Sativa lovers

[SlacktoryRecords]

Hi all, brand new to the forum here. So glad to have discovered this great resource for discussion, and especially this thread!

Found this place after searching the web for more info on that Marley Maui Wowie that Empire Cann. Club in NYC sells. Any further thoughts on it? They still have loads of it, but that price… ooof. And that’s before paying the membership fee (which seems wack in this new almost-anything-goes gray/black/legal market NY has). I’ve never been there before, but I’ve also never seen Maui Wowie for sale in NYC, apart from the Baby Jeeter minis “imported” from out of state.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Here’s hoping more sativas get a foothold here in NYC soon. So tired of the pancake, gelato, biscotti, tiramisu, Bavarian cream doughnut varieties. (You know what I’m talking about.) Got some past-its-prime Durban Poison from an unlicensed dispo last night. I love sativas but have sort of a low tolerance for THC; maybe the desiccation of the buds ($30/3.5g) will be to my benefit.

Sorry for the rambling first post.

 

[NYC_Frank]

... Marley Maui Wowie that Empire Cann. Club in NYC sells. Any further thoughts on it? They still have loads of it, but that price… ooof. And that’s before paying the membership fee (which seems wack in this new almost-anything-goes gray/black/legal market NY has).

Welcome aboard brother ... yeah I bought an eighth of the Durban Poison from Empire back in October ... was very happy with it except for the price ... haven't tried the Maui Wowie yet.

The new legal place Housing Works not very far away from Empire has a nice hitting "la bomba" which i still have a couple of buds left ... high in price again but no membership fee

Late Edit ... just wanted to clarify La Bomba is a hybrid strain but Housing Works lists it as a Sativa ... i've seen the same thing at Empire and other dispensaries with other strains like creme brulee ... maybe sativa dominant? ... I'm sure things will be getting better as we go forward

 

[NYC_Frank]

Marley Maui Wowie that Empire Cann. Club in NYC sells. Any further thoughts on it? They still have loads of it, but that price… ooof.

Just noticed Empire Cannabis posted a discount ounce of Maui Wowie smalls yesterday at $250 ... unfortunately sold out today ... might be something to keep an eye out for

 

[CANtalk]

It's great to see all the sativa talk & most interesting . Anyone try Maui Wowie before? I had some from another source & it was far more impressive than I was thinking it was going to be . Did not look as good as that NYC bud, but was still super potent. Will try again 4 sure & highly recommended . Oof big time on that NYC $250 price tho.


TGIF & here's a first peek for a new-to-me strain & batch I just picked up, check out this Jamaican Haze . It's a big ~2" & 2g nug . Much more loose than many of the recent sativa batches I've posted w/ lots of loose leaf. And very frosty .

Cost was ~$73US/Oz .

Cheers & vape on.

 

[GoldenBud]

Cheers & vape on

it's like.... Jamaican Haze F8 or what? how can it be so frosty if it's an old strain? what's the catch? usually old strains are not so frosty... can you ask them which generation is it?! how much time they worked on this strain?

it's not the "regular" Jamaican Haze, it's something that had crossing all over with its best pheno each time, they crossed Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze a lot of times IMHO! I think!

it looks.. so good!

 

[CANtalk]

it's like.... Jamaican Haze F8 or what? how can it be so frosty if it's an old strain? what's the catch? usually old strains are not so frosty... can you ask them which generation is it?! how much time they worked on this strain?

it's not the "regular" Jamaican Haze, it's something that had crossing all over with its best pheno each time, they crossed Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze a lot of times IMHO! I think!

it looks.. so good!

No idea but I'm very happy w/ it , the frostiness of this batch reminds me of the Hawaiian Snow I picked up not long ago but even more loose & better flavors. I originally thought Jamaican Haze would be a 100% sativa or near to it from the name... aka a mix of a Jamaican sativa & Haze. But the supplier uses the Allbud description for this strain, a cross of the Jamaican landrace sativa & Amnesia Haze, an est. 65% sativa and thus it's not too old a creation either. It makes sense (from frostiness & being sourced in Canada, and this batch matches much of the physical description as well fwiw.

This bud has heart-shaped forest green nugs with dark leaves, lots of thin deep amber hairs and tiny, milky white crystal trichomes.

It's very strong and I'm haf from it, so sorry for any spelling / grammar issues .

Cheers!

 

[GoldenBud]

Allbud reports this Jamaican Haze as an est. 65% sativa and thus it's not that old a creation either. This batch matches the physical description very well fwiw.

it's a strain from the year of 2000 or so, which means they crossed it a lot of times Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze for getting such frostiness i think, still good! it doesn't matter much, just shocked to see such bud from 2000s

Jamaica Haze (Jah Seeds) :: Cannabis Strain Info

35% Indica-65% SativaTHC level: 12% - 16%CBD: Medium, Low.Indoors Vegetative time: 2weeks Indoors Flowering time: 70 to 77 daysIndoor Production for m2: 500g - 700gFlowering outdoors time: October to november .Production outdoors : Normaly gives mor...

en.seedfinder.eu

"This Variety is Vary good for Outdoor in South of Iberian Peninsula. He was born of a cross with Amnesia and one jamaican Plant that we have choose since 2000."

 

[CANtalk]

it's a strain from the year of 2000 or so, which means they crossed it a lot of times Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze for getting such frostiness i think, still good! it doesn't matter much, just shocked to see such bud from 2000s

Jamaica Haze (Jah Seeds) :: Cannabis Strain Info

35% Indica-65% SativaTHC level: 12% - 16%CBD: Medium, Low.Indoors Vegetative time: 2weeks Indoors Flowering time: 70 to 77 daysIndoor Production for m2: 500g - 700gFlowering outdoors time: October to november .Production outdoors : Normaly gives mor...

en.seedfinder.eu

Ya it appears to better match the allbud.com THC range of 16-23% . Growers have definitely stepped up their game in the last few years here. I haven't enjoyed so many great batches like this before !

Cheers!

 

[GoldenBud]

Ya it appears to better match the allbud.com THC range of 16-23% . Growers have definitely stepped up their game in the last few years here. I haven't enjoyed so many great batches like this before !

the bud you posted looks like 30% THC, so i tend to assume it's like Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze until F8 or more.... so frosty.... doesn't look at all like 2000s strain!

 

[SlacktoryRecords]

Just noticed Empire Cannabis posted a discount ounce of Maui Wowie smalls yesterday at $250 ... unfortunately sold out today ... might be something to keep an eye out for

Yes, I noticed that as well. Slightly lower THC percentage, and nothing about the provenance of those buds, so I wonder if it was the same cut as the ‘Marley’? Just hoping more Maui is on the way.

I also noticed as a new customer, they give $20 off your first order, so that takes quite a bit of the sting off the price of their Maui Wowie + membership fee. I can accept it: NY isn’t California yet, but we’ll get there someday, maybe (unfortunately, for the growers!).

 

[Haze Mister]

Interesting!
I had a very stretchy Super Silver Haze from Mr. Nice that smelled like Church. I am not completely familiar with their pedigree, but chances are relatively big it is related to the Afghan Haze. And as they had big variations in their packs back in the day...

I did some reading around and there seems to be quite a bit of BS in the history ...I could be wrong but I got the impression all those Dutch strains like SSH, Amnesia, and NL Haze , Neville's Haze etc probably came from one Haze that Neville or someone linked to him got from the US. Neville doesn't sound very kosher in this story but who cares... what I care about is shortening that 12 week flowering period without losing the quality

 

[CANtalk]

the bud you posted looks like 30% THC, so i tend to assume it's like Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze until F8 or more.... so frosty.... doesn't look at all like 2000s strain!

Fwiw, this is a new camera I'm using and it's doing its thing a little differently from older pictures.... including notably optimizing the exposure & dynamic range to make the picture "pop". This nug isn't as white in real life, but it still has all those awesome trichomes and pistils & is super fresh . Along with this dynamic pop, I'm happy to report that the white balance & colors are much more accurate than my older pictures. I'm still learning the camera & we'll see how these pictures go . Eyeball imo puts it in the ~20% THC range. Lots of visible trichromes obviously but more subtle than shown in the optimized picture, cheers.



I'm super happy w/ this batch & strain of Jamaican Haze. It's potent & the first try yesterday was very sativa dominant overall (in the best way too ). The indica content in my Blue Dream batches hit much more than this Jamaican Haze batch.

Super high , sorry for any spelling / grammar issues

 

[Haze Mister]

the bud you posted looks like 30% THC, so i tend to assume it's like Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze x Jamaican Haze until F8 or more.... so frosty.... doesn't look at all like 2000s strain!

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work like that, and repeated inbreeding doesn't usually increase the quality- often the reverse is the case and most of the great strains of the past are no longer that great because of that.
I would guess that Jamaican Haze is a hybrid.

 

[GoldenBud]

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work like that, and repeated inbreeding doesn't usually increase the quality- often the reverse is the case and most of the great strains of the past are no longer that great because of that.
I would guess that Jamaican Haze is a hybrid.

Man look at his bud. Doesn't it look like 30%+?

 

[cx714]

No bud porn— just had to give props to good old Durban Poison. Great for doing nothing and suddenly realizing you’ve been at it for a while!

 

[SlacktoryRecords]

Just a quick update: I did buy the Maui Wowie from Empire. It certainly feels like 31%. Tastes and smells exactly the way Maui ought to—a truly unique terp profile, to me at least. I am very pleased but still wish I could get another batch elsewhere at a lower price point (even with lower THC value; I don’t have that high a tolerance).

 

[Madtater]

No bud porn— just had to give props to good old Durban Poison. Great for doing nothing and suddenly realizing you’ve been at it for a while!

Had some of that myself today. Came in at just over 15%

One of my favorite all day strains.

 

[CANtalk]

Just a quick update: I did buy the Maui Wowie from Empire. It certainly feels like 31%. Tastes and smells exactly the way Maui ought to—a truly unique terp profile, to me at least. I am very pleased but still wish I could get another batch elsewhere at a lower price point (even with lower THC value; I don’t have that high a tolerance).

. That's a very high THC percentage. I posted a picture of my Maui Wowie batch a while back now (when I had some) & it was in the est. 15% range... and damn it slapped . Quite a clean high too, one of my top top favorite wake'n'bake strains . Dial in your dose to optimize it, I weigh mine out . Enjoy!

No bud porn— just had to give props to good old Durban Poison. Great for doing nothing and suddenly realizing you’ve been at it for a while!

Had some of that myself today. Came in at just over 15%

One of my favorite all day strains.

I had some Durban Poison today as well . It was in the #1 TGIF driver spot after a weekly break. Awesome stuff, here's my recent batch again & an ~3g nug, cheers!

It's high rez, zoom in for more goodness

Share the luv

 

[CANtalk]

What's up in sativa land ?

All my recent sativa pick ups have been unique & strong potent here , cheers . And here's a sativa fan club sneak peek at that second recent pick up. Will try to remember to reveal it tomorrow on the "What's currently in your vape" thread, cheers. Even frostier (by the eyeball) than the Jamaican Haze shared earlier

Enjoy the weekend & ur sativas

 

[CANtalk]

That picture above is Acapulco Gold! My 5-7th buy or so of this strain, same source & probably the best overall batch of AG I've picked up yet . Been finding a lot of great batches of a number of sativas in the last quarter . May you also have much success.

TGIF & I'm haf on Durban Poison for first time after a week off. And in the #1 driver spot for the first time in three weeks . So far, so great . Highly recommended . The recent batch I'm vaping is the 2nd picture posted above, enjoy!

What's going on out there in sativa land?

Have a great weekend!

 

[gangababa]

Thursday was the 30th of March and I finally procured my monthly club grow. Now, on April Fools day I have 30 grams of extremely fragrant Uruguayan flower curing.

Does "Y Griega" count as a sativa? The interwebs will say it is a high THC, 80% sativa strain. It have a bud set out to dry a bit more before tasting.
It is fragrant, loose structured, orange pistils, with two-toned green narrow leaf. I pulled off a stub of a sugar leaf with 7 fingers.
It is sticky but not frosty.

I have long wanted to ask this. I find two different experiences with vaping cannabis.
At times, the vapor-flavor-wisps slowly peter out, less and less, and worthless but still noticeable.
At other times, the vapor-flavor-wisps just stop; abruptly like turning off a light switch.
Over time, I have come to identify the second experience with strain names that are supposedly sativa dominant.

Comments?

 

[Haze Mister]

Sativas seem to have lighter/ thinner/ more volatile oils. Sometimes the difference is noticeable on your fingers after handling fresh buds. Feels like a thinner oil. People also advise using smaller mesh sizes when extracting from sativas for the same reason.

 

[LesPlenty]

narrow leaf

Usually means more Sativa leaning, Indica plants usually have fatter leaves.

 

[CANtalk]

I typically see a loose bud structure & lots of sugar leaf associated with sativas, but a number of sativa strains don't adhere to that morphology. Not surprising imo w/ different plants, strains, grows, phenotypes, etc. As such, I find the physical characteristics to not be a very accurate way to evaluate cannabis batches / strains.

One thing I've noticed & agree with is that sativa strains usually have more amber colored trichomes, while indica strains usually have more higher contrast white colored trichomes. This makes sativas often look less frosty & potent than indicas.

Thursday was the 30th of March and I finally procured my monthly club grow. Now, on April Fools day I have 30 grams of extremely fragrant Uruguayan flower curing.

Does "Y Griega" count as a sativa? The interwebs will say it is a high THC, 80% sativa strain. It have a bud set out to dry a bit more before tasting.
It is fragrant, loose structured, orange pistils, with two-toned green narrow leaf. I pulled off a stub of a sugar leaf with 7 fingers.
It is sticky but not frosty.

I have long wanted to ask this. I find two different experiences with vaping cannabis.
At times, the vapor-flavor-wisps slowly peter out, less and less, and worthless but still noticeable.
At other times, the vapor-flavor-wisps just stop; abruptly like turning off a light switch.
Over time, I have come to identify the second experience with strain names that are supposedly sativa dominant.

Comments?

Sounds great, enjoy! Sticky is an excellent sign . Your Y Griega appears to be a nice strong sativa. Share a picture if you can ! Since sativa & indica designations are pretty limited, I often qualitatively describe that as full/pure sativa (landrace or a mix of landraces), strong sativa (high content sativa genetics & f/x) or sativa leaning (significant amount of sativa genetics with large sativa f/x), and the same thing for indicas.

As for vapor, I haven't seen its behavior being indicative of sativa or indica cannabis. Rather, how much vapor I get out of a bowl has been most directly related to the amount used, the cola vs sugar leaf content in the bowl (the contents of each bowl are often variable), the moisture content of the batch, the freshness, and how frosty the batch is (quality). Sometimes vaping a batch will give me big clouds that won't stop, other times that same batch will only give a single draw with a medium size cloud. Sometimes first draw gives a nice cloud, other times the cloud comes on the second draw. Lots of variables go into vaping for clouds

Sativas give me a more fulsome high, aka the entourage effect. I also find them uplifting, happy to euphoric & they give good energy. Indicas instead, tend to give me a more stony THC style high (similar to dabbing concentrates) without being as uplifting as sativas and they bring less physical energy. I temp step as well and find that low temp vaping will enhance the sativa f/x described earlier. OTOH, high temp indica vaping makes me sleepy (which doesn't happen with sativas).



It's great to read about personal sativa experiences & share. How is sativa land out there? This weekend I enjoyed some Durban Poison, Trainwreck & Jamaican Haze so far, and today Acapulco Gold will be the first batch of the day.

Cheers & have a great Sunday

 

[BabyFacedFinster]

Picked up some sticky buds called Temple Haze. A bit too heady for me, but very tasty and potent. I'll probably cut it with a little indica to make it more managable. I'm not too much of a sativa guy, but it looked and smelled too good to pass up.