The Boil That Oil Thread!

[aznfknpride]

SM-just get one of each bud, you know you're gonna end up with both anyways Like surv said, your hops jagito is PERFECT for oils... find a nice 45* curve (dosa, or labworx from ALT.com) and you're all set.

I find that the domes are better for the bigger rips, as the nail retains heat longer... domes also work better on tubes because you are able to see where you are dabbing, where as with the curve you gotta use a lot of depth perception to get your dab between the hot Ti and the curve itself. The curve is not so bad with the bubs as it is much closer to your face...

 

[Spiderman]

StoneMonkey,

The "Huff Musket," as it was dubbed, was originally a device made for hash smoking. Put a hookah coal on a graphite plate, set a lump of hash on the coal, and huff away. It could be used for oil no problem, although you will lose some potency and taste to the size of the piece.

For Domes/Ti Pads:
This is a debate that has gone for a long time. I will attempt to fairly describe each side's arguments against the other.
Case for Domes: Dome users generally claim smoother tokes, citing the "all glass" part of the set up as a benefit. However, dome users noted that a glass nail cannot vape up hits as large as a titanium pad, and also cools down much faster than the pad does. This leads to why some wanted titanium nails: the hope that titanium would hold more heat in the head of the nail than glass would. The jury is still out on titanium nails.
Case for Curves: Curve users generally claim increased taste/efficiency/potency from their rig, albeit at the cost of the hit punching you slightly harder. However, in terms of video footage, the largest hits I know of (Kut's .7, and a multitude of .3 and .4 videos) have all been done on ti.


Quoted from Surv: "All of this being said, big tubes with alot of diffusion will have a major effect on taste / BHO chest kick and a minor effect on potency."

In my experience, the taste and potency are much more effected by the increased diffusion. The "chest kick" is more of a factor of the oil you are vaping, not the piece you are vaping it from. Ti curve v oil dome does play a factor in chest kick, but I would say pipe size plays the least role in this.

 

[stonemonkey55]

thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated.

AZN - i'm getting a Supreme, is the torch that comes with it suitable for vaping?

When you guys are discussing different types of butane, is that for making the BHO or for lighting your nail/Ti pad or both?

Spidey - thanks for clarifying the main diff between domes/curves. Like AZN said, I'll probably just end up getting both to test it out first hand.

Just curious why Hashmasta pieces are so highly regarded? I took a look at their thread on TC and basically saw a lot of quotes like "I never knew what smoking oil was truly like til i smoked some oil out of hashmasta piece" and was curious if there was something "special" about those pieces.

The only thing i don't like about the hops jagito is the placement of the bowl. I'm getting a small showerhead bub from Vertigo, should be fairly small and the bowl will be below my face as opposed to above my face with the Jagito. Thoughts? Will the showerhead give too much diffusion? or is the size of the piece more important?

 

[Survivalism]

Thanks alot for posting Spidey, was hoping you would come and give your expertise.

We are discussing the tane used for making BHO, i dont think most people care what they put in their torch ( high altitude of colorado = if i dont use high quality tane my torch wont work lol )

I unfortunately have never used a kut pipe so i cant tell you exactly why its so much better then other curves / oil bubs but i can tell you that hmk spent years perfecting the design of his bubs / curves ( ever notice how no other blowers curves look remotely like a kut curve? )

I think the showerhead will be pretty damn nice man, i doubt it will have too much diffusion / be too big.

EDIT: I feel i should add this about TI pads.

The first generation of dosa curves came with some pretty thin ti, this is fine at the beginning but later on when you start taking some real hits the pad cools off too quick and you end up with a pool of wasted bho on the pad.

Dosa is now making curves with new .063 ( thickness of the ti on the kut pipe ) ti, i also think blazemaster makes curves with .063 ti.

 

[Survivalism]

I feel this deserves its own post hehe

 

[aznfknpride]

SM-the torch that the supreme comes with is subpar, wholesale china stuff... I'd just order one without the torch and buy a blazer gb2001... You're gonna want one later anyways, the blazer is a far superior product.

 

[stonemonkey55]

sweet thanks, how much does he take off if you don't order the torch?

 

[aznfknpride]

Saves you about $10, not much... Might actually be good to have as a backup, just in case.. I chose not to get one as the Korean mamasan store sells them for $8 over here lol.

 

[stonemonkey55]

hahaha, i just called Ed to ask him how much he'd take off, he said 5 bucks so I told him to just include it.

The blazer gb2001 is the shit? This is the one to get? I don't need to do anymore research on torches? If so, I'll just put in my order right now. Does it matter what kind of butane you put in this? Or just when you're making BHO?

 

[Survivalism]

Blazer torches are the shit, i personally like the look of the gb2001 ( i also believe the 2001 was their first torch ) but alot of people have the stingray and i think they make some other ones.

You could also use a bernzomatic propane torch if thats your thing, costs alot less but is not nearly as handy as a butane torch.

I dont know if their will be any problems with using low quality butane in your torch, i know i pretty much always have at least 1 can of vector around these days lol.

 

[aznfknpride]

GB2001 is the torch to get. Only problem with it is that as soon as I got mine, I wanted another.. Hahaha.I heard that it's no good to use vector in your torch (best for BHO still though) because it dries out the seals and will make your torch leak.

 

[Survivalism]

Eh im not sure how much truth their is too that, do you have any links or anything?

 

[Survivalism]

EDIT: Fogot these pics, the ehle 100..

 

[aznfknpride]

Yikes, look at all that reclaim make some BHO chocolates with that stuff, yum!

Krunk himself posted that info on GD, I'll link ya if I ever run across it again.


Dosa unit:

 

[stonemonkey55]

surv - is that just BHO that got reclaimed in your bong? Can you just scrape it out and re-use it as is?

Could you potentially just use hash as opposed to BHO with a dome or curve? or does that require higher temps to vape?

 

[Survivalism]

Yeah oil resin is referred to as reclaim, most people save it to season ti ( thats what im going to use most of my reclaim for ) or you can make some SERIOUS chocolates like azn said.

Im not really sure if you can put normal hash ( bubble? qwiso? pressed cakes? ) My gut instinct would say that it would not work but i would not be surprised if it actually did lol

Ill start using different tane in my torches, better safe then sorry.

 

[aznfknpride]

I've never tried but I'm sure FMCD would work on a Ti pad, how you would get it on there is beyond me...

I just use blazer in my torch and vector for the oil.. Figure they wouldn't make butane that didn't work well in their torches, lol.

 

[Spiderman]

SM,

It always matters what butane you put in your torch. Some people say it doesnt, but I find that even those people are buying new torches every 6-12 months. Iv got a blazer (gb2001) thats just shy of 2 years old, and it still fires like my brand new blazer I got for xmas.

As far as why HMK pipes are considered the best by some...I can only offer my own opinions. I do feel that none compare to the HMK/Ggirl ones, for the short version. I am also of the opinion that there are many reasons hmk/ggirl oil pipes are superior to all. A main factor, though, is practice. HMK has been refining his oil pipe design for years now, from when it was simple an egg cup and a piece of ti held with pliers, to the machine it is now. The result is that there are many different little design enhancements on the kutpipe that are almost impossible to replicate, without significant amounts of practice, in both making oil pipes and smoking from them.

 

[Spiderman]

Also, FMCD doesnt really work on a ti pad, goes up too slow.

 

[Hanibal Lectin]

Lots of people doing the oil.
What about bubblehash,that's what I like.

What is the best method for bubblehash?

 

[Survivalism]

Check out www.fullmeltbubble.com, they will tell you that the best method is to use bubble bags with ice water to extract.

 

[Hanibal Lectin]

sorry, meant for smoking bubblehash.
Been using my old JBD bong out of the freezer,want to upgrade.
Illadelph hot hit kit looks interesting.

 

[Survivalism]

I am not going to lie man, i have been on FC for a long time now and i dont think anyone here regularly smokes bubble.

If i am wrong please come forward...

I wish i could help you out with your questions but i know pretty much nothing about bubble.

 

[stonemonkey55]

another butane question.... do you guys mostly by this stuff online or do you find a local source... Ive been going to liquor stores and only find the Bronson shit... maybe home depot? mail order?

 

[Survivalism]

You can buy it online in the case and master case form, most of us have spent a long time finding a local source though.

You want to check head shops, cigar bars / lounges / shops, tobacco shops, stuff like that. I have heard of liquor stores carrying it but its not as common.

Ask / call around.. make sure to ask if they do price cuts if you buy a case.

The prices online are alright ( unless their is a site i was missing ) but the online prices can easily be beat in person because of the cost of hazardous shipping on the tane.