lwien
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Gary Johnson is the only candidate on all 50 ballots, who is capable of breaking that cycle.
But if he's not capable of being in any position to breaking that cycle, what does it matter?
Gary Johnson is the only candidate on all 50 ballots, who is capable of breaking that cycle.
I've voted third party many times in the hope that party garnered enough votes to be taken seriously in the next election. It has never worked.But if he's not capable of being in any position to breaking that cycle, what does it matter?
I've voted third party many times in the hope that party garnered enough votes to be taken seriously in the next election. It has never worked.
The flushing away of vote was comically described by a Doonesbury thread long ago where Zonker was leaving the sound a a flush on the pull of the voting lever and, as he leaves the booth, flashed the Victory sign while calling out "Perot!".
We can only hope. As I've written earlier in this thread, while not a Libertarian, it is the party that most closely aligns with the majority of my beliefs so I am naturally drawn to them.Difference is this is the first election where the main 2 parties have effectively been destroyed. Next election is going to be historic considering the state of the two parties.
Difference is this is the first election where the main 2 parties have effectively been destroyed. Next election is going to be historic considering the state of the two parties.
The GOP is in a shambles. The Democrats are are not and in comparison, are very well united. Nothing wrong with the Dems. It's their flawed candidate that's the issue. The same thing can't be said for the GOP.
I can almost say with certainty that either of the two present candidates would be a single term candidate. My question is who will be the next Democratic candidate? For me, Michelle or someone as bright, nurturing and positive as she is is what this country needs.
Come on man, you have to be able to look in the mirror sometimes. The favoring of Clinton by the DNC wasn't just done by Clinton, the DNC was heavily involved. To put the blame on one candidate is ignoring the real issue here. Clinton's email scandal highlighted the corruption of this system, but anybody else could have done the same. You have a situation where tons of centrist Democrats are willing to vote for a far left Social Democrat (Sanders) despite their differences on issues, because they feel the mainstream Democratic party has become as corrupt and nepotistic as the Republican party.
And Michelle Obama as president would be awful... we don't need more family rule, this country isn't a monarchy. What's next, Chelsea Clinton? Bushs' Daughter? Americans are fed up with Clintons and Bushs running things. If we elected Michelle it would send the message to our childen that in order to be president you have to be related or close to those in power.
No, to say it is impossible is to say if every time you sit down for an interview you say something totally ignorant or even stupid, or stick out your tongue while talking like an adolescent you are not going to be elected to the President of the United States.No he probably won't win, but to say it is impossible is to say democracy is dead.
No, to say it is impossible is to say if every time you sit down for an interview you say something totally ignorant or even stupid, or stick out your tongue while talking like an adolescent you are not going to be elected to the President of the United States.
If democracy is dying, and I agree it is sick, it is not because Gary Johnson won't be elected. If he COULD be, it would be another example of its sickness.
What makes you think you'd know if they died?Thanks for your opinion, but I know it's coming from a place of unwavering support for Clinton so I will take it with a massive grain of salt.
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So if Clinton, Kane, Trump, Pence, and Stein were to all drop out or die in a freak accident then Johnson could possibly get elected. It is technically possible, unless of course democracy is not allowed to prevail.
- not able to occur, exist, or be done.
The word you are looking for is improbable.
Thanks for your opinion, but I know it's coming from a place of unwavering support for Clinton so I will take it with a massive grain of salt.
im·pos·si·ble
imˈpäsəb(ə)l/
adjective
So if Clinton, Kane, Trump, Pence, and Stein were to all drop out or die in a freak accident then Johnson could possibly get elected. It is technically possible, unless of course democracy is not allowed to prevail.
- not able to occur, exist, or be done.
The word you are looking for is improbable.
Maybe, maybe not. Much as I hate to say it, the fat lady has not yet sung.Some days I'm too busy to keep up with this thread and catching up makes my head hurt. We can debate the what-ifs and how-comes all we want but this election is down to Trump and HRC now.....period.
Can't wait till tonight's debate. If Hillary stays the course or improves a little, and that is her platform, she can lock this thing down tonight.
The only clown in this race is drumpf; johnson has issues but touched? He ran a state, and did it well.Except he is touched and I'm not voting for any clowns this cycle.
As third parties go I'm more on the green side, so yeah libertarian is not a natural fit for me either.Johnson is not curling my toes...
Up next is jeb(!)'s son, the 50% hispanic george p. bush, a rising gop superstar from dallasWhat's next, Chelsea Clinton? Bushs' Daughter?
Today’s Rasmussen Reports White House Watch telephone and online survey shows Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump each picking up 42% support among Likely U.S. Voters. Seven percent (7%) still prefer Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, while one percent (1%) opt for Green Party nominee Jill Stein. But three percent (3%) like some other candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided.
If johnson decides to (go completely insane and) endorse drumpf, this race would be overIf democracy is dying, and I agree it is sick, it is not because Gary Johnson won't be elected. If he COULD be, it would be another example of its sickness.