Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

nopartofme

nopartofme

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2clicker

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farscaper said:
yep. 100% rosin extract.

I used only a Remington silk ceramic hair burner at 320°f and an oil slick pad folded in half. very high tech!

retrieved an additional .11 so for a solventless first "real" run on some well cured material only 2 runs [second one I will admit was both lazy and a little sloppy... I got high?...]

.24 from 2.55... that puts it at 9.4%.... ive had strains that did worse with the best of solvents....
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can you link to the remmy burner?

im going to rosin tek an 1/8 and qwet wash an 1/8. compare the two.
 
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farscaper

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nopartofme said:
I found a few more prospects:

This little guy from Proctor-Silex - $21.74
Also this little one, cheaper but out of stock - $17.50
This bigger one from Black & Decker can do flat press AND waffles… - $42.82
Hear me out on this one: Six nugs. Six folded pieces of parchment… Six triangular rosin halos…… - $24.56
Why not make tortillas instead? - $29.86

I'm leaning toward that Proctor-Silex… Think it'll kick out enough heat?
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id suggest 2 slick pads
just space the buds apart on the pad cover with another pad and squish.
 
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farscaper

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walrus

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nopartofme said:
I found a few more prospects:

This little guy from Proctor-Silex - $21.74
Also this little one, cheaper but out of stock - $17.50
This bigger one from Black & Decker can do flat press AND waffles… - $42.82
Hear me out on this one: Six nugs. Six folded pieces of parchment… Six triangular rosin halos…… - $24.56
Why not make tortillas instead? - $29.86

I'm leaning toward that Proctor-Silex… Think it'll kick out enough heat?
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It looks to me like none of those would work well except possibly the tortilla press. The rest look to have plates that aren't totally flat. They might squish down a sandwich but they aren't gonna press a bud down to paper thinness as is required for this tech.
 
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farscaper

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you need to find a flatbread type press with a leaver for applying pressure.

i havnt actually found cheaper flatbread machine capable of temp from around 250f to 400f with some type of at least 10degree adjustment ... a readout beyond red and green would be nice too...

I keep pondering this
http://www.amazon.com/PowerPress-In...tion/sim/B009CCVS4E/2/ref=pd_sxp_grid_mlt_0_0

and a couple slick pads would make an hours work out of an oz no prob lol. overkill? I say yes please!

edit: also see these cheaper in various order
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UVT1X8I?psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Swing-MACHINE...F8&qid=1427342855&sr=1-42&keywords=heat+press
 
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2clicker

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farscaper said:
you need to find a flatbread type press with a leaver for applying pressure.

i havnt actually found cheaper flatbread machine capable of temp from around 250f to 400f with some type of at least 10degree adjustment ... a readout beyond red and green would be nice too...

I keep pondering this
http://www.amazon.com/PowerPress-In...tion/sim/B009CCVS4E/2/ref=pd_sxp_grid_mlt_0_0

and a couple slick pads would make an hours work out of an oz no prob lol. overkill? I say yes please!

edit: also see these cheaper in various order
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UVT1X8I?psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Swing-MACHINE...F8&qid=1427342855&sr=1-42&keywords=heat+press
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i actually have an old shirt press at my screen print shop. i have never used it. someone just gave it to me. like i said its old. pretty sure it only has a graduated temp dial. so no digi temp readout. i suppose i could use s temp gun to dial the temp in. i next time i am at the shop i will grab it and see what i can do. with the flowers spread out (to allow room for the rosin halos) i imagine i could fit at least a 1/4 at a time.

so are you using a slick pad with a screen on both sides of the patty?

farscaper said:
do you mean the bud hammer thing? thats just a press to PRE flatten the bud before you do a rosin tech.
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i was thinking about this last night. pre flattening the flowers would increase yield i would think. maybe exactly why @darkrom has been getting larger returns on his second or third presses?

it seems like if the flower is still whole that as the heated iron compresses it, that goodies would begin to melt WHILE the flower is being smashed. wouldnt this result in goodies melting into the flower instead of away from it? and that you would have to keep smashing it to get that rosin out? by this time the same errl has been heated a couple of times.

of course i could be dead wrong, but eliminating that by pre-flattening the flowers may be ideal.
 
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tony yayo

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So of course when all my sisters moved out of the house they left a bathroom full of crap, aaannndddd... not one damn flattening iron! Yeesh. Just came across this and want to try it SO BAD! Gonna have to hit Amazon. That Proctor and Silex thing up there looks pretty good!
 
2clicker

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farscaper

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2clicker said:
i actually have an old shirt press at my screen print shop. i have never used it. someone just gave it to me. like i said its old. pretty sure it only has a graduated temp dial. so no digi temp readout. i suppose i could use s temp gun to dial the temp in. i next time i am at the shop i will grab it and see what i can do. with the flowers spread out (to allow room for the rosin halos) i imagine i could fit at least a 1/4 at a time.

so are you using a slick pad with a screen on both sides of the patty?



i was thinking about this last night. pre flattening the flowers would increase yield i would think. maybe exactly why @darkrom has been getting larger returns on his second or third presses?

it seems like if the flower is still whole that as the heated iron compresses it, that goodies would begin to melt WHILE the flower is being smashed. wouldnt this result in goodies melting into the flower instead of away from it? and that you would have to keep smashing it to get that rosin out? by this time the same errl has been heated a couple of times.

of course i could be dead wrong, but eliminating that by pre-flattening the flowers may be ideal.
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im not using any screens, just a silicone slick pad folded like parchment.

I think you should add 2 or 3 seconds of press time if your using a slick pad instead of parchment like I am, but I noticed a marked increase in yield from using only a slick pad.

as far as pre squishing them... idk... I have just been placing them in the slickpad and squishing them with the heat... I will see if I notice a diffrence in technique next time.
 
nopartofme

nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
farscaper said:
@2clicker It was purchased in store so I dont think it cost as much as it does here

http://m.remingtonproducts.com/wome...Studio-Pearl-Ceramic-2-Wide-Straightener.aspx

but its wide enough to squish a bud and goes down to 300 on the bottom end. and has a digital temp readout.
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Looks like this is the same model at $26.99 on Amazon:
Remington S9520 2-Inch Ceramic Hair Straightener with Pearl Infused Wide Plates, $26.99

More Remingtons:
Remington S5520 1 3/4 Inch Digital Ceramic Hair Straightener, $27.49
(the plates on this one are longer, though narrower)​
Remington S7231 2-inch Straightener, $24.97
(this one has "steam vents")​
Remington S9620 2-inch Silk Ceramic Flat Iron, $34.96
(the iron is "silk protein infused", not sure what that gets you…)​

Others:
Conair Infiniti 2-Inch Tourmaline Ceramic Flat Iron, $29.99
(this one has the best looks IMO…)​
Bed Head BH214CN1 2-Inch Tourmaline Nano-Ceramic Straightener, $22.99
(Bright pink!)​
 
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Toastface_Killah

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I can vouch for the Conair Infiniti 2inch; the thing takes a BEATING. I slam my entire weight on top of it and it stays perfectly flat. I can't say the same about the default remington that has been posted here a bunch...I broke its electronics/chip on my literal 2nd press, the thing has a wonky random mind of its own now and constantly fluctuates between heat settings lol :(

But yeah, the conair is great... it doesn't give as precise or large a range of temp settings as the remington, but I don't really mind because its default setting (leaving it on green and not selecting a higher level) gets around 310-315 when I checked it with an IR thermometer, which is looking to be a nice temp.
 
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farscaper

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the only real important thing about the hair iron is that it be WIDE! the wider the better!

when beta testing on a narrow iron I noticed the sublimation would move only to the cool edge of the bud if it stuck over even a bit and collected there like a sponge instead of onto the parchment...

this is another reason slick pads work better... better heat retention
 
Toastface_Killah

Toastface_Killah

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farscaper said:
this is another reason slick pads work better... better heat retention
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This is probably a stupid question, but I'm impatient and don't feel like waiting for the mailman to bring some slick pads...would it be wrong to think a standard quality silicone baking sheet from bed bath and beyond will achieve practically the same thing? The only glaring difference I can think of is the size being obviously bigger, but I don't really care too much about that..
 
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farscaper

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Toastface_Killah said:
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm impatient and don't feel like waiting for the mailman to bring some slick pads...would it be wrong to think a standard quality silicone baking sheet from bed bath and beyond will achieve practically the same thing? The only glaring difference I can think of is the size being obviously bigger, but I don't really care too much about that..
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a fair question... and one to surely address.... since there is no solvent contact that isva non issue... but some cheaper silicone have fillers added.

my only concern would be that the fillers dont leach at the operating temps of the tech.

That is why by standard I would recommend a platinum cured silicone mat. However I believe there is a thread here that discussed a pinch type technique to test silicones to see if there is a filler.... you may want to check out that thread.
I have no doubt there are products out there other than oil slick that are platinum cured or at least filler free.
 
nopartofme

nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
I also saw Slick Pad brand teflon rolls on Amazon, which seem like they would work well for this, but I went with the silicone mats in the interest of reusability.
 
darkrom

darkrom

Great Scott!
@farscaper

You are saying you get a higher yield with the oil slick pad? Do you think this is simply you not scraping the parchment perfectly, or do you think it collects more oil from the herbs?

Any way to increase yield is huge with rosin. Its the most valid argument against it, but its also brand new. 1% here, 1% there, it'll add up, so I'll take what I can get.
 
PPN

PPN

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I made a try with moroccan compressed kief between 2 oil slick pads with a clothes iron at 160°C....and I obtain a thin sheet of very compressed kief...that's all (I tried one time 3 seconds and a second time 4 -5 seconds with all the pressure I can done by hand...)

When I blast it with tane I get a 35-40% yield so it's not a really bad product.....

Some help would be nice...
 
Bouldorado

Bouldorado

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@PPN

Try a longer press; 3-4 seconds is what I do with parchment. you may not be getting enough heat with two slick pads. If that still doesn't work, I'd say pressure is probably the limiting factor.
 
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