time" to it's best advantage, and perhaps you have it backwards about who needs to 'get a life"! We are here to discuss the Firefly. When you get something new or different to say I will listen.

Hi, Folks
I certainly do no wish to upset anyone and it wasn't my intention.

I can't tell! We want to talk Firefly, and hear new views and information about the FF. What you keep doing is perseveration!

 

[vtac]

Let's get back on topic please. People looking for info on this vape shouldn't have to wade through off-topic disputes. Further off-topic posts will likely be removed and warnings may be given.

Thank you.

 

[WildChild]

To bring this back to the FF. Is it just me, or does it feel like there is a point where the FF is super hot, but I am not getting any vapor from my material at all, yet it is not dark ABV.

Exactly my point. Thank you.

@Vitolo

I am sorry about your condition. I am severely bipolar and vape for mental health.

However, some of us don't see the self-proclaimed 'Vaporist' as the ultimate authority. And I never said 'get a life'. You may feel that way. My life is quite full, thank you.

I wish you well @Vitolo.

 

[mitchgo61]

To bring this back to the FF. Is it just me, or does it feel like there is a point where the FF is super hot, but I am not getting any vapor from my material at all, yet it is not dark ABV.

Try a stir and re grind....make sure material is more broken-down in the final stages than when you began.

 

[Vitolo]

To bring this back to the FF. Is it just me, or does it feel like there is a point where the FF is super hot, but I am not getting any vapor from my material at all, yet it is not dark ABV.

open, sweep off and re-close the lid. I found that if you are sloppy the crumbs do affect the lids seal.
It also helps after a few hits to shake her up real well.

 

[marduk]

Also, just because the Firefly's body is hot doesn't necessarily mean that the heating element and the immediate area are up to vaping temp. It just means the body has retained excess heat already generated.

You still have to push the button and draw as you would using your usual technique after your first couple of tokes when the Firefly chamber is nicely preheated but the body hasn't gotten hot yet.

 

[cancertoast]

Also, just because the Firefly's body is hot doesn't necessarily mean that the heating element and the immediate area are up to vaping temp. It just means the body has retained excess heat already generated.

You still have to push the button and draw as you would using your usual technique after your first couple of tokes when the Firefly chamber is nicely preheated but the body hasn't gotten hot yet.

That is a good point. In my mind, I was thinking that the dry herb was sticking to the top side of the lid, and blocking some of the pathways, similar to the 'puck effect' others have mentioned. Resulting in decreased airflow, and a lack of heat. This kind of makes me want to look into making a coil, like another poster had modded. Perhaps a stainless steel screen, larger than the ones included with the FF, with larger meshing, sitting atop the bowl would suffice. I really want the herb to stay in the glass bowl.

Before doing any of that though, I will try the advice mentioned, to finely grind the late stage herb.

This was the reason for my reminder that a "shake"was in order after a couple of hits.

I will definitely be trying this too. I was always paranoid that I might jar something loose! So I try not to shake my FF.

 

[Vitolo]

That is a good point. In my mind, I was thinking that the dry herb was sticking to the top side of the lid, and blocking some of the pathways, similar to the 'puck effect' others have mentioned

This was the reason for my reminder that a "shake"was in order after a couple of hits.

 

[rsqemt911]

I have completely depleted my load EVERY time I have used the FF.
Every time!
Dark even and brown ABV every time.
We get the idea... you don't like your FF.

I do not mind hearing about bad experiences, but it gets old when the same members keep popping in every few posts to remind us that they did not like their unit. We get the idea. Some did not like their unit.
Post your disdain once and move on.

@Mrmrmrmr Thank you!

Perseveration:
1-The continuing of a behavior, after the behavior is no longer appropriate
2-The tendency to continue or repeat an act or activity after the cessation of the original stimulus.
3-Uncontrollable repetition of a particular response, such as a word, phrase, or line of thought, despite the absence or cessation of a stimulus, usually caused by brain injury or other organic disorder.

Mine is completely depleted to my expectation.

Maybe people feel brown conduction ABV is the gold standard but I have to say that is just a misconception. I have vaped out of many many vapes and as stated unless you combust your not going to get everything out. Some are going to cook more than others but ultimately your perception and opinion are all that matter. Multiple opinions on here agree that extraction is fairly complete.

I feel medicated FAR beyond the level I reach with my other vapes (unless I am vaporbonging). And the ABV is consistantly dark golden brown and is perfect for cooking with.

If its not for you it's not for you no need to be rude

If the ABV is produced out of a FF, it is relevant to this discussion. We are talking about ABV related to this product and its ability to extract. Appropriate conversation.

 

[Sam1409]

Don't you need to clean the inside of the unit?
How often do you need to change the screen?
Thanks!

 

[mitchgo61]

Before doing any of that though, I will try the advice mentioned, to finely grind the late stage herb.

Just be aware that this is where things get messy with the FF...the combination of the material's dryness at that stage and finer grind will send material sticking to the lid. However, in my experience, this is the only way to get that last 15%, or anyway 99% of the last 15%. (Hey full circle, we're back to extraction level again.) I have experienced this thing where you feel like no matter how hot it gets, you aren't getting the last of the extraction, and I find that making sure the material is well stirred and mostly broken-down by the end is the only way to expose enough surface area in the final stages to effect the last bits of vapor extraction.

But yeah, it's a king-hell mess on the FF lid....easiest thing to do between deep iso cleanings is use a microfiber cloth and just wipe the inside of the lid and heating surface. (Just watch the pressure on the port window so you don't unseat the gasket.)

Don't you need to clean the inside of the unit?
How often do you need to change the screen?
Thanks!

See above. The screen, in my experience, almost never needs removal or cleaning. The edges can get debris caked on them after a few weeks. In ten weeks I've removed the screen exactly once, and have no immediate plans to do it again.

 

[fernand]

One way to look at the lid is as a sort of reserve of goodies. Not dirt. Of course, as capital, it's kind of tied up, but think of it as money in an IRA. If I (still) drank vodka, I'd wash it with 96% ethanol into a shot glass, na zdrovie ;-)

I keep observing this tendency to heat the center-bottom area disproportionally, especially when restraining even loosely with an inner screen cap, but has anyone figured out another way to vape under 0.1g, you know a little pick-me-up, like you can on a (heaven help us) MFLB?

 

[stronggside]

hey guys i have another question. I was cleaning my FF today. After cleaning I opened my LID and put my vape on and held the "light" button. I can see some smoke coming out of the LID.

could this just be the resin being burned ?

 

[Vitolo]

Yes, I would imagine this to be the case, or tiny particles of kief that are stuck to area... or even possibly made it through the screen.


*NOTE: It was hinted to me that I was saying good things about the FF to make the people at FireFly happy.
I did not get this unit from FireFly.
I got this unit from VapeWorld, to whom I am a customer like everyone else here.
They treated me well and are always fair.
Every word I say about the FireFly, or any other vaporizer are my actual thoughts. If I say I am enjoying this vaporizer, it's because I am. Thanks~

.... but has anyone figured out another way to vape under 0.1g, you know a little pick-me-up...

I have used as little as 2 tiny crumbs of bud in the FF, and gotten enough vapor to pick-me-up.
I am describing .02 or even less of a gram.

The video is almost 2 minutes long. There are not huge clouds of vapor, as there are only two flakes of herb in the FF, but I got a number of hits, and did feel the effect.

 

[rplenty]

As a new user of the Firefly I would like to post my experience. First I have found the FF to be an exceptional experience which does what it is supposed to do. I have found many posters are correct that the FF works best if you heat it until it glows bright orange for a few seconds. I find if your draw keeps the heating element glowing you will get the most vapor. Do not draw too quick or you will cool the air too much, it takes a short time to find the sweet spot. I disagree on what many of the posters have said to not chop the fill up finely. I have found that the fine particles are best as the heat transfers quickly, so I would recommend using a grinder and grind to fine. It is also best to fill the bowl about 2/3 no more, so a the stuff at the top gets thoroughly baked. As with the Volcano the first and second bowls are good after that not much left to vaporize. I have not had any problem with particles coming out or a need for a top screen. The unit is heaver than I would have imagined, a couple of pounds I guess, but that is needed as the FF gets hot and they needed metal as a heatsink. It is also big like a medium sized cell phone. And as a direct reply to the discussion, of course you can scale down how much you put in, but be aware you are using the battery less efficiently if that was an issue.

 

[mitchgo61]

I have used as little as 2 tiny crumbs of bud in the FF, and gotten enough vapor to pick-me-up.
I am describing .02 or even less of a gram.

I had zero luck doing this when I tried it...seemed like I didn't have enough material mass to get anything really going. I will have to try it again...I probably gave up too easily. (I usually find the FF works best, for me, when it's fairly full or even a little overfull.) When it comes to the FF you should never judge on your first attempt!

 

[Raskin666]

I will sometimes do short presses on the button near the end of the session to finish it off. Once the unit is all warmed up it doesn't need much to get the heat up there.

 

[fernand]

@Vitolo I think you're right. I've been trying various small amounts and I'm finding that it's true that it works better without any added screens. If I leave a little resin and dust around the porthole, it prevents any particles ever making it out, and even small amounts do the swirly dance in the hot air -- they go nowhere else. For stirring, tapping and inverting just as much as with a MFLB works. An inverted screen bowl keeps the flyers down, but I tend to get more hot spots.

I find that for some reason the FF is much more stealth-worthy than expected. There's a way to palm it that looks like you're holding a phone, and sort of nibbling on it. You know, everybody nibbles their phone, sometimes. Guys, Gals, People, one can vape with this thing all over. The scent of the vapor is quite subtle if you keep the temp reasonable. Heck, I just winessed vaping a bowl in a movie theater and a restaurant today, not counting the street and the Apple Store.

 

[fernand]

Alright, Alright, Alright. I am now in the big leagues, with a bona fide US Made two perc bubbler. Thank my wife for that. She wrestled the salesman to a cash out the door price you would not believe. She's good. We were already exiting when he calls out the price, OK, OK!

Now what I beg to know, and it's important, is how on earth @havealight101 links up the FF to that bong (on Page 81 in case you missed it), and where his vapestoffe is. Is it a dab on a "liquid pillow"? Is it invisible? Dude! Please show the details of your gear! Adapters and all! Where can I get some parts?

p.s. Is this glass in 14 and 18 mm and percs and downstems going to be like cabling in the studio, where you constantly suffer DIN and XLR and Phono connectors and adapters this and adapters that?

 

[Raskin666]

So....I just had a revelation. Maybe I am just an idiot, but I would say look into this if you are someone having trouble achieving results with the FF. Look at the air intake holes. All 3 sides of the front of the unit. I was blocking these sometimes. Holding it without blocking them is not super convenient (design flaw perhaps), but check out the difference with them completely clear. Something so simple and stupid.

PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU TRY THIS! This has completely changed the machine for me, and I ALREADY really liked it.