tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Try bumping up temp to 430-450 drop starting watts to 37
With new heater I am able to bump up temps 440-460 with no burning
of oil, smooth long cool pulls. Thick white vapor.
New coils that come with QC (sorry stock out worldwide) read .51 bumped to
.56 temps at 450 gets to vapor 3-4 second stays for 25 sec draws.
No waste , clean with pulsing distilled water, same for TI & QC with same heater.
I'm going back to donut , just for test to see if same process works for donut heater
without damage to heater legs. Will let everyone know when testing done.
Last time I'll be using old donut heaters, but I will have a few 10 mm donuts to straight vape on sometime for a change, got a preset in Red Panda/Af for 10mm donut.
mlo4sho
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Thanks again for helping me. The only issue I'm currently experiencing with 35-37W and temps higher than 400 at .75 is that it is taking a really long time for the mod to get up to temp. Just tried to heat it up to 430 and it took 11-12 seconds. The preheat was shorter before changing to .75. Any suggestions?
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Hmmm OK, I just put in the old donut heater with the Ti bucket @.76 locked resistance
37watts preheat to 125% temp at 444 & it was so thick & strong but not harsh or hot, but too much for me .05 in 2 15 sec pulls & had to fight back lung blow up, but very nice for
maybe 8 hrs from now, lol.
So I think we need one more adjustment,
1. take apart atty & base. Screw in just base tight to atty.
I always overtighten this part of just the base onto a SS Heat Sync
and not my mod. This is the only thing I really lock down tightly
2. Unscrew Ti bucket from heater coil & take a look in & under
3. rescrew it in making sure threads are clean, mine are don't overfill anymore
and tighten down firmly, but not so you break it!!!!!!! use your common sense
4.Now you can screw it down on atty and stop when you see it register as there
at this point I just apply a slight 1/4 turn so it's snug.
5. There is no 5, your done, if you were to have put the atty on the nod and then tightened everything down, you could push pin up & crack donut.
In between loads I just lightly finger tighten the Ti cup onto atty as it
will tend to loosen with heating & cooling. The rest stays locked tight,
resistance & clouds quality has not budged from awesome evert bowl.
After these tests with both heaters I think they are both within good parameters
to heat quickly & efficiently, with the edge by design going to the flat plate.
But who know what the near future will bring, as the Molecule is working on
their own coil heated bucket, so the future is bright & tasty as live turpy resin
in this Quartz Cup about to simmer at temp 420 !
I really want to see a good SiC bucket for the Sai
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I really want to see a good SiC bucket for the Sai
Same here!!
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Are you even comparing a $30 atty to that high quality state of the art equipment asBeen enjoying the Sai quartz bucket for 2 days while out of town ... and working great for a back at the hotel outside rosin solution
Hits nice, not as nice as my dnail halo or vrod, but really nice.
Taste is superb
More updates later!
"dnail halo or vrod" :>) nice nice lol , quite a compliment to the Saionara Quartz Crucible & Ti Skillet.
Glad you are enjoying it. Got my old heaters working best at locked .76 seems to give thickest vapor, but I prefer the newer heaters on both my QC & Ti cups.
I have settled on .56 lock resistance on those. Big range of Bigger Hits with temps
at 480 in QC @40watts preheat 125% 2sec Thick vapor in 4-5 seconds hit for 25sec
down to 390 sipping hits 5-8 sec for vapor 22 sec pull. no burning on either.
I really am enjoying just cooking in my new pots & pans & not wasting my time any more
cleaning, adjusting wies, coils & other crap, instead of floating to Pink Floyd & getting Higher. Quite a change from the other of bringing down my head with BS ritual that used to be fun when I was a NOOB! Hahaha lol Today's Joy is mixing some of Tommy Chong's
The Sauce Shatter with a little Jazz Space Dude live resin in my QC & watch some Federer
& Joker dual it out Live with background music by the Grateful Dead.
I really want to see a good SiC bucket for the Sai
Source sells one. It's the 10mm one, my buddy runs that setup.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Have you tried it out?
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Yes please keep us informed, very interested. :>)
I have not, I ordered the 13mm one for my old enail setup but they were having cracking issues months back when they first released. I never actually used it and sent it back for a refund cause I didn't want to deal with it. I heard the 10mm ones are solid though.
Any of their 10mm cups should fit I think. They have an opaque quartz insert too.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Can you elaborate a little on the advantages of these other type of inserts?
Is it the taste is better? Smoother? Last longer? easier or harder to clean?
A large % of peeps don't think past pulsing wattage mode on bare coils, lol.
Somehow they think going backwards is state of the art.
As with anything worth while , a little knowledge & practice is well worth
pursuing in light the rewards & cost of our products.
If I at 72 have this thirst & desire to learn & perfect my joyful pursuits,
it eludes me how younger more energetic peeps settle for less?
Pass on treasure of your wisdom & experiences, as these portable devices
are starting to reach levels of ease of use & effctivability & convenience.
started@52
Well-Known Member
DNA250C and Ti bucket Using Replay mode with actual read resistance. Working my way up from 20 watts currently at 25 watt saved puff and liking it.
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Flavor and smoothness are subjective but silicon carbide and opaque quartz are the best I have used yet. SiC is an extremely durable technical ceramic with high conductivity, nearly as hard as a diamond and very easy to clean. Opaque quartz has a white color from thousands of tiny air bubbles which affects the thermal properties, I feel it vaporizes more efficiently with better flavor than clear quartz.
Lol you probably have twice the energy of these younger dudes!
I like the least amount of metal possible in the vapor path, I do feel it affects flavor and smoothness.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Thanks for that tip for my DNA 75 , but have no replay on old model.
What is you're TCR# as I am trying to set this lavabox m in escribe to
get to same levels as my Evoc's in AF
started@52
Well-Known Member
Replay doesn’t need a tcr number.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Ok, but the old DNA 5 Lavabox m doesn't have and can't be upgraded to replay.
So if I had a replay DNA mod wouldn't I have to have a good starting point to
want to save a vape session as to replay it everytime.
So I would put in 0.0092 try temp like what I get & save?
Is that how you would start to find a vape setting you would save for replay?
if the whole point is to find a setting on that atty coil vape combo & save it for replay?
I would like to learn the concept please, ty.
started@52
Well-Known Member
No, in replay mode, you just set the Watts and take puffs till you get a great hit then save that puff. The mod reads whatever temp(resistance) and sets everything else to replicate it.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
OK, now I see why it is so popular. My method needs an educated guess to start with & it usually takes me a few hours to find perfect settings for my taste.
Then I have no problem getting same hit duplicated every time,
with same Mod & atty & coil.
What about variance in different product vs vaporization temp levels?
I've done everything by eyeing out volume and quality of vapor bs precise
weighed amounts.
I trust my eyes vs all the BS propaganda that is spread
by Reddit & FC's entrenched camps, lol.
Cute , like little high school clicks, but counterproductive to progress and full of crap.
If you have great success in the vaping that you've doing, Make a freaking
Video, it's takes a few minutes and says 1000 words.
Be suspicious of these peeps who tell you how wonderful their stuff is and
yours sucks because of X, Y & Z. Notice when you search the web for reviews
all the vapes rated in the top are panned as Garbage up on FC.
Now back on subject as I always seem to drift off on some asinine rant,
BWTF that's because I am so fucking high doing all this testing, lol.
This little Lavabox m is so light & powerful & accurate and I just dialed in
the Mole at .0.0092 and its hitting great for the experiments I am involved in.
Need steady temps after quick even heat to test my Glass Top Straw & Quartz
Cup inserts on the Mole to get it even close to the production out of the Taf Sai QC.
But I got nothing but time and some awesome live resin shatter from Shango
of Las Vegas to try it on.
Thx for the wisdom, I think I get it with the DNA mods, just need to get some
practical working knowledge.
What would you say is the best state of the art deal on a DNA Replay
device & do you need a dual battery as with the Evic's. Seems the battery life is about 40% more efficient with same battery on my Evic Two mini & Pico 75 watters.
tennisguru1
EXCELSIOR!
Are you running AF on that pico?
Take a peek at some of the starting settings and tweek from there.
If you take a look at the heaters you have, I suggest you use the flat plate
ceramic heater for both the Ti & Qc cups.
It heats more evenly & Quicker & then you can just leave setting the same when you screw in the QC in the same heater. Seems they may just drop the donut as a heater
coil I have months ago, lol.
Now all you need to change is temp to taste, as Quartz takes a 2 sec extra warm up.
Good luck ! :>)
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
No AF. Barely know what that shit even is... I know it's software, but that's it. Hoping whatever software comes on the Pico is satisfying enough.
I was hoping for some absolute numbers.... trying to get performance by "tweeking" is what frustrated me, wasted $$$$ in material, and ultimately ended up selling it. I'll go with HVT values, although that's what I went with last time too.
I looks like I have 2 donut ceramic heaters (one in the SAI TAF and one spare), plus another ceramic flat plate, and then the quartz bowl.
What is that little stainless cap? Where do I put that? lol
I'll see what happens and report back! Appreciate your presence!
I was hoping for some absolute numbers.... trying to get performance by "tweeking" is what frustrated me, wasted $$$$ in material, and ultimately ended up selling it. I'll go with HVT values, although that's what I went with last time too.
I looks like I have 2 donut ceramic heaters (one in the SAI TAF and one spare), plus another ceramic flat plate, and then the quartz bowl.
What is that little stainless cap? Where do I put that? lol
I'll see what happens and report back! Appreciate your presence!