Tempest Or Anvil

Corvoed

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Just my $0.02. I'm in favor of the Tempest over Anvil at the moment; When it works as advertised, it is a thing of beauty. But I think it makes more sense to just buy an Anvil right now since as mentioned, it has been proven for a couple years now. Although if you prioritize flavor, Tempest has it beat for me and could be considered worth waiting for imo
 

VapingYogi

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So, to reiterate, I have the TA3. It is on a wood Revolve Gen2. The airport is fully closed. The TA3 head is open/closed in such a way that there are two pretty much perfect circles visible. I have my Wand currently at 585 F. I sit back on my sofa and hold the wand in my left hand kind of at a 45 degree angle. The display is visible. I hold my TA in my right hand, also at a 45 degree angle such that the head goes through the back of the Wand. Essentially both hands are kind of resting on my belly and the two devices make a triangle above. I have the TA head anywhere from flush to the edge of the hole to maybe 5mm past the edge. Run until time over and away I go.
Thank you for taking the time to reiterate it as I must have missed it. My setup (revolve and airflow settings) are the same. I’ll try your technique- thank you.

The main reason why the Anvil keeps its throne.
Yeah ok, I can accept that… I haven’t been able to get that really stoney feeling from the Anvil either… it's either, use the TA or my PID in order to achieve that truly stoney feeling… I hope if the Forge fixes that for me with the Anvil... otherwise there will be 4 sold soon.
 
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The Anvil has been my daily driver for the past 2.5+ years. Aside the portability I love the that I can torch it to a perfect roast and that it hits hard. Also it’s never gonna leave me as there’s nothing that can break.

The Tempest is new to me and I use it with a Wand. This great little device hits also hard, but is more convenient to heat up. The VI is an awesome feature and Brenyo’s great support is also an important part of the product.

If the world ends and I can grab only one vape (such a realistic scenario), it would be the Anvil due to its reliability and small footprint (torch instead of Wand). Also gas may be more available in common apocalyptic situations than electric power. But in the real world I can’t decide for one. They’re both great vapes, they hit differently and they compliment each other so well.

When I’m out and about I have them both with me. The situation and my mood decides which one I’ll use. Ideally both one after the other, that serves me for a while 😁
 
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The Anvil has been my daily driver for the past 2.5+ years. Aside the portability I love the that I can torch it to a perfect roast and that it hits hard. Also it’s never gonna leave me as there’s nothing that can break.

The Tempest is new to me and I use it with a Wand. This great little device hits also hard, but is more convenient to heat up. The VI is an awesome feature and Brenyo’s great support is also an important part of the product.

If the world ends and I can grab only one vape (such a realistic scenario), it would be the Anvil due to its reliability and small footprint (torch instead of Wand). Also gas may be more available in common apocalyptic situations than electric power. But in the real world I can’t decide for one. They’re both great vapes, they hit differently and they compliment each other so well.

When I’m out and about I have them both with me. The situation and my mood decides which one I’ll use. Ideally both one after the other, that serves me for a while 😁
Would you explain “common apocalyptic situations”. I need to know what to plan for.
 
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Garybuchanen

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I like the Anvil for what it is; but it's taken a back seat to the Tempest and the Thermal Accumulator (3) which are my favorites in this sort of space

The Tempest is IH / Wand compatible and has great flavour and is a complete device in of itself - where the Thermal Accumulator you'll need to get a good torch or a much stronger IH than the wand for really good results - but the Thermal Accumulator is a much more hybrid experience / more "stony" feel.

all depends on what your looking for but as a TM2 user I would say you would probably like the flavour of the Tempest (convection bias) over the Anvil (which kind of has a little more hybrid signature)
Which has bigger clouds ,anvil right ?
 
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Would you explain “common apocalyptic situations”. I need to know what to plan for.
All the stuff that happens in disaster movies, I guess. No personal apocalyptic experiences here 😄

I'm confused, wouldn't the footprint be pretty much the same if you used a torch with your tempest?
Yes. But I‘d rather torch the Anvil and IH the Tempest.

Dude seems to have some good insight on disaster planning, while I don't even have a day's worth of food/water in my place.
No insight at all, I‘d probably die at day one 😄 But at least I‘ll have my Anvil.
 

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I thought I‘d chip in because I‘ve owned both (Anvil and Tempest) for a while now.

While I very much appreciate all of these handheld, high-quality machined devices, to me the Anvil is undisputable king of that category. Here’s my breakdown:

Design/Build Quality: Build quality is just on another level on the Anvil (I have the blue Tempest, anodized…feel is a bit plastic-y even though there’s no plastic involved :)), and the mechanism of the bowl being the moveable part (rather than the “cap” on the Tempest) makes a lot of sense to me. I place the Anvil on a magnet, twist it open - no spilling no nothing. I can then empty the bowl, reload and off I go again. I also have different size bowls for the Anvil, so I can prep a second hit in another bowl and just keep going. The Tempest has its bowl integrated into the stem, so there’s no “pre-loading” (unless one had a second stem) and adjustments to the bowl size also aren’t exactly convenient on the fly. But I acknowledge that this is very personal, the Anvil happens to meet my preferences better here.

Heat up: I heat both devices with the Wand. I have the Anvil Thermocore, and I get a wonderful roast with big clouds with around 30 clicks from the Wand — consistent & high quality every time. I just take it out immediately when I hear the big click and off we go. The Tempest also works really well with the Wand, heatup time is around the same as with the Anvil Thermocore, it’s plug n play once its little adapter in the Wand has been properly calibrated (= how “deep” the Tempest sits in the Wand). I did notice that reheating a still hot cap with the Tempest will lead to less reliable results / needs more care taken than successively heating a bowl on the Anvil. But that could also be user error. Both devices are superb to handle with the Wand and super convenient.

Vapour/Flavour: upon its second click, the Anvil is ready to go and produces a thick, tasty vapour cloud with the first draw, every time. It’s really excellent and I fairly quickly worked out how to get the roast I want out of it every time. Flavour is very good as well for that form factor and material (of course, nothing beats glass, at least for me). The Tempest to me is not quite as straight forward and if I don’t watch out, I STILL overroast my bowls with the Tempest from time to time. Also heat transfer into the ceramic balls takes a moment, so the first draw usually serves a heat soak more than a big first puff, at least the way I’ve been able to work it so far. But soon after the Tempest produces a lovely vapour and lots of it too, albeit I prefer the flavour on the Anvil (could be due to my occasional overroasting as well). Where the Tempest really shines is that the ceramic balls hold the heat for longer and so the Tempest extracts vapour on a single heat cycle for longer. In practice that means that I never feel rushed with the Tempest, I can take my time somewhat and still get the most out of the herb I’ve loaded into it. The Anvil cools down quicker, so there’s more “pressure” to take advantage of it all while it’s still hot :)

Effect: both together with my Screwball have WRECKED my sensitivity, so my tolerance level is fairly high atm, which means I’ll vape a few bowls in a row usually to get to the deeper end of it all. To me in terms of effect, they are quite similar, excellent extraction through and throuh. Where the Anvil shines though, is with its XL bowl, which seems to hold slightly more flower than the Tempest’s bowl at max capacity (0,25g vs 0,15-0.2g). Both produce amazing vapour that few if any of my electronic portables can match.

Ritual: the nice thing about these handheld, well-machined devices is that they make for a nice tactile experience as well. Both are great but I prefer the cigar-like, heavy duty feel and the speed of extraction & resupply of the Anvil. I have mine equipped with the XL mouthpiece (which is a must for the tactile feel in my book :)) and it all just feels good. Passing it around and rebowling quickly is also very easy with the Anvil. The Tempest looks more high tech and has more “settings” (multiple airflow regulation points, multiple heatup indicators etc) — it’s flexible and fun and I really enjoy experiencing the heat transfer from the metal walls to the ceramic balls and into the green, but the Anvil just feels better & more “complete” to me.

Price: I live in Europe, so the Anvil with XL bowl and XL mouthpiece + its case end up costing around 350€ all inc if I’m not mistaken. The Tempest on the other hand comes equipped with a carrying pouch, replacement parts and another set of balls for a total of 269€, so the Anvil experience I prefer is also roughly 100€ more expensive.

In the end I don’t think one can go wrong with either, both are top notch handhelds that are extra convenient & functional when combined with a Wand. Me personally, I’ll recommend the Anvil over the Tempest to those friends who want the most “luxurious” experience a handheld can offer (beats out the Dynavaps, Stunner and Camouflet Convector XL I also own). The Tempest feels more like an “innovative” product and would be my recommendation to anyone who wants a hard-hitting, beautiful and novel handheld.

‘Tis a game of margins though, if you enjoy vaping both of these will do great :)
 
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the_hexx

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I thought I‘d chip in because I‘ve owned both (Anvil and Tempest) for a while now.

While I very much appreciate all of these handheld, high-quality machined devices, to me the Anvil is undisputable king of that category. Here’s my breakdown:

Design/Build Quality: Build quality is just on another level on the Anvil (I have the blue Tempest, anodized…feel is a bit plastic-y even though there’s no plastic involved :)), and the mechanism of the bowl being the moveable part (rather than the “cap” on the Tempest) makes a lot of sense to me. I place the Anvil on a magnet, twist it open - no spilling no nothing. I can then empty the bowl, reload and off I go again. I also have different size bowls for the Anvil, so I can prep a second hit in another bowl and just keep going. The Tempest has its bowl integrated into the stem, so there’s no “pre-loading” (unless one had a second stem) and adjustments to the bowl size also aren’t exactly convenient on the fly. But I acknowledge that this is very personal, the Anvil happens to meet my preferences better here.

Heat up: I heat both devices with the Wand. I have the Anvil Thermocore, and I get a wonderful roast with big clouds with around 30 clicks from the Wand — consistent & high quality every time. I just take it out immediately when I hear the big click and off we go. The Tempest also works really well with the Wand, heatup time is around the same as with the Anvil Thermocore, it’s plug n play once its little adapter in the Wand has been properly calibrated (= how “deep” the Tempest sits in the Wand). I did notice that reheating a still hot cap with the Tempest will lead to less reliable results / needs more care taken than successively heating a bowl on the Anvil. But that could also be user error. Both devices are superb to handle with the Wand and super convenient.

Vapour/Flavour: upon its second click, the Anvil is ready to go and produces a thick, tasty vapour cloud with the first draw, every time. It’s really excellent and I fairly quickly worked out how to get the roast I want out of it every time. Flavour is very good as well for that form factor and material (of course, nothing beats glass, at least for me). The Tempest to me is not quite as straight forward and if I don’t watch out, I STILL overroast my bowls with the Tempest from time to time. Also heat transfer into the ceramic balls takes a moment, so the first draw usually serves a heat soak more than a big first puff, at least the way I’ve been able to work it so far. But soon after the Tempest produces a lovely vapour and lots of it too, albeit I prefer the flavour on the Anvil (could be due to my occasional overroasting as well). Where the Tempest really shines is that the ceramic balls hold the heat for longer and so the Tempest extracts vapour on a single heat cycle for longer. In practice that means that I never feel rushed with the Tempest, I can take my time somewhat and still get the most out of the herb I’ve loaded into it. The Anvil cools down quicker, so there’s more “pressure” to take advantage of it all while it’s still hot :)

Effect: both together with my Screwball have WRECKED my sensitivity, so my tolerance level is fairly high atm, which means I’ll vape a few bowls in a row usually to get to the deeper end of it all. To me in terms of effect, they are quite similar, excellent extraction through and throuh. Where the Anvil shines though, is with its XL bowl, which seems to hold slightly more flower than the Tempest’s bowl at max capacity (0,25g vs 0,15-0.2g). Both produce amazing vapour that few if any of my electronic portables can match.

Ritual: the nice thing about these handheld, well-machined devices is that they make for a nice tactile experience as well. Both are great but I prefer the cigar-like, heavy duty feel and the speed of extraction & resupply of the Anvil. I have mine equipped with the XL mouthpiece (which is a must for the tactile feel in my book :)) and it all just feels good. Passing it around and rebowling quickly is also very easy with the Anvil. The Tempest looks more high tech and has more “settings” (multiple airflow regulation points, multiple heatup indicators etc) — it’s flexible and fun and I really enjoy experiencing the heat transfer from the metal walls to the ceramic balls and into the green, but the Anvil just feels better & more “complete” to me.

Price: I live in Europe, so the Anvil with XL bowl and XL mouthpiece + its case end up costing around 350€ all inc if I’m not mistaken. The Tempest on the other hand comes equipped with a carrying pouch, replacement parts and another set of balls for a total of 269€, so the Anvil experience I prefer is also roughly 100€ more expensive.

In the end I don’t think one can go wrong with either, both are top notch handhelds that are extra convenient & functional when combined with a Wand. Me personally, I’ll recommend the Anvil over the Tempest to those friends who want the most “luxurious” experience a handheld can offer (beats out the Dynavaps, Stunner and Camouflet Convector XL I also own). The Tempest feels more like an “innovative” product and would be my recommendation to anyone who wants a hard-hitting, beautiful and novel handheld.

‘Tis a game of margins though, if you enjoy vaping both of these will do great :)
Nice write up, thanks for this! I don’t have a Tempest but love my Anvil.

One of the reasons I didn’t go with the Tempest is that I have an early version of the Stunner, and this more than fulfils my portable ball vape needs. I’ve yet to see I direct comparison between the Stunner and the Tempest. Setting aside the fact that the Tempest’s design and machining is demonstrably better, how would you rate the vapor quality between the two? Asking as I use a Blazer Big Shot and have yet to take a hit from the Stunner that hasn’t been hugely satisfying.
 
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While I very much appreciate all of these handheld, high-quality machined devices, to me the Anvil is undisputable king of that category.
Thanks for the good read. I posted here when I was new to the Tempest, but my mind has shifted towards the Anvil since then. I always wanted to write a revision, but then you did it for me. I agree 100%, except I find the Anvil to hit harder than the Tempest, probably due to more conduction going on.

I also love that sturdy appearance and the weight, so I ordered another Anvil Stem with XL mouthpiece for my Tornado. These two are the definitive devices for me, up to last for decades. Man, I love that stuff! 😍
 

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I’ve yet to see I direct comparison between the Stunner and the Tempest.
Lots of comparisons between the two here:
 
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