The Boil That Oil Thread!

[aznfknpride]

I know.. I ordered a GB2001 off of amazon, it was supposed to come with a free can of blazer butane.. Two weeks passed by, no torch/butane.. I checked amazon, guess I missed the email explaining that they couldn't ship to HI lol

 

[Durden]

Azn do you think the stemline is too much diffusion for oil hits? I've always used dries or less with oil, the inverted 4 I just got is my smallest tube yet and I was planning on using it for oil in the coming weeks. I'm probably going to try it out anyway to compare to an ashcatcher bubbler setup I've recently been given, especially if the main difference is taste and not potency.
Another thing while I'm asking you random questions , have you used your Ti swing with bubble? I've been breaking it up and topping off my vhw bowls but a more pure method would obviously be nice.

 

[aznfknpride]

Yep, I think it's too much diffusion.. The oil rip is smooth but the taste is greatly affected... Smaller the piece, the better. The AC/bub combo would definitely better (esp. if it was free!). I've never tried bubble with the swing, I usually just smoke bubble on a screen.

 

[minnesnowta]

Well that's good to know. We changed the water 3 times and let it go for about an hour and 15 min. Then brought it in and put it over low heat for a short time. It was like -10 out so that probaly didn't help. I got a couple things I need to change. I'd like to get an electric hot plate to keep the water warmer longer and I need some different pans.

 

[Survivalism]

You can also put some boiling water into a thermos and bring that outside with you.


Im pretty damn sure im going to pick up one of those bubs, shinobi glass thinks their is 7 slits with 3 holes a slit, not too much for oil in their opinion

i have not heard back from dosa about my dish or about the updated ti i have been reading about but i am looking at picking up a new curve with some thicker ti but i dont know who makes curves with ti thicker then dosa ( looking for HMK thickness.. its that thick for a reason i suspect )

 

[aznfknpride]

Yeah man.. Looks great for the price! As far as thicker Ti goes, Dosa does have some so you might just wanna hang tight on that one. Otherwise I think blazemasta uses .063 Ti, not sure though.

 

[Survivalism]

Hopefully ill hear back from him soon, do you think the 21 holes from this bubbler would have an effect on taste? I have only used oil in my ehle tubes with their stock downstems so i dont have any experience with highly filtered oil.

 

[aznfknpride]

Hrmmm. I think the volume of my tubes affect the taste as well... I think the taste shouldn't be affected too much, I think it'll work just fine I'd love to see some milks

 

[Survivalism]

Yeah i asked them how tall the bubbler was and told them i have been using an ehle 100 so we will see if the volume is similar ( hopefully they will know )

Ill know pretty soon if im going to snag it or not.. and if i do of coarse i will provide some milk.

I have taken some vids recently but none of them came out well at all so i didnt post them


EDIT: Im going through serious Glass Market withdrawals as well lol

 

[minnesnowta]

We actualy kept a giant pot of water boiling and refilled the smaller one with boiling water 3 times in that 75 min. How long do you guys generaly purge for???

 

[Survivalism]

I let the pan sit outside until all the standing butane has boiled away ( i can tilt the pan and not see anything move ) and then take it inside to purge on the stove.

I think my purges have been way too hot and thus way too fast.. from spray to scrape id say its probably 30 minutes maybe less.

Damn dude that sucks that it takes 75 minutes with boiling water >.<

 

[aznfknpride]

I feel ya on the bad videos... I make a lot of them lol. Half of them I toss out because for some odd reason there is always a girls gone wild commercial blaring on the TV in the background lol.

I think the volume is perfect for an oil piece.. For size comparison, I use the joint as a size reference. I just looked at it again and it looks like it has a little less volume than my skull piece. Def going thru the glass market withdrawals as well, I need to sell some glass...

For purging, I just go til the big bubbles stop forming. I only use hot tap water, gonna try a little hotter to see if I'm undercooking my oil.

 

[Survivalism]

Haha funny shit

Oh by the way i stop purging when bubbles stop flaming up ( i pop my bubbles with a torch during purge )

Im stolked about that bubbler, i would say their is a good chance i will pick it up. Thanks man

 

[minnesnowta]

Is it possible to over purge it??? And what happens if so?

 

[Survivalism]

It is indeed possible to over-purge but im not sure what the effects are, i would consult with spidey

 

[aznfknpride]

Overcooking the oil makes it dark and runny, it def does not taste as good either. Need to do more experiments, I just got a smaller extractor (3.5gs) so I can do 2 runs every week instead of just 1... Practice makes perfect!

 

[minnesnowta]

I got a ss turkey baster so ~6 to fill it I think. It was 5.5 last time. And that was the time we purged for 75 min and it turned out like a rock and was a dark amber color so I thought it was gonna be pretty good. It just seemed to have a weird taste to it and I dunno if that's what it was supposed to taste like or not. I need to get more butane and run more. I think I'm gonna get a bunch of schwag to just get this process down before I start usin good bud. I want to give my dome alot more use and I got some good friends I wanna let try as well. Well see hopefully soon I'll be able to make another go at it.

 

[Survivalism]

Just thought i would fill you guys in, i am currently waiting for the arrival of my Slim bub and another curve with thicker ti from dosa

 

[aznfknpride]

Nice! I can't wait to see that thing in action!!

 

[stonemonkey55]

ok fuckers i think ive done enough reading where i want to give this a try. can someone run me thru the basics of what i need to get started?

 

[Survivalism]

About time


Your going to need this stuff:

Extraction tube ( SSTB, have a blower make you a glass tube.. etc.. i got my SSTB from Bed Bath and Beyond )

Coffee filters ( brown ones are best )

nylon zip ties / hose clamp

razor blades ( you want to get the "safety blade" type, i would look at auto zone or similar )

pyrex pie plate ( when you are picking it out, check to make sure the bottom of the pan is concave ( lowest point is in the center .. thanks spidey! hehe )

Skillet that will fit the above pie plate in a double boiler fashion

Butane, i recommend vector

something to pack down your tube ( i use an old butter knife )

something to pick out the herb once its been taned ( i use a skewer with a bent tip on it and just push
the material out the large opening )

Torch ( blazer gb2001 is recommended, im waiting on mine to arrive and have been using my bed bath and beyond crembrule torch lol )

dabber ( i use a dental pick from walmart )

oil dishes ( not needed but.. come on )

Ti curve / dome with TI nail


Lol i think thats everything.. send me an email if you have any questions.

 

[stonemonkey55]

thanks... so what are the pros and cons over the two main styles, dome or swing/curve (am i using the right terminology?) I've watched videos of both and understand how they work but was wondering why one would choose one style over the other.

is this thing any good? http://www.aqualabtechnologies.com/...ssential-vaaapp-portable-vaporizer-black.html

 

[Survivalism]

Well before the TI nail came out it was all about the ti curve ( yeah you got the right terminology ) because the ti pad provided better taste after being seasoned then people were getting from glass nails.

With the invention of the TI nail for domes i think it now boils down to personal preference.

With a dome you have the extra top dome part that can be broken / lost

With a ti pad if your not carefull big hits ( like pretty big ) will run right off the pad. ( mostly a problem with new people who wont hold the piece level even though thats one of the rules.. lol )

I only have experience with curves though so if someone else who owns a dome / both wants to chime in that would be great.


EDIT: I have looked at that essential vape many times, but honestly if you are going to go through the trouble of making BHO, pick up some propper TI

 

[stonemonkey55]

any idea on how this bad boy works? is it built especially for oil?

http://www.aqualabtechnologies.com/medical-glassware/glass-utensils/luke-wilson-musket.html

 

[Survivalism]

I believe that that was indeed made for oil ( comes with 2 glass "knives" )

It looks like you put your hot knife below the base, in the "musket" and then it draws air up from their into the perc.

In the oil world, smaller and less diffusion is better, the hops jagito you have is pretty much perfect.

I would take a took at the HMK Kut pipes in the vaporizer section of tokecity if you have not yet, those are the perfect oil vapes, fine tuned by kut himself for years, takes a year wait to get one though.

Most blowers make oil specific mini bubs ( dosa has been killing this scene lately, his bubs look like kut pipes )


All of this being said, big tubes with alot of diffusion will have a major effect on taste / BHO chest kick and a minor effect on potency.