Discontinued Sublimator XLR

[Been Vapin]

How long have you been waiting for the rma and what was the issue?I am in the same boat been 3 weeks now since i sent it back they only got it 2 days ago.I also had to pay for shipping it back which is something else.

Its been over a month for me. Heater burnt out. Planetvape is iffy on returning my emails, so I don't know what's going on.


I do know Sublimator has some of the worst customer service and policies in the vaporizer market.
Feel like I'm getting fucked for the fourth or 5th time by Sublimator and their retailers. Maybe even 6th time.

 

[zippy]

Its been over a month for me. Heater burnt out. Planetvape is iffy on returning my emails, so I don't know what's going on.


I do know Sublimator has some of the worst customer service and policies in the vaporizer market.
Feel like I'm getting fucked for the fourth or 5th time by Sublimator and their retailers. Maybe even 6th time.

That is not good to hear i hope this situation works out,glad i did the transaction with Paypal so still have time to dispute...

 

[A1FBG]

There really isn't much drag to speak of with the whip, it just takes a little longer to clear by nature of a longer thinner airway. It also has the added benefit of being able to sit back with and pass around more easily.

I personally feel the 12" kit is way more fun as you get to watch the column of vapor rise to the top. The 3" kit just looks weird and stunted to me, I guess it works if space and portability is a consideration. I would also recommend the glass upgrade tubes from Planet Vape instead of the acrylic Sublimator ones. Glass is always better, and it's seriously thick glass so you'll have to try hard to break it.

Have you considered building one yourself instead of the kits? I built mine up at Planet Vape, got the FatBoy stainless base with a choke tier and an optional 45mm tier and the glass 12" tube. Haven't seen another one like it yet, love being able to add the options as if you were ordering a car. The choke tier is super useful if you don't want to be bothered with lifting the entire element and bowl to clear.

Here's how I built mine up. I do need to replace my whip tubing, it's getting grungy after 6 months lol

This is very similar to the setup I want. I want a glass mouthpeice instead of a whip tho. Planet vape is sold out of the bent neck bubbler. the straight tube that's in stock doesn't show an image of the item and I don't want to buy something that I haven't even seen. I really like that carb hole as I feel it would reduce drag significantly. I like the setup bro

As for these most recent posts about customer service. That has me rethinking my upcoming purchase. I've had to send in my Evo multiple times and if that happenes with the Sub a lot of time and money will have been wasted by the time the issue is fixed.

If my Sublimator ever makes it back from RMA it will be used with this piece and whip attachment. Its about $45.00 US shipped

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-16-5cm-height-glass-bong-based-water/233447446.html

I'm considering using my own glass with the adapt a kit and subbuddy catcher. But the stainless steel base seems a lot better suit for the Sub. Anyone know of 45mm glass on websites other than PlanetVape?

 

[Been Vapin]

This is very similar to the setup I want. I want a glass mouthpeice instead of a whip tho. Planet vape is sold out of the bent neck bubbler. the straight tube that's in stock doesn't show an image of the item and I don't want to buy something that I haven't even seen. I really like that carb hole as I feel it would reduce drag significantly. I like the setup bro

As for these most recent posts about customer service. That has me rethinking my upcoming purchase. I've had to send in my Evo multiple times and if that happenes with the Sub a lot of time and money will have been wasted by the time the issue is fixed.

Sublimator could learn a lot from VapeXhales customer service. You will have to pay to ship the RMA to and from Canada. Sublimator claims they are a small company and cannot afford prepaid shipping labels.

Its is also Sublimators policy to return your RMA to the retailer you purchased it from. The manufacturer does not handle the RMA unless purchased direct from them.

Others have had positive dealings direct with Sublimator. Another thing that pisses me off is Sublimator took info from an email I sent and posted a quote with my name and location on their website.

That is some snitch ass shit.

 

[Sublimator427]

Anyone know of 45mm glass on websites other than PlanetVape?

http://www.bcsmokeshop.ca/Transformers-by-GEAR.html

http://www.jupitergrass.ca/shop/bongs pyrex.html

http://www.grasscity.com/us_en/smoking-pipes/bongs-waterpipes/mix-and-match

http://torontohemp.com/collections/glass-water-pipes/hoss

I got one of the Gear tops from the first link. It can hold water but I use it dry and leave it in the refrigerator. Only trouble is despite taking perfect care of it for 6 months the perc piece inside did come loose recently. Not sure if it's anything to do with the temperature changes I was subjecting it to. It's an easy fix with glass glue; I'm just a procrastinator so the perc is still crooked lol

 

[A1FBG]

http://www.bcsmokeshop.ca/Transformers-by-GEAR.html

http://www.jupitergrass.ca/shop/bongs pyrex.html

http://www.grasscity.com/us_en/smoking-pipes/bongs-waterpipes/mix-and-match

http://torontohemp.com/collections/glass-water-pipes/hoss

I got one of the Gear tops from the first link. It can hold water but I use it dry and leave it in the refrigerator. Only trouble is despite taking perfect care of it for 6 months the perc piece inside did come loose recently. Not sure if it's anything to do with the temperature changes I was subjecting it to. It's an easy fix with glass glue; I'm just a procrastinator so the perc is still crooked lol

That setup is A+

Preciate the website links. That bc shop has got it all. There are just so many damn options to choose from..

ive had a ufo perc (very sturdy) fall out because of being in the freezer too long. Tree percs tend to be more fragile as it is anyways.

Why do you prefer to hit it dry? Flavor? Potency?

 

[Sublimator427]

Why do you prefer to hit it dry? Flavor? Potency?

Just a personal choice. General consensus seems to be that water does remove some small content of the medication. And also just the cleanliness of keeping it dry. The water gets smelly and you can see the residues floating in it after a couple uses. Especially with vaporizers, it looks like chunky snot in the water. It's just kinda unappetizing to me when in use lol

 

[stickstones]

damn @Sublimator427 - that is one pimp ass rig! The Sublimator has really evolved since my old adapt-a-bong. That set up makes me want to try it again! Do you feel like there are no more exposed parts to burn you? Or does it still have some places you can easily get burnt?

 

[Sublimator427]

damn @Sublimator427 - that is one pimp ass rig! ... Do you feel like there are no more exposed parts to burn you? Or does it still have some places you can easily get burnt?

Thanks haha, that's why I really like the optioned build system that Planet Vape offers. Although they should probably offer first time customers a little bit more of a breakdown diagram to help with the ordering process. I only figured out which components I needed to assemble by studying Enrico's setups on YouTube lol

That heat cage is a great safety investment, but it doesn't quite fully muzzle the Sub. It'll prevent a good 75% of the burn situations that would happen without it. It also protects your furniture and floors from heat damage after a drop and even serves as its own stand. However the top of the element where the wand meets the Apollo is still exposed and still dangerous. The top half of the heat cage won't burn you but is still extremely hot to the touch because that's the point of attachment to the element. And since the cage is only attached to the element the hot bowl will still be exposed when the element and cage are taken off.

In any case, I only needed to get my first clumsy Apollo burn to immediately order that cage

 

[Frederick McGuire]

When I first got my sub, I thought the safety cage looked a bit clunky and assembled it without it.

I minorly burnt myself 2-3 times that first night and promptly installed the heat cage.

I haven't burnt myself since

To further add to what @Sublimator427 said, the heat cage doesn't protect you from the atomizer when they are separated.
However, I've found when the sub is in use, the ONLY time my heater and atomizer aren't connected, is when my heater is sitting on the Z stand and I'm emptying or reloading the sub.
Given how much attention is required of the sub at those times, I find burning myself is of no concern (I also have an appropriate scoop to aid in loading the hot atomizer - everyone should have some kind of "sub spoon" IMO)

That little metal bar that attaches to the heater is still exposed, and a potential burn risk, but I personally have never grazed it or anything, so I don't know how much of an issue it'd be for other people.

I've found that the bottomhf of the heat cage always stays pretty cool - cool enough that it can be picked up by hand once the sub is fully heat soaked.
I'd say the top half of the heat cage could potentially burn you with even moderately prolonged contact, but a quick graze wouldn't burn.
It's "touch it and it stings" hot if that makes sense

It makes me feel a lot more comfortable with the sub, but I can also see how it would be incredibly easy to just never use it.

I think it makes the sub look a bit more clunky , but the usage benefits outweigh the aesthetic defects for me

 

[Sublimator427]

I think it makes the sub look a bit more clunky , but the usage benefits outweigh the aesthetic defects for me

I personally think the heat cage looks awesome on the Sub. Has the look of Medieval armor lol

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Haha!
That's all I'm gonna see now

 

[A1FBG]

how would purchasing a voltage meter help benefit a Sublimator set up?

Also replacing screens seems expensive. Are there some really cheap ones available? Is ISO alcohol unsuccessful at cleaning them?

 

[Sublimator427]

Don't know about the voltage meter. But the screens to use are the Iolite ones. Don't bother with pushing a regular screen to the bottom of the bowl, it just gets dirty and disintegrates. The Iolite ones are super sturdy, contribute to the extraction process with their own hot metal, and eject for easy cleaning. I've been using the same set of 3 for a couple months and they still work fine. A set of 3 is like $13 last I checked on eBay. Their only downside is they don't sit quite right in the bottom of the bowl. You'll usually have to use a tool to make sure it's facing up, it tends to spin and flip on the awkward surface.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

I just got a set of screens from planetvape when I got the sub.
A set of 10 screens, with 5 varying coarseness levels.
They wedge down in the bottom of the atomizer nicely.
I find they don't really gunk up too quickly with just flower, but keif definitely messes them up quicker...

Usually an iso rinse is enough for my screens, but sometimes they need a light torching.
I haven't had 1 screen die on me since I've had the sub (~6 months)

Can you make those iolite screens stay in the atomizer?
It would be incredibly annoying for me to have to re-insert the screen each load...

 

[Jazzah]

I bought the OG sub in the first week it came out. I only have one screen and still using it. I don't see why you would ever need a second one. When I clean my sub i just take it out, let it soak in iso for a little while, then scorch it till it turns red hot. That way all that was stuck to it turns to ash and falls of, then reclean with iso and done.

@Frederick McGuire
I too had been looking at the TI torch version of the sub and I too conceived of it as my "zombie apocalypse" vape. Just one question though, how to you intend to find lighter fluid, butane or propane during the zombie apocalypse ? What I'm really asking here is, has anyone successfully used a sub (either UFO or Eliminator (i think that the name of the new one)) with just an open flame, like from a campfire ?? Thanks guys

 

[Sublimator427]

You guys must have gotten much better quality screens than I did. The normal ones I got were trash, they gunked up and disintegrated every week. Finally got the Iolite ones which solved the problem.

As far as I know there's no way to make them stay in the bowl. But for me personally it helps with cleaning. You can see in my photo I have a sharp set of tweezers I keep in the kit. I use them to handle the screen piece and give the bottom of the bowl a scrape now and then where the regular screens would have prevented that; keeps the airways 100% clear and reduces the frequency of cleanings overall.

 

[A1FBG]

I just got a set of screens from planetvape when I got the sub.
A set of 10 screens, with 5 varying coarseness levels.
They wedge down in the bottom of the atomizer nicely.
I find they don't really gunk up too quickly with just flower, but keif definitely messes them up quicker...

Usually an iso rinse is enough for my screens, but sometimes they need a light torching.
I haven't had 1 screen die on me since I've had the sub (~6 months)

Can you make those iolite screens stay in the atomizer?
It would be incredibly annoying for me to have to re-insert the screen each load...

Do you find a difference in the screens? If so which style coarse do you prefer best?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Do you find a difference in the screens? If so which style coarse do you prefer best?

I use the looser ones for bud, and the tighter ones for hashes like bubble

 

[CG420]

All you need really is to cut a bit of the ss screens they give you to fit on the bottom but capable of tapping it out and use an iolite screen on the top. I have used only one so far for each ledge inside the atomizer. It's really not a big deal cleaning them as I just shake vigorously with a small gram herb container with iso filled over it. I do this to both screens in about 3-4 days or every end of the week depending on my use and how oil builds up. It's much better to clean all atomizer-related parts to keep a clean clear pathway and not inhibit the sub's heating element by subjecting it go high watts for cleanoffs. I only do that for oil consumption built up in the holes or bottom end of the heating element.

Tip: if you want to make sure the iolite screen faces the correct side. Drop the screen down on the side that's suppose to face up. Flick your index finger slightly on the drop and it will fall neatly facing up correctly most times.

 

[MGG]

I use the looser ones for bud, and the tighter ones for hashes like bubble

I used a tight one for both, do you think that's bad?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

I used a tight one for both, do you think that's bad?

Whatever floats your boat

I like the looser screens because they gunk up slower, at the cost of slightly dirtier sublimate, and a few crumbs make their way past the screen...

But for bubble you've gotta use a tight screen so it doesn't just fall through
I usually give my atomizer a clean if I plan on using bubble in it. I'm already taking the screen out, so it's no hassle for me to switch up the coarseness...

I can't see any downside to just sticking with a fine screen aside from more frequent cleanings .

 

[canj00digit?]

I think I have to get a Sub.
I mean, it's looking like it's a requirement of Aussie residency
Seriously though, errrls have upped my tolerance, I need the biggest hitter I can get.
The LSV is very good, I just think I need a vape on the bleeding edge to satisfy me.

Thinking of the stainless Apollo as it will be for flowers mainly.
I already have an e-nail.

 

[MGG]

Whatever floats your boat

I like the looser screens because they gunk up slower, at the cost of slightly dirtier sublimate, and a few crumbs make their way past the screen...

But for bubble you've gotta use a tight screen so it doesn't just fall through
I usually give my atomizer a clean if I plan on using bubble in it. I'm already taking the screen out, so it's no hassle for me to switch up the coarseness...

I can't see any downside to just sticking with a fine screen aside from more frequent cleanings .

hmmk I was thinking airflow too. Just was wondering if you got a noticeable difference ever using flowers with a tight screen but all g, cheers for reply.

 

[MGG]

I think I have to get a Sub.
I mean, it's looking like it's a requirement of Aussie residency
Seriously though, errrls have upped my tolerance, I need the biggest hitter I can get.
The LSV is very good, I just think I need a vape on the bleeding edge to satisfy me.

Thinking of the stainless Apollo as it will be for flowers mainly.
I already have an e-nail.

Yeah that'd be a good option if you have an e-nail already. You can still dab from the apollo, but if you have a legit e-nail I don't see much point unless you ever feel like doing a dab-sandwich XD or even better a hash sandwich! (Hash where you put the flowers and then dab oil up top)