The 2016 Presidential Candidates Thread
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
That is about as smart as going to war into Iraq after 911. The country had a weird mindset too. I felt like I couldnt even question the fact that the country was going to war. People would get mad at me. I felt I couldnt voice my opinion.
This whole thing about Syrian refugees feels like that mentality after 911 with the lawmakers - that batshit mentality. France isn't even stopping helping the refugees.
What a bunch of chicken shits is what Europe is saying.
This whole thing about Syrian refugees feels like that mentality after 911 with the lawmakers - that batshit mentality. France isn't even stopping helping the refugees.
What a bunch of chicken shits is what Europe is saying.
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Chill Dude
Well-Known Member
Yes, I heard that the House passed that legislation, however, it will never pass in the Senate!
Trump is a first class jackass.. The only thing Trump has said lately is " I'll Bomb the shit out of ISIS". Sorry Trump, it's not that simple. Reporters ask the guy for details on his plan to defeat ISIS and he really can't articulate any plan at all. he's like a caveman... Me great, me defeat ISIS, Me make America great again. Details Mr. Trump... He has no clue when it comes to foreign policy and fighting terrorism. He just speaks in sound bites...
little maggie
Well-Known Member
It seems like the country made a major political shift after 9/11 because of fear that led to increased restrictions in general. So much of this process with current Republican actions seems to be moving closer to Fascism.
grokit
well-worn member
Good luck with that!
Hillary Clinton’s War Record – 100% For Genocide
"In addition to her history regarding the Syrian and Libyan crises, it should never be forgotten that Hillary Clinton has supported virtually every military conflict launched during and since her husband’s [presidency]."
I edited the quote because this article was written by a right-wing clinton hater. But she's more of a hawk than bubba ever was. She's all in on this regime-change crap that started all the bs over there
Chill Dude
Well-Known Member
I agree, the conservatives are engaging in fear mongering, and apparently it's working. Recent polls show that Americans favor stopping the Syrian refugee program by a slight margin. I think it was 52%..
lwien
Well-Known Member
This all kind of reminds me of the time we rounded up all of the Americans of Japanese decent (even if they were born here) and put them into camps during WWII.
We now look back on that as a major blight in our history and yet, here we are at the cusp of repeating it.
It's all based on one thing...................fear.
We now look back on that as a major blight in our history and yet, here we are at the cusp of repeating it.
It's all based on one thing...................fear.
Gunky
Well-Known Member
Then what, is he going to make them all wear a crescent insignia on their clothing, and paint symbols on their homes and businesses and one night go and smash all the windows...? I can't even recognize the country (or at least the Republican Party) that is taking this in and so few speaking out against it.
lwien
Well-Known Member
The really scary part about all this is a recent poll that stated that the majority of Americans do not want to take in Syrian refugees into their states so it seems that the GOP has the majority of Americans ears on this issue.
-----http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-18/bloomberg-poll-most-americans-oppose-syrian-refugee-resettlement
grokit
well-worn member
If not crescents then stars of david or burning crosses,
I suppose it really depends on the hate du jour
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lwien
Well-Known Member
If not crescents then stars of david or burning crosses,
I suppose it really depends on the hate du jour
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..."Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
---Emma Lazarus
Besides this quote emblazoned on the Statue of Liberty, there are countless quotes from the New Testament that is the basis of Christianity, but yet.......???
I guess fear trumps (pardon the play on words) just about everything including the basic philosophy behind the cornerstones of both the United States and our most practiced religion.
The hypocrisy of right winged religious conservatives who constantly throw love of God and Country around like confetti contrasted by their words and actions is astounding.
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His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Trump is dumb like a fox in this case....he doesn't need to fill in the blanks to gain the support he needs for his republican base so why would he? Details are an exposure to him and everyone else. He wouldn't get away with this if his base were democrats because democrats REQUIRE and EXPECT details they can analyze/think through.
The sound bites remind me of other similar issues but I'll restrict myself to one....low income housing....so many people are for it....just not in their neighborhood.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Oh my fucking God...
Trump crosses new line, endorses database for Muslim Americans
11/20/15 08:00 AM—Updated 11/20/15 01:35 PM
By Steve Benen
The Republican presidential candidates’ reactions to last week’s terrorist violence in Paris has, at various times, been bewildering and depressing. Far-right politicians, eager to exploit fear and bigotry, have spent the week playing on conservatives’ worst instincts. It’s been about as ugly as American politics can get.
But even in the crowd, Donald Trump has stood out as … unique.
There’s been a gradual evolution to the frontrunner’s posture over the course of several days. On Monday, for example, Trump told MSNBC that he would grudgingly have to “strongly consider” using government power to shut down American houses of worship as part of an anti-Muslim agenda. On Tuesday, he went a little further, saying that when it comes to the government closing religious institutions, “We’re going to have no choice.”
When Trump sat down with Yahoo News, and a reporter raised the possibility of registering Muslims in a government database or creating special forms of identification for Muslim Americans, Trump responded, “We’re going to have to – we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely.”
There is, of course, a significant difference between failing to answer a specific question directly and making an explicit policy pronouncement – which is why, as Rachel reported at the top of last night’s show, Trump’s latest comments are so important.
Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for president, told NBC News on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement” a database system tracking Muslims in the United States.
“I would certainly implement that. Absolutely,” Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town hall events.
I think most reasonable people should be able to agree we’ve entered some pretty dangerous territory.
Here’s the transcript of the exchange between Trump and NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard from an event in Iowa.
NBC: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims of this country?
TRUMP: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today, you can do it. But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happening –
NBC: Is that something your White House would like to do?
TRUMP: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.
Asked how a Trump administration would actually get Muslim Americans “registered,” the Republican candidate responded, “It would be just good management.” Asked if that would include going into mosques, Trump added, “To different places. You sign them up at different – but it’s all about management. Our country has no management.”
At another event, the same NBC News reporter asked, “Mr. Trump, why would Muslim databases not be the same thing as requiring Jews to register in Nazi Germany? What would be the difference? Is there a difference between the two?”
The candidate replied, “You tell me. Why don’t you tell me?” When pressed further on what the consequences might be for Americans who don’t register, Trump walked away and didn’t respond.
I’m going to skip the “has he finally gone too far” analysis because, let’s face it, that question has come and gone, over and over again, in recent months. In each instance, Trump’s support remains largely unaffected.
Indeed, it’s entirely possible that much of the radicalized Republican Party will be entirely comfortable with Trump’s latest comments. Public Policy Polling has found more than one-in-four GOP voters is on board with the idea of the government closing down every mosque in the United States. Roughly half of the Republican voters in Iowa believe practicing Islam in America should be illegal.
Trump, in other words, is giving voice to a radicalism that already exists in his far-right party.
But that does not mean the mainstream political world should simply roll its eyes, shrug its shoulders, and laugh this off as “Trump being Trump.” The idea of the federal government creating a registry of a religious minority, requiring Americans to enter some kind of federal database, is as disgusting an idea as has been offered by any major-party presidential candidate in generations.
This is not politics as usual. It’s far, far worse – and it is terrifying.
Trump crosses new line, endorses database for Muslim Americans
11/20/15 08:00 AM—Updated 11/20/15 01:35 PM
By Steve Benen
The Republican presidential candidates’ reactions to last week’s terrorist violence in Paris has, at various times, been bewildering and depressing. Far-right politicians, eager to exploit fear and bigotry, have spent the week playing on conservatives’ worst instincts. It’s been about as ugly as American politics can get.
But even in the crowd, Donald Trump has stood out as … unique.
There’s been a gradual evolution to the frontrunner’s posture over the course of several days. On Monday, for example, Trump told MSNBC that he would grudgingly have to “strongly consider” using government power to shut down American houses of worship as part of an anti-Muslim agenda. On Tuesday, he went a little further, saying that when it comes to the government closing religious institutions, “We’re going to have no choice.”
When Trump sat down with Yahoo News, and a reporter raised the possibility of registering Muslims in a government database or creating special forms of identification for Muslim Americans, Trump responded, “We’re going to have to – we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely.”
There is, of course, a significant difference between failing to answer a specific question directly and making an explicit policy pronouncement – which is why, as Rachel reported at the top of last night’s show, Trump’s latest comments are so important.
Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for president, told NBC News on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement” a database system tracking Muslims in the United States.
“I would certainly implement that. Absolutely,” Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town hall events.
I think most reasonable people should be able to agree we’ve entered some pretty dangerous territory.
Here’s the transcript of the exchange between Trump and NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard from an event in Iowa.
NBC: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims of this country?
TRUMP: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today, you can do it. But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happening –
NBC: Is that something your White House would like to do?
TRUMP: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.
Asked how a Trump administration would actually get Muslim Americans “registered,” the Republican candidate responded, “It would be just good management.” Asked if that would include going into mosques, Trump added, “To different places. You sign them up at different – but it’s all about management. Our country has no management.”
At another event, the same NBC News reporter asked, “Mr. Trump, why would Muslim databases not be the same thing as requiring Jews to register in Nazi Germany? What would be the difference? Is there a difference between the two?”
The candidate replied, “You tell me. Why don’t you tell me?” When pressed further on what the consequences might be for Americans who don’t register, Trump walked away and didn’t respond.
I’m going to skip the “has he finally gone too far” analysis because, let’s face it, that question has come and gone, over and over again, in recent months. In each instance, Trump’s support remains largely unaffected.
Indeed, it’s entirely possible that much of the radicalized Republican Party will be entirely comfortable with Trump’s latest comments. Public Policy Polling has found more than one-in-four GOP voters is on board with the idea of the government closing down every mosque in the United States. Roughly half of the Republican voters in Iowa believe practicing Islam in America should be illegal.
Trump, in other words, is giving voice to a radicalism that already exists in his far-right party.
But that does not mean the mainstream political world should simply roll its eyes, shrug its shoulders, and laugh this off as “Trump being Trump.” The idea of the federal government creating a registry of a religious minority, requiring Americans to enter some kind of federal database, is as disgusting an idea as has been offered by any major-party presidential candidate in generations.
This is not politics as usual. It’s far, far worse – and it is terrifying.
Chill Dude
Well-Known Member
Trump has really gone extreme Right politically. Although I'd consider his views more reactionary and Facist similar to the Nazis..the media always likes to use the word radical, but historically radicalism is associated with the far left and using revolution to achieve social justice. It gets kind of confusing..
Edit: what's next Muslim concentration camps and extermination of this group of people Just like the Jews in the Holocaust?. This is a crazy and dangerous position Trump is taking!!
Edit: what's next Muslim concentration camps and extermination of this group of people Just like the Jews in the Holocaust?. This is a crazy and dangerous position Trump is taking!!
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Gunky
Well-Known Member
The story is becoming less and less Trumpy himself - we already knew he was a bigot and proud of it - and more and more a Republican party which agrees with him. Rubio tried to thread the needle without actually condemning Trump. Shameful. Christy bragged that he wouldn't let in Syrian toddlers. Cruz thinks Trumpy has some good ideas. 
Bush thinks a religious test for refugees is ok. The list goes on. All of these people have disqualified themselves for the office of Prez. Nay, it goes beyond that. They are, in their pandering, betraying our heritage, hurting their Moslem neighbors, hurting the unity and cohesion of our country, hurting the country in our relations abroad, hurting our chances of solving the current conflicts, ISIL, and terrorism.
Bush thinks a religious test for refugees is ok. The list goes on. All of these people have disqualified themselves for the office of Prez. Nay, it goes beyond that. They are, in their pandering, betraying our heritage, hurting their Moslem neighbors, hurting the unity and cohesion of our country, hurting the country in our relations abroad, hurting our chances of solving the current conflicts, ISIL, and terrorism.
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cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
There was a (Democrat) mayor talking positively the other day about the Japanese Internment Camps. Paraphrase: If FDR thought it was necessary maybe we should too...
Here is a link to more: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-shadow-of-korematsu/416634/
Here is a link to more: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-shadow-of-korematsu/416634/
His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
These kind of statements energize the part of his base that still question Obama's birth demographics and certificate. And as I alluded to above, when he doesn't get into details and sticks to the sound bites this works too. I don't know whether to laugh or cry....
None of this should come as a surprise .... the veil was lifted on how low he could go and still be kept around when he made that ridiculous, embarrassing and distasteful statement about John McCain being a POW and didn't get shown the door. I can't even get myself to put that statement between quotes it's so hurtful, sad.
I've had folks close to me say that Trump has tapped into the disgust felt by the average American.... When I've countered with the McCain incident they just say he made a mistake because he's not a professional politician. My favorite was the person who said he wasn't presidential material but makes a great 'fluffer' for the party. I had never heard the term before so I asked what he meant and was told it meant Trump's statements are energizing the republicans for the real candidate whoever that turns out to be and he'll get out of the way when the real race begins. I hope so. If you want a good laugh look up the term 'fluffer' and apply the alternate meaning.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
It's like the Tea Party's mentality has blanketed the whole Republican Party. They have all disqualified themselves from being president.
Ben Carson yesterday was caught saying refugees are like rabid dogs. That guy is a whack job the more I hear him talk.
What a bunch of hate mongers. They are stirring up the American people to think like they do.
I am glad of the things that Obama is saying. He really makes the republicans look bad. He can raise above their stupidity.
Most of the things the republicans are saying is embarrassing as an American.
Ben Carson yesterday was caught saying refugees are like rabid dogs. That guy is a whack job the more I hear him talk.
What a bunch of hate mongers. They are stirring up the American people to think like they do.
I am glad of the things that Obama is saying. He really makes the republicans look bad. He can raise above their stupidity.
Most of the things the republicans are saying is embarrassing as an American.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
It doesn't surprise me that Trump is saying dumb things or that he isn't kind of guy who cares about ANYTHING over himself. That ship sailed some time ago. Trump may be the most well known narcissist on the entire planet. His self aggrandizement and self love is legendary. So nothing shocking there.
What amazes me is that he MUST have some highly paid advisers who DO understand the potential effect of the distance he has gone over the line. That HAVE to be telling him he has to stop if he has ANY hope of becoming President. And he must be totally ignoring them.
I just don't get it. Or maybe he is just SO sure of himself that he HAS no advisers. And I don't get that either. Maybe that comes along with that level of self delusion...
What amazes me is that he MUST have some highly paid advisers who DO understand the potential effect of the distance he has gone over the line. That HAVE to be telling him he has to stop if he has ANY hope of becoming President. And he must be totally ignoring them.
I just don't get it. Or maybe he is just SO sure of himself that he HAS no advisers. And I don't get that either. Maybe that comes along with that level of self delusion...
lwien
Well-Known Member
The Republican base is totally behind him and it's that Republican base that has the strongest voter turnout and it's that strong turnout in lieu of a strong turnout that opposes him that scares me. If we have a strong voter turnout across the board, both Republicans and Dems, there is no way in hell that he can win either the primary or the general but if there is a general weak turnout across both parties (with the exception of the far right GOP base), heaven help us.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I have to give the republican base more credit than that. The 5 or 10% that are as far off the page as he is, yes, they are capable of making THAT bad a decision. But I can't believe there are enough of them to actually win an election or even agree with that corrupt a position.
I don't tend to be pollyannish but I refuse to believe that enough of our population is morally bankrupt enough to actually support the kind of ideas he is promulgating. I have been disappointed by the American people before, like in 2004, but this is just a bridge too far and I cannot believe we as a nation have come to this. I will not.
I don't tend to be pollyannish but I refuse to believe that enough of our population is morally bankrupt enough to actually support the kind of ideas he is promulgating. I have been disappointed by the American people before, like in 2004, but this is just a bridge too far and I cannot believe we as a nation have come to this. I will not.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I'm not sure I'm buying this, but it is certainly worth considering and keeping in mind. And if it IS correct, things are way worse than they seem... 
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November 21, 2015 8:45 AM
It Really Is Trump’s Republican Party Now
I can’t help but take another opportunity to mock the Republican establishment and the mainstream press for believing that Donald Trump and Ben Carson were mere entertaining flashes in the pan until the “real” candidates Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio could take over. It’s important to bring this up again because pundits should be held accountable to make not only informative and intelligent commentary but also accurate predictions. A political analyst who spends months predicting the fall of a candidate who shows not only resilience but a towering increase in polling over that time clearly fails to understand the subject s/he is talking about in such a profound way that their credibility and expertise should be permanently undermined.
Sadly, most of the political press has shown itself to be less than credible in describing and predicting the Republican Party and its choice of candidates for President. In spite all of the prophecies of his decline, Donald Trump has surged into an overwhelming lead in the latest polls for the Republican race. No matter how many gobsmacked stories about his remarkable ignorance of public policy are published, Ben Carson continues to hold onto second place per polling averages. And despite all the many predictions that the race would come down to outsider Ted Cruz against establishment candidate Marco Rubio, the latest poll shows Ted Cruz far outpacing Rubio, but still in a tie with Carson and very far behind Trump.
As for Marco Rubio, the leading establishment candidate? Well, after seeing Donald Trump threaten to create (wildly unconstitutional) national registries of Muslims in the United States, Rubio decided to up the ante by pushing for unconstitutional government spying measures in order to shut down any locations where muslims might gather, from mosques to diners. At a time when the anti-establishment GOP candidates are saying increasingly outlandish and terrifying things that, at the risk of fulfilling Godwin’s Law, can only be described as proto-fascist, the leading establishment candidate isn’t pushing back but rather doubling down on the crazy.
By doing so, Rubio is conceding what should by now already be obvious to even the D.C. pundit circruit: the GOP is Donald Trump’s party now. Whether Mr. Trump is the eventual nominee or not, Trumpism (or Carsonism, in its more mild-mannered but equally extremist form) is what GOP voters want. And lagging not far behind is the despised government shutdown huckster Ted Cruz. Collectively they represent 64% of the GOP vote, in addition to the smattering of support garnered by far less prominent anti-establishment candidates. That’s what the party is now. Meanwhile, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Marco Rubio combined can’t even manage to pull down a fifth of GOP voters between them.
Journalists need to acknowledge this reality. Trumpism is not a passing fad in an otherwise responsible GOP electorate. It’s all that’s left of a Republican Party that long since gave up any pretense at serious governance and instead became the unapologetic, Koch-owned plutocratic political arm of the resentment-fueled outrage machine created by talk radio, Fox News, and Breitbart.
It’s possible, of course, that Rubio or Bush could still win the nomination and I’ll be left eating crow. Political scientists love to point to the history of Republican primaries toying with outsider candidates but settling down with the boring guy who is next in line, and jaded analysts love to claim that nothing ever really changes in politics. Usually they would be right. But as Malcolm Gladwell would be the first to point out, sometimes paradigms do shift, and sometimes tipping points get reached. It seems to me that the GOP’s Southern Strategy/Tea Party monster has finally broken free of its cage and its master is powerless to control it anymore.
Good journalism shouldn’t continue to pretend that both partisan sides of American politics are equally extreme, and that the best public policy lies in middle-of-the-road compromise between the two. Good journalism should analyze and expose the fact that we now have a unilateral problem centered in the Republican Party, and try to figure out how to keep Americans adequately informed of that so that we can right the ship before it’s too late.
by David Atkins
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November 21, 2015 8:45 AM
It Really Is Trump’s Republican Party Now
I can’t help but take another opportunity to mock the Republican establishment and the mainstream press for believing that Donald Trump and Ben Carson were mere entertaining flashes in the pan until the “real” candidates Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio could take over. It’s important to bring this up again because pundits should be held accountable to make not only informative and intelligent commentary but also accurate predictions. A political analyst who spends months predicting the fall of a candidate who shows not only resilience but a towering increase in polling over that time clearly fails to understand the subject s/he is talking about in such a profound way that their credibility and expertise should be permanently undermined.
Sadly, most of the political press has shown itself to be less than credible in describing and predicting the Republican Party and its choice of candidates for President. In spite all of the prophecies of his decline, Donald Trump has surged into an overwhelming lead in the latest polls for the Republican race. No matter how many gobsmacked stories about his remarkable ignorance of public policy are published, Ben Carson continues to hold onto second place per polling averages. And despite all the many predictions that the race would come down to outsider Ted Cruz against establishment candidate Marco Rubio, the latest poll shows Ted Cruz far outpacing Rubio, but still in a tie with Carson and very far behind Trump.
As for Marco Rubio, the leading establishment candidate? Well, after seeing Donald Trump threaten to create (wildly unconstitutional) national registries of Muslims in the United States, Rubio decided to up the ante by pushing for unconstitutional government spying measures in order to shut down any locations where muslims might gather, from mosques to diners. At a time when the anti-establishment GOP candidates are saying increasingly outlandish and terrifying things that, at the risk of fulfilling Godwin’s Law, can only be described as proto-fascist, the leading establishment candidate isn’t pushing back but rather doubling down on the crazy.
By doing so, Rubio is conceding what should by now already be obvious to even the D.C. pundit circruit: the GOP is Donald Trump’s party now. Whether Mr. Trump is the eventual nominee or not, Trumpism (or Carsonism, in its more mild-mannered but equally extremist form) is what GOP voters want. And lagging not far behind is the despised government shutdown huckster Ted Cruz. Collectively they represent 64% of the GOP vote, in addition to the smattering of support garnered by far less prominent anti-establishment candidates. That’s what the party is now. Meanwhile, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Marco Rubio combined can’t even manage to pull down a fifth of GOP voters between them.
Journalists need to acknowledge this reality. Trumpism is not a passing fad in an otherwise responsible GOP electorate. It’s all that’s left of a Republican Party that long since gave up any pretense at serious governance and instead became the unapologetic, Koch-owned plutocratic political arm of the resentment-fueled outrage machine created by talk radio, Fox News, and Breitbart.
It’s possible, of course, that Rubio or Bush could still win the nomination and I’ll be left eating crow. Political scientists love to point to the history of Republican primaries toying with outsider candidates but settling down with the boring guy who is next in line, and jaded analysts love to claim that nothing ever really changes in politics. Usually they would be right. But as Malcolm Gladwell would be the first to point out, sometimes paradigms do shift, and sometimes tipping points get reached. It seems to me that the GOP’s Southern Strategy/Tea Party monster has finally broken free of its cage and its master is powerless to control it anymore.
Good journalism shouldn’t continue to pretend that both partisan sides of American politics are equally extreme, and that the best public policy lies in middle-of-the-road compromise between the two. Good journalism should analyze and expose the fact that we now have a unilateral problem centered in the Republican Party, and try to figure out how to keep Americans adequately informed of that so that we can right the ship before it’s too late.
by David Atkins
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
NEWS
Ben Carson has a painting of him with Jesus
By Lindsay Putnam
Ben Carson has this painting of him with Jesus in his home in Upperco, Md. Photo: WireImage; Mark Makela
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I think it's a creepy looking picture. I think Ben Carson is weird too - a very different personality. I do know he's a 7th day Adventist. I believe a separation between church and state. I don't practice a religion but I respect the rights of others. While growing up I lived with my mom and dad. My mom was very religious.
I don't think a president should bring up his religion. His religion should be a private matter.
Ben Carson has a painting of him with Jesus
By Lindsay Putnam
Ben Carson has this painting of him with Jesus in his home in Upperco, Md. Photo: WireImage; Mark Makela
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I think it's a creepy looking picture. I think Ben Carson is weird too - a very different personality. I do know he's a 7th day Adventist. I believe a separation between church and state. I don't practice a religion but I respect the rights of others. While growing up I lived with my mom and dad. My mom was very religious.
I don't think a president should bring up his religion. His religion should be a private matter.
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Chill Dude
Well-Known Member
I love that Trump is pushing Rubio further to the Right as I believe Rubio is their strongest candidate to go up against Hillary. I think this will lessen Rubio's chance of victory in the general election if he is to be the Republican nominee.
@CarolKing I'm not really all that religious, but isn't it kind of weird and creepy to have a portrait of yourself with Jesus? Whether you're religious or not I think that's just strange...
@CarolKing I'm not really all that religious, but isn't it kind of weird and creepy to have a portrait of yourself with Jesus? Whether you're religious or not I think that's just strange...
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His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
@CarolKing / @Chill Dude - That picture is definitely not the norm. I can't count the number of homes I've been in where a picture of Jesus was prominently displayed. First time I've ever seen someone include themselves in one.