Discontinued Supreme Vaporizer

[SD_haze]

The supreme, just like any vape other than the HA requires stirring. The air will preferentially flow around the material instead of through it, and therefore requires stirring for even vaporization.

If I filled the "trench" 50-100% (way more than what most vapes can fit) then it would require mixing around. Otherwise, the back side gets dark brown while the front end is a light golden brown.

If I filled the supreme's loading tube much less, 5-20%, then I wouldn't have any reason to stir. The heavy conduction aspect of the heating ensures the smaller load is fully extracted (Similar to the HerbalAire, surrounding the herb in very hot metal for the duration of the session)

Also,
when I say stir with the supreme, I've never actually STIRRED it. Same difference but I'd simply dump it all out then re-fill it.


Side note:
My Supreme's temp sensor died about 5 months ago and I haven't felt much desire even to buy a new one (~$25). I found over time the supreme's heat exchanger gets some residue build-up, making an old supreme have a much more restricted draw than a new one. Glad it worked great when I had it but pretty finished with my supreme.

 

[OO]

If I filled the "trench" 50-100% (way more than what most vapes can fit) then it would require mixing around. Otherwise, the back side gets dark brown while the front end is a light golden brown.

If I filled the supreme's loading tube much less, 5-20%, then I wouldn't have any reason to stir. The heavy conduction aspect of the heating ensures the smaller load is fully extracted (Similar to the HerbalAire, surrounding the herb in very hot metal for the duration of the session)

Also,
when I say stir with the supreme, I've never actually STIRRED it. Same difference but I'd simply dump it all out then re-fill it.


Side note:
My Supreme's temp sensor died about 5 months ago and I haven't felt much desire even to buy a new one (~$25). I found over time the supreme's heat exchanger gets some residue build-up, making an old supreme have a much more restricted draw than a new one. Glad it worked great when I had it but pretty finished with my supreme.

Um, well I don't know exactly how to respond, but here goes.
It's not just the front to back issue, it's also the outside to inside issue, if air flows around the outer edges, it will not penetrate the inner areas.

The reason for the amazing ability of the SV is the aluminum, which is an amazing thermal conductor, and the high surface area of the heat exchanger.

To me dumping it out and refilling is the same as stirring, it redistributes the the material. I use the term stirring, because it is the generically used term for the action of redistributing the material.

Have you tried using a different battery? Mine died a while back, replaced it and we are good to go.

I don't thing the buildup is occurring on the inside. In my experience, the buildup that leads to restricted airflow occurs on the screen, either cleaning the screen, or replacing it solved that issue.

Hell, if you're done with it, I'll take it off your hands, fix it, and give it away as a gift.

 

[Vitolo]

I have never stirred with the SV2.
My herb comes out an even dark color, always.

 

[SD_haze]

To me dumping it out and refilling is the same as stirring, it redistributes the the material. I use the term stirring, because it is the generically used term for the action of redistributing the material.

Agreed. With the right tools, the dump & refill with the supreme is just as fast & easy as stirring other vapes.

Have you tried using a different battery? Mine died a while back, replaced it and we are good to go.

The very brittle wire, that has the temp probe attached, actually snapped
If I really, really wanted to use it, one can always guesstimate the torch heat-up time by feeling the radiating heat off the exchanger.

I don't thing the buildup is occurring on the inside. In my experience, the buildup that leads to restricted airflow occurs on the screen, either cleaning the screen, or replacing it solved that issue.

Not entirely. Even when I take the screen out and draw on it directly, I can barely get any air through it. Really does a number on the jaw muscles.

 

[OO]

The very brittle wire, that has the temp probe attached, actually snapped
If I really, really wanted to use it, one can always guesstimate the torch heat-up time by feeling the radiating heat off the exchanger.

IR thermometer would do a good job of this, just point and get a readout.
I'm not sure about the loss of flow, what ever it is, it can be removed, material has probably fallen deep into it, and gotten stuck in some of the bends, but I think I could figure out a way to remove it all.

I have never stirred with the SV2.
My herb comes out an even dark color, always.

I think you must be using a fine grind. I don't always.

 

[Stu]

IR thermometer would do a good job of this, just point and get a readout.

The thermometer sensed the temperature at the edge of the herb chamber, so there's no way to use an IR thermometer.

I successfully replaced my thermometer and LCD panel. It wasn't too hard once I figured out where the sensor should go.

 

[OO]

The thermometer sensed the temperature at the edge of the herb chamber, so there's no way to use an IR thermometer.

I successfully replaced my thermometer and LCD panel. It wasn't too hard once I figured out where the sensor should go.

You are correct, it would be able to measure the temp of the block though, and eventually you could learn the range via block temp.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

The supreme, just like any vape other than the HA requires stirring. The air will preferentially flow around the material instead of through it, and therefore requires stirring for even vaporization.

Well, I get plenty even ABV out of my Supreme (and my solo) without any stirring whatsoever

Once I start heating that puppy, its puff puff heat until the load is spent.

I've never thought of my grind as particularly fine, I'd call it medium to fine at best.

Oh, I don't know if this would make a difference, but I replaced my metal downstem bit that holds the screen with my mouthpiece from my GonG Gn0me...

 

[Dogman]

I have never stirred with the SV2.
My herb comes out an even dark color, always.

Mine too Vito, I have never stirred mine, and always get very even, dark brown ABV. I do not 'pack mine, I just fill it all the way to the top with loose bud and start heating. Are you guys packing your tubes? If you are packing the tube, the air will not be able to flow around your material, an absolute necessity for convection style vaporizers. I also will turn the unit upside down and tap it on a table or something similar to make the ABV fall away from the screen, allowing better airflow.

As far as a clogged heat exchanger, about twice a year I will set the SV2 upside down in a coffee cup and fill it with ISO as far as I can without touching the wood. I let it set for a few hours, shake it in the alcohol to loosen the solid particles and then blow out the remaining residue and alcohol. It will clean the exchanger like new and allow better airflow. Just be sure to allow ASLL of the alcohol to evaporate before using again. I have a compressor and use the air hose to blow the unit out to a perfect dryness, otherwise I would wait 24 hrs before using it after an alcohol dip.

 

[scottio19]

I put a pipe screen down by the heat exchanger to allow for ground bud in my Supreme. To stir the bowl, I shake the Supreme.

 

[VapeNStone]

Is that with or without stirring?

no stirring. I never stir. My gf stirs and it doesn't make a difference really.

 

[Goodlife101]

yeah +1 for no stirring.. The heating element is connected with the bowl in a way i feel like heat is evenly distributed from conduction and convection.. I wish more vaporizers would focus on the heating element. If some ninja glass blower ever combines a gn0me or vapor cone concept that has a bigger mass and channels the air giving it more contact with the hot glass then I will have achieved vaping perfection with the biggest hitting cleanest tasting vape ever conceived. I always challenge cloud density of other vapes compared to the supreme and they all fall short and I explain that the heating element isn't as powerful coming in to contact with as much air hammering it all to vaping temp with no spikes or uneven heat before it gets to the chamber.

 

[Vitolo]

... evenly distributed from conduction and convection..

The point of the Supreme.

 

[vaporonly]

it is no lie when people talk about the size of the vape clouds with the supreme. wow, this thing is like a 12 gauge shotgun.

i can picture a base unit like an upside small toaster that you would put down over the heating element and it would heat it. or maybe you could slide it into the machine on lips that would catch on the bottom of the heating element or something.

that way instead of having an electric model, you have the original model with a separate home stand that you can heat it with electricity or use it with butane torch

i've been just using the unit alone with no whip or glass and i think the short vapor path also contributes to the large clouds that expand like crazy

edit: so i have read about a nail you look for to see about the heating element being wobbly. Is this different then the temp guage head and so a person should see TWO nails or pins in there or just one?

thank you.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations GoodLife101,
Salutations VaporOnly,

I wish more vaporizers would focus on the heating element. ...compared to the supreme and they all fall short and I explain that the heating element isn't as powerful...

Perhaps the Supreme's torch-compatible convoluted heat-exhanger could have been made even more useful in other circumstances, i regret that there won't be further R&D (unless i'm mistaking).

I can picture a base unit... ...heat it with electricity or use it with butane torch...

I see an IH cooking plate as the base station and Curie alloy in a heat-exhanger located behind some proper shield, inside a heat-wand style of stick that works alone or in combination with other accessories. As it is the LCD thermometer prevented me from considering a genuine SV and i'd like a wooden bowl shaped as that of a VapoStar instead, but since it's no longer for sale anyway my only wish is that this concept can be taken to the next level: convenient power-source duality that includes the power of fire, infinite IH heat @ self-stabilized temperature for flash-vaporization, etc... That sort of things.

 

[VapeNStone]

probably going to need to break this badboy out again when I send my cloud in.

 

[vaporonly]

my wobble has become worse to the point it is starting to effect temp readings ie it will show like 1 degree changes until i shake top and it will jump up like 20 degrees.

has anyone attempted to fix the wobble?

what about a high temp "shim" that would fit in the area below the block around the narrow neck section?

Is the nail or pin holding the heater/bowl area into the wood a factor with this wooble?

I really don't want to give up on it, the supreme is one of my fav vapes

thanks

 

[JJ420]

Just received my BNIB Supreme V2 off the forums here... Amazing, stunning, and one severely underrated vaporizer in my opinion! Paired it up tonight with my Luke Wilson 54-arm bubbler and the high is like the onset of E or a low dose of Nitrous. I'm using a Blazer Big Shot torch and together his sh!t straight up rocks!!

 

[JJ420]

Here's a vid of me heating up the Supreme only just enough to melt a very lovely chunk of 25 micron bubble hash sandwiched between herb inside:

 

[Tweek]

That Luke Wilson is a niiiiice

 

[VapeNStone]

Hey I pulled my Supreme out the other day just for fun and I noticed the battery was dead. So I took the two screws off to find out what type of battery. I went and picked up the battery and installed it. Everything seems to be working fine so I went home to try it. When I heated it back up to temp(usually go to 275 to start and then slowly ramp up) it started to combust? So I thought something was up with it, so I set it down to think. Then my gf tried it but tried just not heating it that much and we found out that the temp guage is wrong? Did I pull the wires out a little to far? Because it seems to be on temp when I just turn the unit on(you know when you turn it on and it just says the temp of the room your in). I could just figure out what the new temps are, but that will be quite the learning curve and I don't want to put in good weed just to waste it lol. Any suggestions?

 

[Stu]

VNS, try pushing the end of the sensor lead all the way down the little hole. I had similar issues when I had to replace the thermometer, but I finally got it to the right spot where (I believe) it touches the outside of the aluminum tube for surface to surface contact with the thermometer.

Good luck.

 

[VapeNStone]

my fucking screw is stripped. Won't back out of the wood.

 

[bridgesoid]

Hi everyone, hope your all having an awesome day ;-)

I'm just wondering what type of battery the supreme thermometer takes?

I don't want to strip the screw by pulling everything in and out more often than necessary?

Thanks a lot guys cheers

 

[Stu]

Don't be afraid to unscrew the faceplate. It goes back on perfectly well.

Just pull the old battery, and read the info on it. Replacements are easy to find.