Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer
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fernand
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per my previo y s question ... anybody know how best to store say 8 separate gram zip lockettes of different strains? Can I keep them as is standing open in a common humidity controlled jar? or do I have to seal and humidity control each little baggie separately?
any fantastic new storage technologies?
any fantastic new storage technologies?
Wizsteve
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Greetings people! Newbie poster here, long-time toker, switched to vapor 1 month ago. It's been awesome. No matter what vape I ever use for the rest of my life, I'm done combusting. Like, forever. Mission accomplishedI'm here because I'd like to report on my experiences with the Firefly, after attempting to switch from the Pax.
My first vape was/is the Pax. Its been great, but my main complaints with it since day one have been the amount of herb required for optimum use, and the fact that the entire chamber must be consumed in no more than 2-3 vape sessions. So, with the Pax requiring .4-.5g per fill.. (Or .2-.3g with screen trick), it has been feeling super inefficient. When I heard about the Firefly, and its ability (specialty) of only vaping a small amount of herb.. AND only vaping that herb whenever you wish to inhale, had me nearly experiencing buyer's remorse for the Pax. It seemed like I may have jumped too quickly without reading about this perfectly wonderful, efficient, convection vape.
However.. After about 8 days with the Firefly.. I'm in a bit of a pickle, and I'll tell you why, Doug:
Firstly, (and perhaps most importantly), I think my herb may be incompatable with the FF. It's good quality herb.. Always done the trick for me. I get it regularly from one source. It is the only herb I get, ever. It is not what u call sticky or fluffy.. Its more dry and compact buds, breaks down very consistently and very finely ground no matter what. (I always hand grind.) Although a fine, consistent grind is perfect for Pax, I was led to believe, from this thread, and everywhere else, that the FF is fully capable of a fine grind.. And that a course/medium is recommended, but not absolutely essential. However, so far, I'm finding this to be a big issue. In my second session with the FF, I noticed every 3rd or 5th draw, a tiny itty bitty piece of herb would catch fire. It was so small I hardly noticed it, but it was revealed in the taste and smell. Since then, I've tried breaking the bud up and only putting in the small pieces, without pouring in the "dusty" particles. Ive also sped up my draw some.. And the micro-combustion is happening much less frequently. Very rare.. But still happensAdditionally, check this out:
That, is dry herb residue beneath the screen. I've taken the screen out several times to clean that stuff out, a quick scrape and blow seems to do the job.. But it happens after every single session. Ive even noticed some of those pieces turning to ash. Probably because they linger there for so long.
So, thats the herb/grind problem. Next, the hit consistency and high:
I realize the FF takes some personal, patient getting used to.. And I feel I can make it do what I want as far as vapor production and getting a good dark ABV. (Only with frequent stirring/shaking, and not as evenly thru as Pax.) I'm also getting an entirely different high compared to Pax. But don't get me wrong, that's been kinda cool. The FF gives me this airy, uppity, (productive?) high.. But doesn't last but 30 minutes. A session with the Pax feels like a full body massage that can last for hours. Maybe that has something to do with the amount of flower used in each?
That being said, I really want to stress how great of a purchase decision this has been, for both vapes. They both seem to be polar opposites of each other, working in their own unique way, and delivering different, joyful results. Because of that, I can foresee living in harmony with both and having no regrets
So, I guess my dilemmas at the moment are that the FF doesn't seem to like my herb as much as the Pax does... And I wonder what I could do to maximize the use/effect of a single FF bowl (.1-.2g). Any advice, comments, criticisms would be appreciated!
if you don't mind modding your device i would replace the screen to one of those 10 micron ones nothing would get past that
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if you don't mind modding your device i would replace the screen to one of those 10 micron ones nothing would get past that
Where you buy that?
Okay so I brought my FF to my buddies who also has one and used his charger and the FF charged back up.
So FF is going strong still but now im thinking maybe my charger is messed up. Ive tried it in multiple outlets and still nothing.
So FF is going strong still but now im thinking maybe my charger is messed up. Ive tried it in multiple outlets and still nothing.
Vitolo
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...next step is to try his charger in your outlets if he is close-by... but I think you are beyond a maybe here!
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Jyarz.
NYC5IKH5jabi
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after 5 days I am ready to admit, this vape is very good. I am willing to live with the few drawbacks which are understandable since they cant be helped much.
im talking about battery life and smell/odor.
both are due to design and the design delivers the tastiest vapor so im not complaining much. does anyone know where to get those 10 micron screens?
what sets this vape apart and defines it imo
pure convection=pure control
im talking about battery life and smell/odor.
both are due to design and the design delivers the tastiest vapor so im not complaining much. does anyone know where to get those 10 micron screens?
what sets this vape apart and defines it imo
pure convection=pure control
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
10 micron screen. Have to cut to fit but should last awhile.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/stainless-steel-screen-mesh
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/stainless-steel-screen-mesh
Yeah, i already ordered a new charger so i guess either way ill find out in a few days. Thanks foe the help though
euph0ric1
Floating on.
@Wizsteve thanks for the screen suggestion. Thats one awesome super-fine screen. I'll definitely look into it.
However, I have two magic words: Lemon peels. I left a small sample of herb in a jar with a lemon peel for 3 hours, and the herb moistened and fluffed pretty drastically. (My herb is a commercial-grade sativa. Its good quality sensimilia green, just not the fluffy medical-grade herb the Firefly prefers.) After hydrating the bud, I was able to pull apart and separate it without it crumbing and dusting. I let a pinch of the herb dry some and put it into the FF and vaped it for a several draws. I then broke it up more and finished it. No loose debris into the screen, no overheating issues. The taste was a bit more harsh, but not too noticeable. I vaped the same sample of herb as long as I felt I could until I was getting absolutely no more vapor from it, but it seemed like it was not getting dark enough. I put the beige herb in the Pax just for kicks, and I was able to squeeze 4-5 more draws of decent vapor from it, and it came out much darker. So even if the FF doesnt vape the herb as thoroughly, thats ok. I can just feed the rest to the Pax to help fill an oven and make sure to get all I can from the bud.
Again, a big thanks to @fernand for the lemon peel suggestion.. Do humidipaks work much differently I wonder? I may pick some up just to try. Are they strictly for the "higher quality", medical grade herb?
However, I have two magic words: Lemon peels. I left a small sample of herb in a jar with a lemon peel for 3 hours, and the herb moistened and fluffed pretty drastically. (My herb is a commercial-grade sativa. Its good quality sensimilia green, just not the fluffy medical-grade herb the Firefly prefers.) After hydrating the bud, I was able to pull apart and separate it without it crumbing and dusting. I let a pinch of the herb dry some and put it into the FF and vaped it for a several draws. I then broke it up more and finished it. No loose debris into the screen, no overheating issues. The taste was a bit more harsh, but not too noticeable. I vaped the same sample of herb as long as I felt I could until I was getting absolutely no more vapor from it, but it seemed like it was not getting dark enough. I put the beige herb in the Pax just for kicks, and I was able to squeeze 4-5 more draws of decent vapor from it, and it came out much darker. So even if the FF doesnt vape the herb as thoroughly, thats ok. I can just feed the rest to the Pax to help fill an oven and make sure to get all I can from the bud.
Again, a big thanks to @fernand for the lemon peel suggestion.. Do humidipaks work much differently I wonder? I may pick some up just to try. Are they strictly for the "higher quality", medical grade herb?
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
What is your odor issue with the FF? I don't notice much smell. Everything stays nicely sealed, and it doesn't seem to throw much odor when opened, at least that I've noticed. (Glad you are digging the FF overall.)
fernand
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My FF smells a lot like like popcorn. It's a nice
toasted something smell. And even that is subtle.
It absolutely doesn't have a cannabis smell.
Lemon peels have only one drawback that I can
see, and that's a slight changing of the scent.
I found that it humidifies so quickly that 3 hours
is great for starters. The lemonization of the
fragrance is minimal then. Best not to leave in
overnight, though, and rather do another short
humi-session the next day.
I don't know if the terpenes in the lemon peel
are part of the reason for the almost miraculous
fluffing, and maybe they also have anti-fungal
properties, but it doesn't hurt to keep looking
for a zero scent solution. The Bovines (that'll
serve them for pickin' a silly name) at about $1
each could be fantastic.
A lemon peel will also equilibrate, but those
humidipacks have some sort of osmotic
trick membrane that allegedly makes them very
strongly two way in raising and lowering humidity
to maintain the target level for 3 months. And
if we want them to last longer ... maybe add a
lemon peel to the jar
On the Solo thread someone asked me if I got
more sedation with the higher temps and
I compared vaping the same herb in the FF
and the Solo at 6. The FF is a lot like using
the Solo on 3. The difference was major. The
same amount of the same purple kush was a
calm Indica in the FF and a total nose dive
in the Solo at 6. Got to bed quickly. It's not
that the FF wastes anything, just different.
I'm not a big fan of the nose dive anyway;
maybe at bedtime.
toasted something smell. And even that is subtle.
It absolutely doesn't have a cannabis smell.
Lemon peels have only one drawback that I can
see, and that's a slight changing of the scent.
I found that it humidifies so quickly that 3 hours
is great for starters. The lemonization of the
fragrance is minimal then. Best not to leave in
overnight, though, and rather do another short
humi-session the next day.
I don't know if the terpenes in the lemon peel
are part of the reason for the almost miraculous
fluffing, and maybe they also have anti-fungal
properties, but it doesn't hurt to keep looking
for a zero scent solution. The Bovines (that'll
serve them for pickin' a silly name) at about $1
each could be fantastic.
A lemon peel will also equilibrate, but those
humidipacks have some sort of osmotic
trick membrane that allegedly makes them very
strongly two way in raising and lowering humidity
to maintain the target level for 3 months. And
if we want them to last longer ... maybe add a
lemon peel to the jar
On the Solo thread someone asked me if I got
more sedation with the higher temps and
I compared vaping the same herb in the FF
and the Solo at 6. The FF is a lot like using
the Solo on 3. The difference was major. The
same amount of the same purple kush was a
calm Indica in the FF and a total nose dive
in the Solo at 6. Got to bed quickly. It's not
that the FF wastes anything, just different.
I'm not a big fan of the nose dive anyway;
maybe at bedtime.
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Wizsteve
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didn't see the 10 micron ones but they do have the 25's
http://www.316twholesale.com/#!product/prd1/1475920701/25-micron-filter-3"x-3"
NYC5IKH5jabi
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I use my ff all day about 6 to 9 full ovens a day. and I have noticed a deep burnt popcorn smell that is very intense. as soon as I pop off the top it reaches my nose right away.
I do agree that it does not smell like cannabis. it smells like a ABV grenade exploded in my palm.
natural farmer
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I might grab another Solo at some point just for night caps, not that the Lotus can't do that, it's just that the Solo might do it more silently and produce some more CBD on the way due to it's prolonged heating… Back to the Firefly!
fernand
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Oh, THAT? Well, it's kind of an ABV oven, hard to avoid, but I don't smell it with the lid closed, and it fits in an old eGo case I had, and it's well-sealed in there. At least YOU don't smell like an ashtray or a pot bonfire
In fact that eGo case is great, helps carrying the FireFly around. The fact a Solo case looks like a dictionary is one of the things about the Solo that makes it not-so-portable: its bulky shape, the glass stems, the tactical look.
In fact that eGo case is great, helps carrying the FireFly around. The fact a Solo case looks like a dictionary is one of the things about the Solo that makes it not-so-portable: its bulky shape, the glass stems, the tactical look.
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I notice this too.
I dont really notice the smell with the lid on, unless i put my nose up to side. Or if i take the lid off, both the lid and the unit smell pretty toasty.
So its not that bad if its just laying around in the open. But i keep my FF in my bedside drawer. As soon as i open up the drawer, i get a huge whiff of ABV. Maybe im just paranoid cause im used to the smell but it definitely stinks up whatever i keep the FF in.
Not really sure anything can be done about this though so were all complaining for nothing it seems.
And i guess its better than carrying around a pax which is constantly heating while in use and always smelling
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Even with the lid on?? I can't imagine how any odor leaks out of it...maybe through the airvents. Mine has no odor whatsoever when closed, and not much when open either.
Yeah, i store it with the lid on, and nothing loaded, and when i go to open whatever i keep it in (drawer, glovebox) i immediately get a huge whiff of that burnt popcorn smell. Its not a huge issue, but if it was someone elses car or drawer i would definitely know what they were doing
fernand
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Well yeah. But how often have you seen moldy citrus? The little maulduses know where mold belongs, and by gawd, I don't know why, but I've never trusted ... No! you're right. I'm gonna try some salad with the "nithin' to lose weed". it's like a Quarter that pharnaceutical ground personnel in CA sold to my Japanese buddy for $100 in lieu of his getting a MMJ card and all that. It's characteristic is that it has probably been passed from one disappointed stoner to another, in the hope someone would buy it. It's neither a high THC nor a high CBD strain; it's like a high Borneol content strain that was used as a stunt prop in DEA "brain on drugs" commercials, and causes zombie death or vacant stare couch lock for like 3 hours. Let's see how those two get along! MMA rules!
p.s. The truth is out! There's no reason to eat that crap, it's not nutritious at all, the man said it, it's just chlorophyll and water! like I need photosynthesis in my gut!
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Vitolo
Vaporist
While I no longer use this technique... having found that medical grade meds work most satisfactorily for me if they are dry, and crisp.. in the past I did have a method when younger and a smoker to maintain freshness.
I would cut a small cube of a fresh carrot.. and wrap it in foil,.... and puncture a number of holes in the cube with a pin.
This kept my meds fresh without letting them go over the limit of moisture.
For flavored freshness I did the same with a small cube of apple in foil.
As a vaporist, I now never freshen my bud.
I live in Arizona, the driest area around... and have samples of bud 3 years old, that still vape marvelously with no added freshening.
I would cut a small cube of a fresh carrot.. and wrap it in foil,.... and puncture a number of holes in the cube with a pin.
This kept my meds fresh without letting them go over the limit of moisture.
For flavored freshness I did the same with a small cube of apple in foil.
As a vaporist, I now never freshen my bud.
I live in Arizona, the driest area around... and have samples of bud 3 years old, that still vape marvelously with no added freshening.
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