Your first picture is too small to zoom in on and see any sort of plant matter...@herbivore21, we meet again! This time for me to talk/ask in depth about bubble hash filtration technique for rosin. Up till yesterday, I was using normal (big size) tea bags cut to size for my hash filtration. I was getting decent presses (using a normal hair straightener that has a lowest level of 150 C) which looked like:
Notice the robot!
As you can see, there's still a bit of "plant" material in there which I would like to do away with.
The bigger problem I found is that many times, my hash heated up to the point that it blew out of its filter paper and into the oil (even with 2-3 wraparounds, 4 wraps seem to block the oil). Not the end of the world - I just collected the leaked hash and either put it back into my stash or wadded it up into another filter for a separate press.
Then yesterday, I got my hand on some whatman filter papers, pore size 20-25 um:
Always wanted to use these after remembering my hi-school chem classes
I cut up the abovementioned filter papers (circular) into small rectangles for wrapping the hash into.
I first tried a double wrap, fully hydrated (almost dripping wet-accidentally;I had to dry it out a bit first). This first press scared me a bit because the heat from the plates almost immediately started boiling the water on the filter+hash with a LOUD sizzle. After removing the tongs, I saw that there was hardly any oil that made it out - there were only a few water droplets around the area of the parchment paper.
Too much filtering, I thought, so I tried a 2nd sample with a single wrap only, and with minimal hydration. This 2nd sample yielded better results, especially on the 2nd press. Very clean oil coming out of the filter with no plant matter. Unfortunately, I did not take a pic of this result to post here...
However, I am still not very satisfied with the yield. The Whatman paper seems to be too much of a block (it is rated at 20-25 um as per their spec, but really not as good porosity as a mash mesh or other rosin screens that are out there). Tbh, these filters are a bit of a disappointment considering their cost (equiv. of $25 for a 100 pk) compared to tea/coffee/better filters.
I am going to try another couple of presses tonight and see if I can get a better technique down. I'm also seriously considering trying silk/nylon screens or maybe even muslin cloth.
TLDR - Got good but contaminated yields with tea bags; getting lower but purer yields with lab filter papers of 20-25 um pore size.
My questions for you guys are:
1) How does one prevent the blowout of hash from the filter medium? Is it only a trick of getting the right temp?
2) I have been under the impression that you should stop pressing 2-3 secs after you hear the sizzle. Is this correct? Or is the sizzle to be prolonged??
3) What is the proper hydration technique for this material?
If I can't seem to get (continued) good results, I may even just start pressing the hash like how some of y'all do with buds - no screen at all!
Greetings my friend@herbivore21, we meet again! This time for me to talk/ask in depth about bubble hash filtration technique for rosin. Up till yesterday, I was using normal (big size) tea bags cut to size for my hash filtration. I was getting decent presses (using a normal hair straightener that has a lowest level of 150 C) which looked like:
Notice the robot!
As you can see, there's still a bit of "plant" material in there which I would like to do away with.
The bigger problem I found is that many times, my hash heated up to the point that it blew out of its filter paper and into the oil (even with 2-3 wraparounds, 4 wraps seem to block the oil). Not the end of the world - I just collected the leaked hash and either put it back into my stash or wadded it up into another filter for a separate press.
Then yesterday, I got my hand on some whatman filter papers, pore size 20-25 um:
Always wanted to use these after remembering my hi-school chem classes
I cut up the abovementioned filter papers (circular) into small rectangles for wrapping the hash into.
I first tried a double wrap, fully hydrated (almost dripping wet-accidentally;I had to dry it out a bit first). This first press scared me a bit because the heat from the plates almost immediately started boiling the water on the filter+hash with a LOUD sizzle. After removing the tongs, I saw that there was hardly any oil that made it out - there were only a few water droplets around the area of the parchment paper.
Too much filtering, I thought, so I tried a 2nd sample with a single wrap only, and with minimal hydration. This 2nd sample yielded better results, especially on the 2nd press. Very clean oil coming out of the filter with no plant matter. Unfortunately, I did not take a pic of this result to post here...
However, I am still not very satisfied with the yield. The Whatman paper seems to be too much of a block (it is rated at 20-25 um as per their spec, but really not as good porosity as a mash mesh or other rosin screens that are out there). Tbh, these filters are a bit of a disappointment considering their cost (equiv. of $25 for a 100 pk) compared to tea/coffee/better filters.
I am going to try another couple of presses tonight and see if I can get a better technique down. I'm also seriously considering trying silk/nylon screens or maybe even muslin cloth.
TLDR - Got good but contaminated yields with tea bags; getting lower but purer yields with lab filter papers of 20-25 um pore size.
My questions for you guys are:
1) How does one prevent the blowout of hash from the filter medium? Is it only a trick of getting the right temp?
2) I have been under the impression that you should stop pressing 2-3 secs after you hear the sizzle. Is this correct? Or is the sizzle to be prolonged??
3) What is the proper hydration technique for this material?
If I can't seem to get (continued) good results, I may even just start pressing the hash like how some of y'all do with buds - no screen at all!
@herbivore21, we meet again! This time for me to talk/ask in depth about bubble hash filtration technique for rosin. Up till yesterday, I was using normal (big size) tea bags cut to size for my hash filtration. I was getting decent presses (using a normal hair straightener that has a lowest level of 150 C) which looked like:
Notice the robot!
As you can see, there's still a bit of "plant" material in there which I would like to do away with.
The bigger problem I found is that many times, my hash heated up to the point that it blew out of its filter paper and into the oil (even with 2-3 wraparounds, 4 wraps seem to block the oil). Not the end of the world - I just collected the leaked hash and either put it back into my stash or wadded it up into another filter for a separate press.
Then yesterday, I got my hand on some whatman filter papers, pore size 20-25 um:
Always wanted to use these after remembering my hi-school chem classes
I cut up the abovementioned filter papers (circular) into small rectangles for wrapping the hash into.
I first tried a double wrap, fully hydrated (almost dripping wet-accidentally;I had to dry it out a bit first). This first press scared me a bit because the heat from the plates almost immediately started boiling the water on the filter+hash with a LOUD sizzle. After removing the tongs, I saw that there was hardly any oil that made it out - there were only a few water droplets around the area of the parchment paper.
Too much filtering, I thought, so I tried a 2nd sample with a single wrap only, and with minimal hydration. This 2nd sample yielded better results, especially on the 2nd press. Very clean oil coming out of the filter with no plant matter. Unfortunately, I did not take a pic of this result to post here...
However, I am still not very satisfied with the yield. The Whatman paper seems to be too much of a block (it is rated at 20-25 um as per their spec, but really not as good porosity as a mash mesh or other rosin screens that are out there). Tbh, these filters are a bit of a disappointment considering their cost (equiv. of $25 for a 100 pk) compared to tea/coffee/better filters.
I am going to try another couple of presses tonight and see if I can get a better technique down. I'm also seriously considering trying silk/nylon screens or maybe even muslin cloth.
TLDR - Got good but contaminated yields with tea bags; getting lower but purer yields with lab filter papers of 20-25 um pore size.
My questions for you guys are:
1) How does one prevent the blowout of hash from the filter medium? Is it only a trick of getting the right temp?
2) I have been under the impression that you should stop pressing 2-3 secs after you hear the sizzle. Is this correct? Or is the sizzle to be prolonged??
3) What is the proper hydration technique for this material?
If I can't seem to get (continued) good results, I may even just start pressing the hash like how some of y'all do with buds - no screen at all!
Paid around $70 for a 24 inch x 48 inch roll of 48 micron 316T screen from Amazon. I'd recommend staying away from nylon, and premade bags of any kind. The 316T screens can be cleaned with Everclear and reused.
First off, lower them temps. You'll preserve more terpenes and have less chance of a blowout. I also press most of my hash with a straightener that bottoms out temps at 150C, get a thermometer and turn it off when it reaches desired temp or wait until it cools to desired temp (I've found i get a wonderful terpy batter - budder that shatters - at 90-95 C, if you desire see through shatter hit 100-110 C) I'd also snag some melita unbleached coffee filters if possible from your local walmart or grocer as those are cheap as hell and keep all contaminate out. Check out farmerjoeparker on the youtubes for videos. I also picked up some of that 25 micron SS mesh off ebay which has been working wonders but in the mean time those coffee filters work great as well.@herbivore21, we meet again! This time for me to talk/ask in depth about bubble hash filtration technique for rosin. Up till yesterday, I was using normal (big size) tea bags cut to size for my hash filtration. I was getting decent presses (using a normal hair straightener that has a lowest level of 150 C) which looked like:
Notice the robot!
As you can see, there's still a bit of "plant" material in there which I would like to do away with.
The bigger problem I found is that many times, my hash heated up to the point that it blew out of its filter paper and into the oil (even with 2-3 wraparounds, 4 wraps seem to block the oil). Not the end of the world - I just collected the leaked hash and either put it back into my stash or wadded it up into another filter for a separate press.
Then yesterday, I got my hand on some whatman filter papers, pore size 20-25 um:
Always wanted to use these after remembering my hi-school chem classes
I cut up the abovementioned filter papers (circular) into small rectangles for wrapping the hash into.
I first tried a double wrap, fully hydrated (almost dripping wet-accidentally;I had to dry it out a bit first). This first press scared me a bit because the heat from the plates almost immediately started boiling the water on the filter+hash with a LOUD sizzle. After removing the tongs, I saw that there was hardly any oil that made it out - there were only a few water droplets around the area of the parchment paper.
Too much filtering, I thought, so I tried a 2nd sample with a single wrap only, and with minimal hydration. This 2nd sample yielded better results, especially on the 2nd press. Very clean oil coming out of the filter with no plant matter. Unfortunately, I did not take a pic of this result to post here...
However, I am still not very satisfied with the yield. The Whatman paper seems to be too much of a block (it is rated at 20-25 um as per their spec, but really not as good porosity as a mash mesh or other rosin screens that are out there). Tbh, these filters are a bit of a disappointment considering their cost (equiv. of $25 for a 100 pk) compared to tea/coffee/better filters.
I am going to try another couple of presses tonight and see if I can get a better technique down. I'm also seriously considering trying silk/nylon screens or maybe even muslin cloth.
TLDR - Got good but contaminated yields with tea bags; getting lower but purer yields with lab filter papers of 20-25 um pore size.
My questions for you guys are:
1) How does one prevent the blowout of hash from the filter medium? Is it only a trick of getting the right temp?
2) I have been under the impression that you should stop pressing 2-3 secs after you hear the sizzle. Is this correct? Or is the sizzle to be prolonged??
3) What is the proper hydration technique for this material?
If I can't seem to get (continued) good results, I may even just start pressing the hash like how some of y'all do with buds - no screen at all!
Thanks a ton for all your suggestions guys! So I only managed to do exactly one press last night and got much better results after following a lot of y'all's advice:
The pressed material was very less (I was working with what was left in my 2ndary stash tin) and thus yielded little oil as u can see above. However, I feel I am close to perfect now after doing the following as suggested above:
a) Lowered temps - I warmed up the straightener just a bit before sliding the parchment+filter+material in and turned it off. I then started pressing lightly after turning the straightener back on. This was a great way to control temperature - I could press for a full 5-7 secs without hearing a sizzle. In fact, as @herbivore21 mentioned, I was able to press out most of the oil without the material sizzling at all.
b) Space between material and filter seams - Thanks to @Quetzalcoatl for this one...I kept a couple of mm gap between the material edge and the filter seams in order to avoid the hash blowing out under heat. Worked like a charm!
c) Filter material (tea bag) - I went back to my trusty tea bags (2 layered wrap) after ditching my Whatmans. I was able to get out most of the oil on the first press itself. However, I am going to try a press again tonight with a single layer of Whatman filter paper - seems a shame to waste them - and will report back!
). I yearn for the availability of traditional hashes that I could squish. Sadly there is none to be found for in this herbivore's habitat.
Don't use quilon parchment paper. This was discussed a few times in the earlier half of the thread IIRC.
. Testing, testing always testing. Rock on zor