florduh
Well-Known Member
Nice. THe advantage to the Crossingtech quartz bucket is the housing that screws on the top of the bucket. It firmly presses the quartz to the heating disc to increase thermal transfer.
Nice. THe advantage to the Crossingtech quartz bucket is the housing that screws on the top of the bucket. It firmly presses the quartz to the heating disc to increase thermal transfer.
ChurroForSure-O
Well-Known Member
After a long back and forth with the Swiss jewel company for a quote on making a sapphire/ruby insert to fit the Sai, I learned that the walls can’t be thinner than 2mm because of drilling reasons. I don’t think 2mm thick walls would work for such a small bucket. It’d take way too long to heat, and way too much energy.
I imagine SiC to be the same way.. too hard to drill so thin, but I don’t know that for sure.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Cool, looking forward to trying those.
I think it a great tradeoff , the hassle & wait & all else that takes away from my high.
I love the Ti/Skillet for it's no brainer works every time .
I use TCR 333 & trc 315 depends on what Mod , as they are a lil diff 1 & 2 battery Joyetech
By upping the watts to 44 , gets to temp quicker & at 290-310 first hits real terpy & smooth, then I just got up 5 -10 degs a pull till gone . To easy and smoother since I changed temp & starting curb, This is all on myevic firmware 20 sec auto default settings
When my new Espion mod gets her going to experiment with Red Panda a color version
of Arctic Fox with all these atty saves by @daltesean from reddit
have no experience as Myevic always works great with my mods, but here I go
any advice?
Sai, Seq, DTV3 and Triton Arctic Fox Profile I updated the release of my Temp Control Profile to the latest Arctic Fox and Red Panda Releases also included a Mac script to install any dependancies and launch the toolkit.
Everything is in the download, firmware, profile, patches and tools.
User Manual!!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uF5xCzg-8LqbiCwom5oKJWhIBnt7COsrCWytwYN5Yfk/edit
Downloads:
https://gofile.me/2c3tF/rxqfTgTC6 (Main)
https://pixeldra.in/u/zi2F1j (Mirror1)
https://www.filedropper.com/dalteseanv180818 (Mirror2)
(If anyone knows of any other decent Mirror sites (no ads!!) or would like to host another Mirror let me know.)
Install:
- Download and decompress file.
- Open NToolBox. (For Mac Right click the NToolboxMac.command file and select open (first launch only) it will install any missing dependancies, you will either need to have Xcode or command line tools installed, otherwise it will install it also but you will need a admin password at launch, first launch takes 5-20 min to fully set up the wine environment. This "should" eliminate any issues with new users and setting up Wine.... fingers crossed
) - Select "Firmware updater"
- Plug in Device and wait for it to recognize then Select 'Update from File'
- Select your desired Patched Firmware from the firmware folder. (If it fails try again until it takes)
- af_180617.bin unpatched file.
- af_180617_Enjoy.bin Patched to replace Protection with Enjoy (If you have a small screen device like the Pico use this one.)
- af_180617_Enjoy_PotStartup.bin Patched to replace Protection with Enjoy and a 420 boot screen for large screen devices)
- af_171126_Enjoy_HVTStartup.bin Patched to replace Protection with Enjoy and a HVT fanboy boot screen for large screen devices.
- RP_180706.bin Red Panda firmware
- myevic.bin Tubo myevic firmware for herb vapes. (very small segment of AF mods are compatible with this.)
- Click cancel to return to the main NToolKit screen and select ArcticFox Configurator.
- Click the bottom Hyperlink of "Open Existing Configuration"
- Navigate to the Profile folder and select the profile.
- Click 'Upload Settings' (May Take a few tries for it to take)
- Unplug your Mod.
- Double click your fire button to choose the correct profile. (All should work out of the box, Lock your resistance in a 68° room, all profiles are preset but coils do degrade over time so your coil maybe different.)
- ENJOY!!!!
Since the profile has posted the homebrew installer has started stalling after installing the "Command Lines Tools" . Simply close out of the terminal window after its been idle for about 10-15 min then restart the .Command file. (Only a issue the first launch and only if you don't have XCode or Command line tools installed already)
After firmware update you MAY get a pop Information (window)
An exception occured during dataflash reading.
Unable to open HID class device.
Disconnect the Mod, click on OK button and reattach your Mod through USB. If it persists, disconnect the Mod then completely close out of the toolkit including closing the Terminal window then relaunch via .Command file and reattach your Mod through USB.
All Credit for the Emulation method for Mac does to user SpaLife at the NFE forums I only wrote the wrapper to do it all automatically for you guys.
Profiles:
SAI TAF- For the Saionara Top Airflow Bucket. (adjusted +100°F at 380°F)
SAI 3TI - Saionara triple TI coils.
10MMDISC- 10mm Donut profile. Sai Donut and older Divine Tribe 10mm coil.
SEG TAF- For the Sequoia Top Airflow Bucket. (adjusted +100°F at 380°F)
13MMDISC- Seq Donut and newer 13mm Divine Tribe donut.
TRITONTI- Triton Titanium. set for the double ti relock the resistance at 68° for the sirous coil.
TRI 1701- Triton 1701 buckets. (adjusted +100°F at 380°F)
QQUEST- Quartz Quest
Usage:
Hold fire button - Fires Mod for up to 15 sec puffs
2 Clicks of Fire button- Select Profile
3 Clicks of Fire button- Edit Profile wattage and display (Press and hold both -/+ to reset counters in edit screen, tap fire button to change between options, hold fire to exit)
4 Clicks of Fire button- Key lock (Locks Temp useful while sharing)
5 Clicks of Fire button- Device Lock/UnLock (Power on if turned off)
Device will auto Lock after 15 min. (Child and Pocket safe)
Press and hold both -/+ to Power the Mod off (Not Needed IMHO as the 0.01 volt per day is not worth waiting 5 seconds for it to startup lol, but people ask for it... so) (5 clicks of fire button to turn back on)
While powered off Press and hold both -/+ to Flip screen.
Press and hold both -/Fire to turn on and off Steath Mode
Press and hold both +/Fire to access the Settings menu. (almost every option of the mod can be changed here.)
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Am I wrong to think if the TI bucket is to be used to bring inserts to temp & keep them there, it needs to be Flat and not with a peak in the middle, works for Vapor but not for
what needs to be done to inserts. I know next to nothing, help?
florduh
Well-Known Member
Think putting an insert in the Ti bucket will be problematic. The ceramic heater needs to transfer heat to the Ti bucket, and then that heat needs to transfer to your extra insert. Too much heat will be lost in the process, it will take a long time to heat up, and it will be a strain on your batteries.
If you're going to use custom buckets, you'd be better off taking the whole thing apart, removing the Ti- bucket, and placing your bucket directly on the ceramic donut. But I have no experience with that and it looks like only Crossingtech is selling buckets that fit, and only in quartz/Titanium.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
D32320
Noob Saibot
Wow! I am so glad this thread took off here!
Thank you @tennisguru1 and @florduh for all your contributions! I was thinking the exact same thing, that reddit couldn’t stop raving about it, but it really does work as good as everyone over there said it does.
Thank you @tennisguru1 and @florduh for all your contributions! I was thinking the exact same thing, that reddit couldn’t stop raving about it, but it really does work as good as everyone over there said it does.
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florduh
Well-Known Member
You know, I thought the big advantage of the Peak and other e-rigs over a Sai bucket is that the Sai requires you to hold a button for 10+ seconds, where e-rigs provide constant heating with one button touch. Now, I'm not so sure. Maybe that's great for novice users... but I can often get a nice milky huff through my bubbler in less than 10 seconds of heating time. So I'd rather not keep heating the material past that point.
florduh
Well-Known Member
I do have mine set to a 15 second cut off. It's nice for a big lung buster hit. But at 40 watts, I can get a satisfying hit in less than 10 seconds. With the bubbler, you can see vapor after about 3 seconds.
The versatility is sweet.
florduh
Well-Known Member
Personally, I'm getting the Eagle base to use with the standard Ti bucket atty because it lets you use different glass pieces like these:
I'm not sure adding just the bucket to the Eagle ceramic disk is going to work out. The Sai bucket housing screws together. This firmly places the bucket next to the heater, increasing the heat transfer. Also the standard Sai housing completely seals off the bucket and concentrate from the heater. I can tell you from using crappy Source buckets that getting concentrate on the ceramic heater below the bucket makes for a really bad time.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
I really enjoy the 10 mm ceramic donuts for tasty but has some maintenance & mess
leakage possible, with the eagle botton & Sai or TAF the donuts get best clouds & taste.
I will test this in a few days with my stuff, as at my buds house's he has it cooking nice.
Also I want to play around with the ceramic plate that comes with it for $22 lol plz :>)
Got some cheap cups & quartz inserts coming on a slow boat from china.
Got tired of waiting for all these options so since I was told by doctors that I'm not
going to die of prostate cancer anytime soon or maybe never, lol. oops sorry YEAH!
At around $25 a mod, I just dedicate 1 per atty & play at my constant leisure, lol.
So now not only is life great again, but it looks like it will be longer than expected.
Now if I can just remember what's in the Ti/bucket on the Dual Evic & what was I
tasteing in Donut coil on the Evic Two Mini , I'm trying some terpy mix of live resin
badder & thick co2oil on DNA Lavabox in the all Quartz $15 poor man's quartz dab.
Funny I put the Arcadia Motar E-Solid Wax Vaporizer on a Evolve+ battery Pulse it
WOW! if you don't have a mod but a Yocan Evolve + or XL battery this is cheap sweet .
https://www.fasttech.com/product/9624538
May the Force be with you in All ways.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Personally, I'm getting the Eagle base to use with the standard Ti bucket atty because it lets you use different glass pieces like these:
I'm not sure adding just the bucket to the Eagle ceramic disk is going to work out. The Sai bucket housing screws together. This firmly places the bucket next to the heater, increasing the heat transfer. Also the standard Sai housing completely seals off the bucket and concentrate from the heater. I can tell you from using crappy Source buckets that getting concentrate on the ceramic heater below the bucket makes for a really bad time.
That's cool, I don't really know the results of what is going to devolope
on these bases and atty, but already hook up everything to all my WT's
with those adapters I sent you pics of. I Love just playing for hours with
diff connectors & D020 , sidecar diffuser ect, but really the TAF Ti/Skillet
straight connect with my $1 silicone adapter to Pinnacle WT is the BEST!
I'm assuming the Eagle increased bottom airflow with hit a little different
You never know, lol EXCELSIOR !
PandaLee
Well-Known Member
I just bought the Eagle since it's cheap, to mess around. I haven't introduced any glass pieces to the Sai yet cause I use it mainly on the go. But I'll give that a go.
I may need a new titanium cup too. Mine seems pretty charred up. I can get most of it clean, but it's pretty dark now. Is Humbolt Vape Tech still best/only place to buy?
I may need a new titanium cup too. Mine seems pretty charred up. I can get most of it clean, but it's pretty dark now. Is Humbolt Vape Tech still best/only place to buy?
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Do you mean discolored charred or gunked up ?
If it's gunk, did not distilled water remove all the crud in seconds?
If it's stubborn black gunk, after pulse to heat water, stir with wood stick/skewer.
Mop up to perfect clean with piece of paper towel
PandaLee
Well-Known Member
I've used alcohol, never distilled water. I'll try some later when I get home. Checking it out now, I have the original design with separate bucket and screw on lid - not one piece. It's stuck now, even with a coin to leverage it...I'll have to put it on a clamp at home to unscrew it!
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
It will be good as new the Ti Skillet part
here are some coils
https://vapepensales.com/products/saionara-top-airflow-titanium-bucket-coil
https://www.puffitup.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SZ.109-SAI_TOPAIR
Ask Alice at Puffitup , friend of FC to put together whatever you need.
Not sure if they have just the coils, sak her, awesome service
I always get at least a !5% return customer discount & free fast ship & a nice card :>)
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
No don't unstick anything first, just after you qtipped the last gunk out, add a few drops of distilled water. Some say soak, you can just pulse button Carefully (Hot Boiling Water)
If gunk stuck or not losing fast enough, poke with point of wooden skewer , stir & pulse
repeat if really gunky still.
If I do this once a day it takes less than 20 seconds for a brand new TI bowl.
D32320
Noob Saibot
Heat definitely helps to get things moving
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
I sometime just soak my spare TI cup, orered the combo on sale day
for $8 just to vape straight of the 10mm ceramic donut bottom part &
have a spare TI Cup for free!!! :>
Guess I got lucky as I bought a Sai used on FC's Great classy frieds with
Istick 75w pico for $50 a nice intro, hated the hot Kanthal coil came with!!!
Caught a 1/2 off sale on the TAF & Ti/Bucket combo for $13 at HVT & had
a great rig for out & about but at home with pinnacle water tool.
Got the Full TAF with Ti/Bucket combo installed for $33 at VPS.
So with two atty's & the upcoming Quartz Cup inserts with the
Eagle bottom, I'm ready to play solid & experiment Crazy!! lol
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
What mod combo you using with the skillet?
What setting do you prefer?
Tried a little sea salt in the distilled water to increase scrubbing bubbles.
Not needed if you just use water at end of day, no build up, then I
have to burn of salt , lol.
D32320
Noob Saibot
I don’t do as much maintenance as I should on my bucket, but I pair my HumboldtVapeTech TAF Sai with a Cuboid, ArcticFox, around 40-43 Watts. If I’m going for clean I usually soak everything besides the rubber O rings and mod in some 99% rubbing alcohol, give some stirring and then wipe everything down with some q tips and let dry.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Hmmmm... nice, was going to get the Cuboid as so many good things said about for the price/performance excellent.
I was enticed by the Coolness of the New Espeon (not the flashing led one lol) I see
enough flashing from the 60"s lol. This one big color screen nice center pin.
https://www.fasttech.com/shoppingcart
The setting on my Evic Dual temp 320 - 390 @44 watts TCR 315 Temp varies with
Shatter, badder, live resin ect... Ti/Skillet.
Like the Evic's & this new one will be my first attempt at AF firmware upgrade.
Red Panda is AF's Color Version. I have been real happy with MyEvic firmware,
but not available for new mod, so going to give it a run.
The guide comes with 8 installed atty setting 4 or 5 I can use right off.
Sai B=bucket, DC V3 donut, ect..