Sticky Brick Labs Vaporizer

HaschLover

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I've been getting the best results when I remind myself to slooooow down. There's actually a lot to pay attention to - more so than I would have thought initially, and very minor changes seem to have a considerable impact on vapor.
Long slow draws are the best for me too :). I think part of the reason these vapes can be a bit tricky to master from the start is also part of the reason why they are so great. There are so many ways to vape and that really welcomes the user to find her personal style.

Btw, love this thread and all friendly helpful people in here!
 

shopdognyc

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Long slow draws are the best for me too :). I think part of the reason these vapes can be a bit tricky to master from the start is also part of the reason why they are so great. There are so many ways to vape and that really welcomes the user to find her personal style.

Btw, love this thread and all friendly helpful people in here!
I've noticed on a draw that the vapor comes through the mouthpiece thick, thins out, back to thick.

I am trying to hone down technique and I move the flame around in a tiny circle or back and forth. I am noticing I am sometimes getting darker spots. It seemed favorable for me to point the flame angled down, but I am also trying angling up and moving around.

Stirring has been something I am learning to do as well.
 

BrianTL

Westchester, NY
Long slow draws are the best for me too :). I think part of the reason these vapes can be a bit tricky to master from the start is also part of the reason why they are so great. There are so many ways to vape and that really welcomes the user to find her personal style.

Btw, love this thread and all friendly helpful people in here!
Yeah I see what you mean about why that makes these vapes so great. It can be frustrating and difficult at first but sticking with it is well worth it IMO.

Honestly I think OVER thinking it is an issue too. Everybody has their own personal preferences and obviously posts what works for them. At first I was trying to read and comprehend each persons specific method, translate it into my head in a way I can understand, and apply it to my own use. Thats how I usually "learn" things like this, but it actually seems to fuck me up even more with the brick. If you get yourself a baseline, keep that consistent and then you just have to keep using it changing things a little bit at a time until you start getting it figured out.

I had a TON of blank hits and it was frustrating - especially when my mindless consistent TinyMight is sitting right next to me. Would have been very easy to reach for that and worry about the brick later, but I was determined to figure it out and make it work. I'm still getting blank hits but not nearly as much and the hits I am getting seem to be improving in quality, so I'm happy. Progress is progress!

The brick is the definition of trial and error, IMO. I'm sure that can be said about a lot of vapes but in my limited experience its especially true with the bricks if you've never used something like it before. Because so much trial and error is involved I think thats what makes each persons technique pretty unique, just fucking around with it let them settle on certain techniques that may not work for somebody else.

They other key is keeping your baseline consistent. For example if you're trying to play around with the flame and see what changes, everything else HAS to be the same. Carb, disk, load size, tamp, etc. Otherwise you'll never be able to isolate which change has which effect and you'll be chasing your tail trying to figure it out.
 

Cervical CBD

Active Member
My disk (runt) came with the nipple to the stem. In the manual it came with, it shows the nipple facing down towards the bowl, away from the stem, or the opposite direction in which it arrived.

Going with the manual and what @nonamekevin suggested (I think), I flipped the nipple to face the bowl right from the start, never even tried it the other way. I've been using it with the nipple towards the bowl and I haven't had any issues so far with scorching or hot spots. In fact quite the opposite where I've been wondering if flipping it back to the way it was shipped will help me get more heat to the bowl.



That happened/happens to me sometimes, I think I get excited if I get a good first hit and then I automatically elevate myself to professional brick user status so I dont pay attention to the follow up hits and next thing you know I'm sucking butane.

I've been getting the best results when I remind myself to slooooow down. There's actually a lot to pay attention to - more so than I would have thought initially, and very minor changes seem to have a considerable impact on vapor.

Oh, I also think stirring is critical. I had a great session with it last night. First I finished off a bowl from the night before, I was able to take it darker than I ever have before, so that tells me I was doing a better job at getting heat to the bowl. After that, Two heaping scoops into the bowl, no tamping, just a little shake to even things out, and went to town. It may have been my best session ever in terms of consistency and vapor production. I stirred after every 2 hits typically. So I'm heading in the right direction! Didn't finish that bowl either, busted out my top shelf stash, forgot how good it was...
The good draw I had was perfect and just changed color slightly to the entire top part of the bowl. It was even and taste was good. You’re right about the rest...technique is huge. I have the nipple part facing up towards the bowl which is opposite of how it came. I’m going to get my wake n vape going here shortly and will report back....thank you.
 

HaschLover

Member
BrianTL, words of wisdom for the new brick users, couldn’t agree more :nod: :sherlock:

Regarding big flame sizes. I messed around with huge flames from kitchen butane burners to the point where I burned the wood in front of the flame intake. Therefor I cut out a metal piece from a metal angle (cheap building material) to act as a protective cover for my brick. Not the most elegant finish but it stuck nicely to one of the magnets at the top so no other attachment material needed.F54E719B-57DB-407D-8B35-2BD9E0C4C878.jpeg945D22FA-176C-475A-9481-E14E2F12DEEE.jpeg
 

shopdognyc

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BrianTL, words of wisdom for the new brick users, couldn’t agree more :nod: :sherlock:

Regarding big flame sizes. I messed around with huge flames from kitchen butane burners to the point where I burned the wood in front of the flame intake. Therefor I cut out a metal piece from a metal angle (cheap building material) to act as a protective cover for my brick. Not the most elegant finish but it stuck nicely to one of the magnets at the top so no other attachment material needed.View attachment 2427View attachment 2428
That is like a badge a veteran earns. Looking at your intake and mouthpiece, makes me want to send some ISO. Any tips for cleaning the wooden parts of the path? Just water and q-tip? ISO?
 

HaschLover

Member
That is like a badge a veteran earns. Looking at your intake and mouthpiece, makes me want to send some ISO. Any tips for cleaning the wooden parts of the path? Just water and q-tip? ISO?
:lol: True! I like to vape the tar (wrong word I guess but you know what I mean) created in the path so I take a piece of cotton and press it through the path with a wooden bbq stick, same one as in the picture in my last post. Then I vape that cotton. Same thing with the tar created in the mouthpiece.
 
That is like a badge a veteran earns. Looking at your intake and mouthpiece, makes me want to send some ISO. Any tips for cleaning the wooden parts of the path? Just water and q-tip? ISO?
I wouldn’t use ISO on the wood. Q-tip and warm water if needed. However, I’ve never felt the need to do that with my OG. Haven’t cleaned the wood at all really and I haven’t noticed significant build up. The Brick isn’t my daily driver though!
 

Cervical CBD

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I turned the torch up and torched the crap out of the top. The rest of the bowl was much better once I backed off the flame a bunch. I don’t like the way I feel after a bowl with the Runt though. I don’t know if it’s from torching it and making me feel like I smoked and the butane? I feel lazy and couch locked haha.
 

Lag

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I wouldn’t use ISO on the wood. Q-tip and warm water if needed. However, I’ve never felt the need to do that with my OG. Haven’t cleaned the wood at all really and I haven’t noticed significant build up. The Brick isn’t my daily driver though!
I have to clean mine pretty frequently. I don't think the metal tube piece fits well enough, so some extra resin seeps through the cracks and builds up between to two wood pieces.
 

Cervical CBD

Active Member
Got It! Just let the lighter do the work and draw harder but long, move the end of the flame around and in and out a bit. Packed it pretty good the 1st bowl and the 2nd was about 2 Dynavaps worth. I was going to pack my DynaVap Cvap for the 2nd bowl but wanted more practice with the Runt. It was even better than the 1st! The taste is still not as good as my SSV but part of it is I’ve been close to combustion and its new.
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Yeah I see what you mean about why that makes these vapes so great. It can be frustrating and difficult at first but sticking with it is well worth it IMO.

Honestly I think OVER thinking it is an issue too. Everybody has their own personal preferences and obviously posts what works for them. At first I was trying to read and comprehend each persons specific method, translate it into my head in a way I can understand, and apply it to my own use. Thats how I usually "learn" things like this, but it actually seems to fuck me up even more with the brick. If you get yourself a baseline, keep that consistent and then you just have to keep using it changing things a little bit at a time until you start getting it figured out.

I had a TON of blank hits and it was frustrating - especially when my mindless consistent TinyMight is sitting right next to me. Would have been very easy to reach for that and worry about the brick later, but I was determined to figure it out and make it work. I'm still getting blank hits but not nearly as much and the hits I am getting seem to be improving in quality, so I'm happy. Progress is progress!

The brick is the definition of trial and error, IMO. I'm sure that can be said about a lot of vapes but in my limited experience its especially true with the bricks if you've never used something like it before. Because so much trial and error is involved I think thats what makes each persons technique pretty unique, just fucking around with it let them settle on certain techniques that may not work for somebody else.

They other key is keeping your baseline consistent. For example if you're trying to play around with the flame and see what changes, everything else HAS to be the same. Carb, disk, load size, tamp, etc. Otherwise you'll never be able to isolate which change has which effect and you'll be chasing your tail trying to figure it out.

When you're right, you're right.this is a manually operated non-regulated vape...the most non-regulated you can get. However, that also makes it the most customizable in the way you hit it.

If you're willing to spend the time, trial and error, and occasional frustration that it takes to learn to use it, it can be the best hitting, most personal-hitting vape you can own.

All the factors that can change what you get out of this vape include, but are not limited to, the type of torch you are using, the way you adjust the flame, your draw-speed, the coarseness of the grind, how much you fill the bowl, weather or not you use the restrictor disk (I don't like it), distance from the flame to the glass heat intake.

All the above are factors you can manipulate to get different results, and everyone is wired differently, so everyone's prefer style could be unique. Experiment with all those variables and find your own method. Once you get there, it will be difficult to just go back to regulated vapes....but it does take trial and error learning to get there. Trust me, it's worth it.

I love non-electronic, manual vapes like this at home, because a good technique can give you the exact experience that you want...but it takes some trial and error practice. You will combust in your practice, but you need to in order to see where the limits are, because once you learn to skirt that limit, these vapes become more amazing than 90 percent of everything else.
 
I got OG a week ago and to my surprise I had no problems using it!
Has anyone tried to use Fury Edge dosing capsules with OG? Does it work?
 
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BrianTL

Westchester, NY
I'm not sure what exactly I did differently but I think I ended up on the very edge of combustion for the first time, that was cool. It was definitely hot vapor and the load was BLACK - I didn't taste smoke or smell combustion so I dont think I did, I imagine there wouldn't be any doubts if I did. Pretty happy about that, I have been feeling like I'm not able to get enough heat to the bowl to get that much out of it.

Question, has anybodys brick had any swelling issues or anything? My pieces have been freely connecting/disconnecting with a slight snap from the magnet. Seemingly over night my bowl brick does not want to snap into place, it gets stuck and needs to be pressed into place. I've only had it for less than 2 weeks and its never once been exposed to any water, its been humid but I wouldn't think humid enough to cause swelling?

edited to include pic you can see where it’s getting caught up, then I have to force it into place

 

shopdognyc

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I'm not sure what exactly I did differently but I think I ended up on the very edge of combustion for the first time, that was cool. It was definitely hot vapor and the load was BLACK - I didn't taste smoke or smell combustion so I dont think I did, I imagine there wouldn't be any doubts if I did. Pretty happy about that, I have been feeling like I'm not able to get enough heat to the bowl to get that much out of it.

Question, has anybodys brick had any swelling issues or anything? My pieces have been freely connecting/disconnecting with a slight snap from the magnet. Seemingly over night my bowl brick does not want to snap into place, it gets stuck and needs to be pressed into place. I've only had it for less than 2 weeks and its never once been exposed to any water, its been humid but I wouldn't think humid enough to cause swelling?

edited to include pic you can see where it’s getting caught up, then I have to force it into place

I noticed this a couple of days ago after using a few times. Its not as easy going in and out. I figure from the humidity or heat the wood expanded. After multiple uses I'm sure the parts will wear down a bit and make easier. The winter may make it shrink a bit and same thing.

Growing up I always noticed our house doors would be harder to close during the Summer and easier in Winter.
 

BrianTL

Westchester, NY
I noticed this a couple of days ago after using a few times. Its not as easy going in and out. I figure from the humidity or heat the wood expanded. After multiple uses I'm sure the parts will wear down a bit and make easier. The winter may make it shrink a bit and same thing.

Growing up I always noticed our house doors would be harder to close during the Summer and easier in Winter.
Yeah thats why I wasn't too alarmed, funny you mention that about the house doors I've always noticed the same thing. Actually, the house I live in now I bought just over a year ago, the front door is such a POS its actually cracked because it swells so much I've had to shoulder it open once or twice lol. So, swelling with the heat & humidity wouldn't surprise me and it wouldn't surprise me if it it smoothed out over time either. Good to know I'm not the only one experiencing changes in the wood!

I also noticed this happening right after that hit where I nearly combusted so part of me was stoned-panicking that I over heated my brick but thats obviously not the case...they clearly can take the heat lol. Once I get to the point I need to start installing heat shields to protect the wood I'll worry about over heating.
 

shopdognyc

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Yeah thats why I wasn't too alarmed, funny you mention that about the house doors I've always noticed the same thing. Actually, the house I live in now I bought just over a year ago, the front door is such a POS its actually cracked because it swells so much I've had to shoulder it open once or twice lol. So, swelling with the heat & humidity wouldn't surprise me and it wouldn't surprise me if it it smoothed out over time either. Good to know I'm not the only one experiencing changes in the wood!

I also noticed this happening right after that hit where I nearly combusted so part of me was stoned-panicking that I over heated my brick but thats obviously not the case...they clearly can take the heat lol. Once I get to the point I need to start installing heat shields to protect the wood I'll worry about over heating.
Since its wood, I assume there will be changes. I been using only the Flip and didn't notice with that, but that uses just magnets. I switched over the practice the Runt and noticed. It was annoying a bit, but I found connecting them at different parts sometimes works better. I hope that makes sense. Connect then slide up or down.

I realized this particularly thread has become an important part of my day haha. Nice to have someone to share the struggle with.
 
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BrianTL

Westchester, NY
Since its wood, I assume there will be changes. I been using only the Flip and didn't notice with that, but that uses just magnets. I switched over the practice the Runt and noticed. It was annoying a bit, but I found connecting them at different parts sometimes works better. I hope that makes sense. Connect then slide up or down.

I realized this particularly thread has become an important part of my day haha. Nice to have someone to share the struggle with.
Oh same here! Theres a couple threads I have basically constantly open in one way or another, and definitely helps to have a couple rookies like us going through the struggles together.

I was doing the same thing, connecting in different ways just to see if I could ID the sticking point. Definitely hooks up easier in some orientations than others, then sliding into place.

The only real annoyance is I found it so satisfying the way it just clicked into place. But like you said, I have a feeling with regular use and changes in environment, it will return.
 
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Cervical CBD

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Ugh terrible session...all I can taste is butane. Anyone ever got their finger hit from the carb hole? Probably have the flame way too close.
 
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invertedisdead

Defenders Of Glass
Ugh terrible session...all I can taste is butane. Anyone ever got their finger hit from the carb hole? Probably have the flame way too close.
Might sound hard to believe but it sounds like your flame is still rather low.

Reason I say this is these vapes are very fast vapor producers, nearly instant in fact. Usually if people do have issues it's with over roasting, charring, or combustion. If you feel like you're huffing gas, that would suggest your still not going in hot enough.
 

shopdognyc

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When you say taste butane, what are you tasting? I used to think the same thing. When I connected my Flip to a rig empty, I get a certain flavor. With water it changes of course.

From what I learned here and just googling, the byproducts of the burnt butane is carbon dioxide and water. I think the taste you are thinking is just the warm / hot water byproduct. The only case where you may have issues is the production of carbon monoxide, but that is from using with a lack of oxygen, which don't think would be your case.

I used to have my finger burn hot from covering the carb hole but it isn't an issue anymore. I think the constant draws prevents the heat from staying near that hole, at least I think so.

@Cervical CBD how much are you putting in your bowl? When I was just starting and just covering the screen, I tasted more of that butane flavor you are mentioning. When I loaded up the bowl, changed for me.

As I am more familiar with this thing, depending on what angle or direction my flame goes, the amount of vapor I see coming through my mouthpiece changes in density.

@BrianTL do you taste a different when it combusts? I think for me its become clear as night and day. Best way I can describe is the flavor becomes sour-ish all of a sudden. I check the bowl and blacked out.
 

BrianTL

Westchester, NY
When you say taste butane, what are you tasting? I used to think the same thing. When I connected my Flip to a rig empty, I get a certain flavor. With water it changes of course.

From what I learned here and just googling, the byproducts of the burnt butane is carbon dioxide and water. I think the taste you are thinking is just the warm / hot water byproduct. The only case where you may have issues is the production of carbon monoxide, but that is from using with a lack of oxygen, which don't think would be your case.

I used to have my finger burn hot from covering the carb hole but it isn't an issue anymore. I think the constant draws prevents the heat from staying near that hole, at least I think so.

@Cervical CBD how much are you putting in your bowl? When I was just starting and just covering the screen, I tasted more of that butane flavor you are mentioning. When I loaded up the bowl, changed for me.

As I am more familiar with this thing, depending on what angle or direction my flame goes, the amount of vapor I see coming through my mouthpiece changes in density.

@BrianTL do you taste a different when it combusts? I think for me its become clear as night and day. Best way I can describe is the flavor becomes sour-ish all of a sudden. I check the bowl and blacked out.
I've actually never combusted in the runt yet. The closest I came was last night, and the flower was like completely black. Not ash, just black. I assumed if I combusted the whole load it would have been an obvious and immediate change, but I didnt notice anything other than hot vapor. No real taste change or anything and its been a while since I've combusted anything I would think it'd be obvious to me.

I've noticed a "butane" flavor a couple of times. Its most obvious to me when I'm trying to vape smaller loads, or when struggling to get a hit and I'm running the torch for like 5 mins straight.

@Cervical CBD You might be right about the flame being too close. I've been leaving my torch on max flame. I find that if the flame gets too far into the intake, you get more butane taste - weather or not its actually butane, IDK, but my thought was that if too much flame is inside the intake, the flame itself isnt getting enough fresh oxygen so its not burning as cleanly as it should be. Thats a complete guess btw.

The other thing I picked up on, even if you want to jam the flame in the intake, start out further away. I feel like if its too close from the start, its almost like the glass intake isnt warm enough to fully combust the butane. So its more of a butane taste for me too. If I start further out, like towards the edge, slowly move it in, I feel like it responds better and takes to the heat. Like you want the intake warmed up to fully combust the extra fuel from a large flame jammed in there without increasing the amount of available oxygen.

Idk, I'm a fire nerd and tend to over think anything fire related lol. The fire tetrahedron has always interested me and every fire has the same requirements. Fuel, Oxygen, Heat, - then the three of them combined make a chemical chain reaction, combustion. Which, we're collectively fucking. If any one of those requirements gets out of whack, it changes your fire. In something like the sticky brick, those effects of a subtly changed fire can be pretty obvious.

My thing is I always forget to try and look at the mouthpiece as I'm hitting it. I'm way too focused on where the flame is and what its doing. Idk, for me it seems to be easier to work based on the flame rather than vapor production, maybe when I have the flame thing down pat I can be comfortable enough to watch the mouthpiece.
 

shopdognyc

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@BrianTL don't think I'm coordinated enough to look away from the flame and only at the mouthpiece, so have to self check as my hand does drift when not focused.

I read yesterday sticking the inner flame into the intake isn't good. I've definitely done this trying to force vapor. If I think what is going on, a heat source is pointing into an opening, spreading the heat, and my draw is pulling that heat towards the mouthpiece. The more impatient I get drawing harder, the weaker the vapor. Letting time pause and wait, I get my best.
 
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Cervical CBD

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When you say taste butane, what are you tasting? I used to think the same thing. When I connected my Flip to a rig empty, I get a certain flavor. With water it changes of course.

From what I learned here and just googling, the byproducts of the burnt butane is carbon dioxide and water. I think the taste you are thinking is just the warm / hot water byproduct. The only case where you may have issues is the production of carbon monoxide, but that is from using with a lack of oxygen, which don't think would be your case.

I used to have my finger burn hot from covering the carb hole but it isn't an issue anymore. I think the constant draws prevents the heat from staying near that hole, at least I think so.

@Cervical CBD how much are you putting in your bowl? When I was just starting and just covering the screen, I tasted more of that butane flavor you are mentioning. When I loaded up the bowl, changed for me.

As I am more familiar with this thing, depending on what angle or direction my flame goes, the amount of vapor I see coming through my mouthpiece changes in density.

@BrianTL do you taste a different when it combusts? I think for me its become clear as night and day. Best way I can describe is the flavor becomes sour-ish all of a sudden. I check the bowl and blacked out.
I’ve tried a full bowl and a little bit. I can’t get good flavor or consistent with it and it burns my throat. I just vaped 2 but it was more like smoking. So far I’m not a fan but I’ll keep at it.

Might sound hard to believe but it sounds like your flame is still rather low.

Reason I say this is these vapes are very fast vapor producers, nearly instant in fact. Usually if people do have issues it's with over roasting, charring, or combustion. If you feel like you're huffing gas, that would suggest your still not going in hot enough.
I can’t find the happy medium. Flame too high and it torches it and tastes like shit. Too low and I don’t get much vapor.
 
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shopdognyc

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I’ve tried a full bowl and a little bit. I can’t get good flavor or consistent with it and it burns my throat. I just vaped 2 but it was more like smoking. So far I’m not a fan but I’ll keep at it.
Sorry the trouble is going so long. I prefer it out of all of my vapes. I’m here to try to help for as long as you need. Hope you don’t give up.
 
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