Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

[RobDaBomb]

okay, here are some pictures...

Well I'm much less experienced with the Firefly than others here, but I can tell you that visually yours seems exactly like mine. My cover came with some rough patches on the rims around the seal grooves (also it even came with a dent on it) and it works well. Additionally when I try to cover the 3 vents around the bowl-end of the device the draw doesn't seem very restricted -- I'm a little surprised by that as well lol.

Do you happen to know what kind of battery you have? It should say on it 750 or 770mah.

Both the 750's I have (one that came with it, one purchased from a head shop) gave me extremely inconsistent and frustrating results. I was entirely disappointed and felt like the entire unit must have been bad. Luckily Firefly sent me a free new battery and then, after a bit of tinkering to get the learning curve down, I finally started getting normal hits.

 

[mitchgo61]

okay, here are some pictures... they are taken on my phone so not the best quality... lid seems to sit pretty similar to yours... let me know if there is any area in particular that you would like me to try and get a better shot of. the last two photos you can kind of see the imperfections on the inside of the outer lip of the lid.

These are great, thanks for posting. I see what you mean about the gap inconsistency....I agree the lid doesn't look seated evenly. It could be the small bumps in the seal, though I'm not sure that's enough to cause a problem if the magnet is strong enough. Otherwise the seal doesn't look weird to me (though, is it blue? It looks blue here...I've never seen one that isn't grey...maybe it's the pix, or my brain...). I've used FFs with similar imperfections of the seal and they worked fine. My guess is a new lid would fix your issues. Where did you purchase from? FF direct?

another thing I thought I'd mention, I've tried drawing on the unit when it is off and cold and if I cover the vents on the front with my hand ( I assume this is where it draws air in?) it doesn't really alter the draw resistance, I thought maybe this could mean air is coming from somewhere else ?

Yes, and yes. Those are the air vents, and covering them should theoretically create draw resistance...but it's a subtle difference, on both of mine anyway. I can notice it a bit, but much more noticeable is the sound: cover the vents and the "wind" noise is muffled. Remove your hand and it's like opening a window and hearing the wind more clearly. If you aren't noticing these differences when covering the vents then you definitely have a seal issue, and that's probably why you aren't getting decent hits.

 

[caliwisp]

What's your speculations on how this new firefly is going to work?

It's going to be smaller! According to someone who works at FF.

 

[ataxian]

There are no stupid questions here!

Since your not going to stone me for asking this question:

I have not used my FIREFLY for a while however the flavor was really good without water?

During the day I read and take medication often through out the day.

My question is what position should the on/off switch be in during charging?

Right now it's facing away from the mouthpiece and the light is blue?

I'm stoked to use it again due to the flavor so amazing!

 

[mitchgo61]

Since your not going to stone me for asking this question:

I have not used my FIREFLY for a while however the flavor was really good without water?

During the day I read and take medication often through out the day.

My question is what position should the on/off switch be in during charging?

Right now it's facing away from the mouthpiece and the light is blue?

I'm stoked to use it again due to the flavor so amazing!

I would never stone you, my friend. Get stoned with you, perhaps....

You can charge it in either position. "Off" is closer to the mouthpiece, but the charger doesn't care. It pulses at a different rate while charging, depending on which position it's in...but it doesn't affect the charging process.

 

[ataxian]

I would never stone you, my friend. Get stoned with you, perhaps....

You can charge it in either position. "Off" is closer to the mouthpiece, but the charger doesn't care. It pulses at a different rate while charging, depending on which position it's in...but it doesn't affect the charging process.

I think people are afraid of my vaporizing methods.
This CALIFORNIA FARMS OG not only taste unreal it's super fuel.

The taste is so good I wanted to put the FIREFLY back in rotation.

1 more question after charge switch it towards the mouthpiece?

If it turns green?
It been on for 2 hours and is still blue?

Also why did they put a 770 mah battery instead of a 2200 like a SOLO?

 

[mitchgo61]

I think people are afraid of my vaporizing methods.

1 more question after charge switch it towards the mouthpiece?

If it turns green?
It been on for 2 hours and is still blue?

Also why did they put a 770 mah battery instead of a 2200 like a SOLO?

That's like four questions!

When charging, the light will pulse blue. When the charging is complete the blue will go solid. (It'll stay solid blue forever...so unplug the charger already. ) Leave the toggle switch towards the mouthpiece to turn it OFF. When you want to use it, push the switch forward. You'll get a solid green light. When you push on the heat button, the light will flash, indicating it's heating. Now you can draw.

If you leave the toggle switch ON (away from the mouthpiece) the light will stay green. It'll shut itself off automatically after five minutes. (You can just push in the heat button to start heating again...you don't have to toggle off and on again.)

I don't know the answer to the battery question. The upcoming FF2 has better battery life by around 2x, but I'm not sure why they made the choices they did. (I'm sure I wouldn't understand it even if someone explained it to me. )

 

[Astedra]

I just read that the ff has a 50 watt heater that's as much as the new one?

 

[Shit Snacks]

I just read that the ff has a 50 watt heater that's as much as the new one?

Yupyup, new one seems to be just an evolution

 

[Robob]

Same wattage more holes though that are smaller in the FF2 so no need for screen! I have lost a few of the screens myself for the FF so this is good.

On another note those of you who daily the FF how many batteries do you use?
I Have the FF external charger and rotate my 3 out when I'm away from home and can usually make do with the two 770s and 1 750 but sometimes on longer days I am left with the RLOS (red light of sadness ) and have to run for home.
When at home I use the FF randomly when I'm not at the desk with the VB1 and try to use the 770s in rotation.

 

[Astedra]

I have two 770s threw the 750 away

 

[amethystwolf]

When I made my first post yesterday, I had decided on the Haze. After talking with hubby, he is liking the Firefly - mostly because it heats up so fast. I am concerned though, because of issues I've read in this thread and elsewhere. Which would you pick, Haze or Firefly - and why? I really like the fact that you can have double chambers loaded in the Haze, and I like the looks of it too. The Firefly heads up hella fast from what I understand, so that's a plus there. Thoughts please? This is alot of money, I don't want to screw up and make the wrong choice. Thanks in advance.

 

[mitchgo61]

When I made my first post yesterday, I had decided on the Haze. After talking with hubby, he is liking the Firefly - mostly because it heats up so fast. I am concerned though, because of issues I've read in this thread and elsewhere. Which would you pick, Haze or Firefly - and why? I really like the fact that you can have double chambers loaded in the Haze, and I like the looks of it too. The Firefly heads up hella fast from what I understand, so that's a plus there. Thoughts please? This is alot of money, I don't want to screw up and make the wrong choice. Thanks in advance.

I don't own (and have never tried) the Haze. But the FF2 is coming soon, and should remedy most of the issues with the FF1 that you are concerned about. FF1 is being phased out starting now. Take a look....maybe FF2 should be on your shortlist.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-firefly-2-vaporizer-coming-2016.20281/

 

[UnshavenFish]

When I made my first post yesterday, I had decided on the Haze. After talking with hubby, he is liking the Firefly - mostly because it heats up so fast. I am concerned though, because of issues I've read in this thread and elsewhere. Which would you pick, Haze or Firefly - and why? I really like the fact that you can have double chambers loaded in the Haze, and I like the looks of it too. The Firefly heads up hella fast from what I understand, so that's a plus there. Thoughts please? This is alot of money, I don't want to screw up and make the wrong choice. Thanks in advance.

Both great vapes but also very different in lots of ways, now I will start by saying this is a mixture of facts mushed up with my own opinions, I have a firefly and haze (2.5) and I don't really want to push you one way or the other so will just list the differences/features and hope it helps you make your own informed decision...

Firefly...
Fast heat up (seconds) , fast charging (45mins from empty to full) , IMO one of the tastiest vapes I own, able to take a hit then put it down and your herb won't cook until you hit it again whether that's a second later or hours later.

Haze (I have the v2.5 not the v3 but they are very similar)...
Slower heat up (1-2mins depending on temp set) ,longer charge time (4-5 hours but done in an external charger so can charge 2 batteries at once, and they also give more runtime per charge compared to firefly) , taste is good but IMO firefly wins here, two bowls and cans that can be preloaded for quick easy refills, handles anything well (and I mean anything) herb/concentrate/eliquid either on there own or mixed in a can whatever you want.

Now how they are used...

Firefly is on demand, so you can get an almost instant hit then either keep going or put it down and come back to it later as it only cooks your herb when you press the button and inhale.

Haze is a session style vape, so once it heats up you start to hit it and keep going as once at temp it will keep cooking your herb, you could turn it off before the bowl is finished but it will be a little wasteful this way and the taste won't be as good as doing the bowl in one sitting.

Reliability...

Both have had issues here (but so does almost every other vape) I have never needed to deal with either company with regards to failure/return but both haze and firefly do have lots of very good examples of great customer service throughout the threads (although IMO haze customer service is showing everyother company how to do it right, props to @scottg402 )

Just to touch on the batteries a little...

Firefly charges fast but also runs out fast due to a small capacity (770mAh)

Haze charges slower but also lasts longer thanks to bigger capacity (2600mAh and the xl batteries are 3200mAh)

Firefly battery can be charged in the firefly or you can buy an external charger, while haze can't be charged in the unit but it comes with a double external charger and two batteries.

Think I'm gonna stop now as I'm pretty baked and my focus is wandering hope some of this helps and doesn't make things harder, good luck and let us know how you get on.

Edit: and like @mitchgo61 said firefly 2 will be out soon and that thing looks good

Edit 2: Firefly does need a bit of technique to get great results so little bit of a learning curve there, the haze is pretty simple with technique could pass it to anyone and they shouldn't have any trouble, but firefly 2 seems to have much less learning curve from early reports.

 

[amethystwolf]

You guys rock! Thanks for the help. It sounds like the firefly might fit the way I want to use it better than the Haze - given the fact that it can be put down and picked back up hours later without cooking the herb. That's important, because I'm not going to finish it all in one session - unless I can load extremely small bits into the Haze. I wonder how long til FF2 comes out. Maybe I need to wait a bit.

 

[el_oh_el]

Hey, I'm getting ready to purchase a used Firefly.
He gave me the serial number. Can you guys give me an idea of what format the serial uses?
Thanks in advance

 

[mitchgo61]

Hey, I'm getting ready to purchase a used Firefly.
He gave me the serial number. Can you guys give me an idea of what format the serial uses?
Thanks in advance

Most of them are along the lines of:

E14xxxxxx

or

E13xxxxxx

There might be some other letters used, but ones made in 2013 have the 13 preface, and 2014 have the 14 preface. Those are the most recent SNs I've seen.

 

[el_oh_el]

Most of them are along the lines of:

E14xxxxxx

or

E13xxxxxx

There might be some other letters used, but ones made in 2013 have the 13 preface, and 2014 have the 14 preface. Those are the most recent SNs I've seen.

Many thanks for confirming that. It has an E14 number, which lines up with him stating he purchased it around 7 months ago

 

[RobDaBomb]

Hey everybody, I haven't used my Firefly all week because every time I heat it up a few times with an empty bowl (to the point where the device gets quite hot to the touch) a thick vapor/smoke-like trail starts releasing from the bottom of the empty bowl chamber. It appears as if its coming from under the screen.

I started using my Firefly less and less recently because every time the device gets hot enough (like 5-10 minutes of use) I notice the vapor quality started becoming irritating to me. So subconsciously I just started dumping out bowls that were still green because the vapor just was too unpleasant.

Then this week I cleaned the Firefly (holding it upside down while rubbing the bowl with a lightly dampened Qtip) and decided to see what the device was doing with an empty bowl.... now is when I'm seeing this constant vapor stream. I've done almost a half dozen or so of these 'burn offs' where I literally just take the top cover off, keep the bowl empty, and then hold down the button until it times out and repeat.

This vapor/smoke just keeps coming. At first it smelled like popcorn/hazlenutty ABV, but now it has a very weird odor. I don't know, I could be crazy but I swear it smells like burning rubber almost.

This only happens after the first few minutes of straight use it seems though. So if I were to pack a bowl, I still could get those 'flavor hits' fine... although I'm concerned to actually try roasting and finishing a full bowl again just because seeing that vapor leaving an empty bowl is startling.

Anybody have any input on this? I'm sure it's not off gassing... I mean, like the main reason I looked into the Firefly initially was because it seemed virtually un-off gassable. So then it must be like small weed particles that fell through the screen? And if so how long do you think it'll take until the empty-bowl vaping goes away?

Thanks!

 

[mitchgo61]

Hey everybody, I haven't used my Firefly all week because every time I heat it up a few times with an empty bowl (to the point where the device gets quite hot to the touch) a thick vapor/smoke-like trail starts releasing from the bottom of the empty bowl chamber. It appears as if its coming from under the screen.!

This is weird. I've never seen this, or heard of it.

1. It's not off-gassing...you're correct, that's not an issue.
2. It's hard to imagine anything native to the FF burning during normal operation. If the heat coil is way out of alignment, the worst it can do is lean against the ceramic ring....this causes the FF to be one of the "cold" units that doesn't heat properly. But it shouldn't cause burning.
3. If some debris fell into the coil, it should have burned off by now.

Make sure you've cleaned really well under the screen. Get the brush under the edge of the bowl, gently. Make sure you use a new screen. If you're still noticing this issue, it's worth a call to FF. (You could open the unit yourself but if you screw anything up you'll potentially void the warranty....but it would be interesting to see what's going on in there.)

Very weird. Let us know what happens...you've got me curious.

 

[RobDaBomb]

Thanks for the quick response @mitchgo61. It's a weird problem and it initially struck my attention when I noticed I was getting intense vapor way too early on in a session. It gave me the need to put down the fly and think in my head that the bowl must be pretty cooked by now with this kind of vapor - nope! Instead I'd open the lid and see mostly green (pretty much unvaped looking) bud looking back at me.

That's when I became curious and decided to try some burn offs after a good cleaning. I'd love to use a new screen though, but I can't find the replacements. I have my own little case that I take my Firefly everywhere in and, sadly, I now can't find the original Firefly pouch now (I think it's forgotten and misplaced or lost somewhere in my car, argghh! ). Of course I always kept the ziploc bag with the extra screens and brush in there.

Normally I've just been using toothpicks and Qtips to keep the Firefly clean, combined with a regular iso wipe and such. Since I can't find the screens now, do you by any chance know what size replacement screen I could buy from a LHS tomorrow?

 

[mitchgo61]

Normally I've just been using toothpicks and Qtips to keep the Firefly clean, combined with a regular iso wipe and such. Since I can't find the screens now, do you by any chance know what size replacement screen I could buy from a LHS tomorrow?

The screens measure approximately 1/2 inch. Anything that's close to that should fit fine. They are a wee bit smaller than .5, but one that's a little larger should still fit (you may have to dome it a bit to get the edges to slide under the glass bowl rim).

 

[JJ420]

Just got a black FF in the mail and here are my first impressions:

1.) heats up really quick and is able to reach high temps if you want it to. Seems easy to get some dark abv, though it's all about technique with this vape. It's a lot like having a manual lever espresso machine, you are in full control of your hit with this vape. I'm still trying to get my technique down, mainly how long should I allow the bowl to heat before inhaling. The manual says to hold the button down until the green flashes turn solid, but that to me seems like a very long time (10 sec) and results in too high of a temp? I've had better luck holding the button down for 5 seconds and slowly inhaling before the flashes turn solid and continuing for a few seconds after it turns solid, and then for a second or two after I let my finger off the button. Again, still experimenting with technique here...

2.) Consumption. Seems to consume far less herb than my Mighty and about on par or even slightly less than my Firewood 3. This is a big deal because for me because portables seem to run through a stash a lot quicker than with desktop logs. For instance one bowl with the Mighty equals around PD five stems! Not a fair comparison perhaps, though it does help to illustrate my point.

3.) 50 watt heater apparently?? Damn that's a lot of power, though I'd believe it as this thing will easily turn ABV dark brown if you choose to. Sweet!

 

[mulciber]

Just got a black FF in the mail and here are my first impressions:

The manual says to hold the button down until the green flashes turn solid, but that to me seems like a very long time (10 sec) and results in too high of a temp? I've had better luck holding the button down for 5 seconds and slowly inhaling before the flashes turn solid and continuing for a few seconds after it turns solid, and then for a second or two after I let my finger off the button. Again, still experimenting with technique here...

My advice is to make friends with that green light. The result will vary depending upon how many times you've drawn on the bowl, as well as how moist the material is, variety, grind, etc. But I have found that adjusting my draw to the duration of the flashing green works for me every time. The only time that it can be too much is on an entirely fresh and fragrant bowl, and then you may wish to cut out sooner than the light goes from flashing to solid. But otherwise, it's an excellent indicator.

Good luck! DGI

 

[RobDaBomb]

The screens measure approximately 1/2 inch. Anything that's close to that should fit fine. They are a wee bit smaller than .5, but one that's a little larger should still fit (you may have to dome it a bit to get the edges to slide under the glass bowl rim).

Great, thanks. I'm heading out to scout some LHS stock, hopefully I can find a reasonable priced replacement to try before contacting Firefly. They did say they'd replace my vaporizer anyway due to a mouthpiece defect it came with out of the box (I'll post a picture sometime when I find a camera that has a good enough macro mode to pick up the small mark), but I was planning on waiting to get it replaced until the Firefly 2 came out so I'd have something to use in the meantime.

Although from what it sounds in the Firefly 2 thread, I probably won't really need my original Fly again after purchasing a 2 anyway xP. Well except for the batteries and external charger, as those awesomely work on both Fly's.