R.I.P. Robin Williams

[wapimpandgrower]

I can't believe I am going to miss out on the next Mrs. Doubtfire, because of this, unless they can find someone else to play it, but I don't think anyone could play it so well, maybe Billy Crystall, or that guy who played the son of the tv repair man in "Grumpy Old Men".

RIP Buddy.

 

[CarolKing]

He also admitted his two separations had almost sent him broke. ''Divorce is expensive. I used to joke they were going to call it ‘all the money’ but they changed it to ‘alimony’. It’s ripping your heart out through your wallet.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/robin-williams-downsized-before-death-20140812-103al8.html#

One Hour Photo was a movie that really showed his range as an actor.

 

[natural farmer]

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/77351/fuck-you-robin-williams/
My feelings exactly for Robin...

 

[Frederick McGuire]

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/77351/fuck-you-robin-williams/
My feelings exactly for Robin...

If that honestly conveys how you feel about this whole thing, then I feel sorry for you, and you're just wrong.

Depression isn't "Oh, woe is me, I scratched my Ferrari #1stWorldProblems" it's a fucking mental illness - as in his brain wasn't entirely working right.
I can only assume you've never experienced any kind of clinical depression between yourself and those you know over the course of your life - that's great, but if you want to go and blame people for their illnesses, or actions caused by their illness, don't do it in a thread where we are trying to process things in a positive way.
Go to the fuck you thread or something, let this thread stay positive.

 

[Caligula]

If that honestly conveys how you feel about this whole thing, then I feel sorry for you, and you're just wrong.

Depression isn't "Oh, woe is me, I scratched my Ferrari #1stWorldProblems" it's a fucking mental illness - as in his brain wasn't entirely working right.
I can only assume you've never experienced any kind of clinical depression between yourself and those you know over the course of your life - that's great, but if you want to go and blame people for their illnesses, or actions caused by their illness, don't do it in a thread where we are trying to process things in a positive way.
Go to the fuck you thread or something, let this thread stay positive.

Wow, and i was totally going to skip that link. Perhaps the writer is deep into Scientology? Seems in line with what they preach (minus the volcano aliens).

 

[grokit]

While that unfortunate post/link definitely would indeed be better off in the fuck you thread, it did yield a particularily good article (referenced in the comments section that I skipped to lol), here's an excerpt:

"He … looked lost, kind of, and he said that he didn't think he was bipolar. He took the test that I gave the audience and got all the answers right, but didn't think [being bipolar] was something that had anything to do with him," recalled Fisher, who has been candid about her own struggles with mental illness and addiction. "I never heard anything so off the mark. Like I did, he was driven by that frantic eagerness that you don't just want someone to like you, you want to explode on their night sky like a miracle. And he did."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/carrie-fisher-robin-williams-he-725201

 

[CarolKing]

Robin Williams was a brilliant man who was sick. I feel sorry for all that knew and loved him. He had a tough road to hoe. It didn't look like he had that much money here lately. His divorces took a lot of his money. He decided to do the sitcom because he didn't have a choice. Then it was cancelled.

Sometimes you need to just give a person a break. Don't belittle him in death. I liked the Carrie Fisher interview. He was a very vulnerable person who happened to be famous.

EDIT
I downloaded this.
Yet the frenetic, free-association of Williams’ performances mitigated any partisan sting. He was never recognized as a political comic in the nature of Bill Maher, Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert, even if there was little doubt that his politics leaned left. He appeared at a Democratic salute to President Bill Clinton in 2000, and even testified on homelessness before a Senate committee chaired by Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.).

 

[lwien]

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/77351/fuck-you-robin-williams/
My feelings exactly for Robin...

WTF?!?!?

Depression is an illness, much like cancer is an illness. It knows no class, no wealth, no success, no failure, no age, no religion, no gender, etc etc. It can attack anyone, including anyone of us. Suicide is one of the symptoms of that disease and much like fatigue, insomnia, and such, not everyone gets the same symptoms.

When one gets depressed or one gets deep into addiction, or one experiences any kind of mental illness, priorities can tend to get turned completely upside down, even to the point where family means nothing and death means everything.

All of us are ignorant to some things. None of us can say we are knowledgeable about everything. Natural Farmer as well as the person who wrote that blog, in this instance, are totally ignorant of the ramifications of mental illness. Sadly, too many people are as well, for if they weren't, we would have our shit MUCH more together in identifying and treating these illness before a stricken individual can do harm to him/herself or to others.

To think that one who has a mental illness has a brain that is healthy enough to make rational decisions is just plain................wrong.

Why is it that when a person who has, as an example, bladder cancer and as a result, can't control his/her urination, we accept that because they have bladder cancer, but when a person's brain is sick, we can't accept that they may end up doing things that are not acceptable to society's norms and rather than blame the disease, we blame the person.

This mindset really does have to change for it's the "blaming the person" scenario, that inhibits wayyyy too many who have this affliction from every seeking treatment.

 

[Caligula]

WTF?!?!?

Depression is an illness, much like cancer is an illness. It knows no class, no wealth, no success, no failure, no age, no religion, no gender, etc etc. It can attack anyone, including anyone of us. Suicide is one of the symptoms of that disease and much like fatigue, insomnia, and such, not everyone gets the same symptoms.

When one gets depressed or one gets deep into addiction, or one experiences any kind of mental illness, priorities can tend to get turned completely upside down, even to the point where family means nothing and death means everything.

All of us are ignorant to some things. None of us can say we are knowledgeable about everything. Natural Farmer as well as the person who wrote that blog, in this instance, are totally ignorant of the ramifications of mental illness. Sadly, too many people are as well, for if they weren't, we would have our shit MUCH more together in identifying and treating these illness before a stricken individual can do harm to him/herself or to others.

To think that one who has a mental illness has a brain that is healthy enough to make rational decisions is just plain................wrong.

Why is it that when a person who has, as an example, bladder cancer and as a result, can't control his/her urination, we accept that because they have bladder cancer, but when a person's brain is sick, we can't accept that they may end up doing things that are not acceptable to society's norms and rather than blame the disease, we blame person.

This mindset really does have to change for it's the "blaming the person" scenario, that inhibits wayyyy too many who have this affliction from every seeking treatment.

 

[natural farmer]

If that honestly conveys how you feel about this whole thing, then I feel sorry for you, and you're just wrong.

Depression isn't "Oh, woe is me, I scratched my Ferrari #1stWorldProblems" it's a fucking mental illness - as in his brain wasn't entirely working right.
I can only assume you've never experienced any kind of clinical depression between yourself and those you know over the course of your life - that's great, but if you want to go and blame people for their illnesses, or actions caused by their illness, don't do it in a thread where we are trying to process things in a positive way.
Go to the fuck you thread or something, let this thread stay positive.

I don't really care if you feel sorry for me mate... And I didn't know it is a "positive only" thread. Sorry for being "negative". I 've been there, your assumption is wrong! And mental illnesses have their causes. They don't just happen to people. A "sick" mindset can be such a cause. Don't blame luck for mental illness...

 

[cawshook]

I do agree that he should of tried helping others, maybe as a means to find peace within himself. He always wanted to make people happy by laughing, maybe helping others by dedicating some of his time/money could've brought him the same satisfaction? The writer of the article is an asshole though. RIP Robin Williams.
Look at this dumbass mod in the comment section:

"Oh. Ouch!! Now I'm really depressed. Guess I'll have to kill myself. I feel so bad and so unhappy. And its all your fault. Just so glad you stopped by to make it all clear for me. Now, where's that rope?"

 

[RUDE BOY]

I do agree that he should of tried helping others, maybe as a means to find peace within himself.

I saw a skype he sent a woman in OZ dying of cancer (a few weeks ago?). He Could Help Others.
He Just had no answers to escape his own despair.

 

[Caligula]

I do agree that he should of tried helping others, maybe as a means to find peace within himself. He always wanted to make people happy by laughing, maybe helping others by dedicating some of his time/money could've brought him the same satisfaction?

https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/robin-williams

Williams took part in the America: A Tribute to Heroes charity telethon for victims of 9/11.

He performed at the 2008 We are Amused comedy night to benefit Prince's Trust.

Robin Williams is one of many famous people who show signs of Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), and he uses these characteristics to bring laughter to those who need it most.

“You’re only given a little spark of madness. You mustn’t lose it,” Williams has said.

Williams began his life as a comedian in an attempt to gain attention from his mother, who was away working as a fashion model much of the time, leaving him to be raised by the maid employed by his family.

Being, in his words, “short, shy, chubby and lonely” as a child, he also found comedy a helpful way to get his classmates to like him. His talent won him a full scholarship to the prestigious Juilliard School in New York City, where he became close friends with his classmate, Christopher Reeve.

The two remained close, and after the horse riding accident that left Reeve paralyzed, Williams was there to show his friend how to smile again, arriving dressed as a doctor and claiming to be Reeve’s proctologist. It was the first time Reeve laughed after the incident.

Williams went on to join the board of theChristopher Reeve Foundation, and also founded his own Windfall Foundation.

He used his incredible energy to help a variety of causes, from visiting children’s wards in hospitals to entertaining US troops in war zones. His frenetic behavior, typical of those who suffer fromADD, heightens his performance, coaxing those in difficult situations to let their problems go and laugh.

“No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world.”

Robin’s charity work has covered the spectrum from health care and human rights, to education, environmental protection, and the arts. He toured the Middle East with the USO a total of five times, including visits to Iraq and Afghanistan, to help raise morale among the troops and was, perhaps, best known philanthropically for his affiliation withComic Relief, which was founded in 1986 as a non-profit organization to help America’s homeless.

Williams funded the Robin Williams Scholarship at his alma mater, Julliard. The school published astatement on his passing.

In 2010, Robin gave 100% of the proceeds from his shows in New Zealand to victims of the devastating earthquake in Christchurch.

Robin Williams died in August, 2014.

Robin Williams has supported the following charities:

Aid Still Required
American Foundation for AIDS Research
Amnesty International
Andre Agassi Foundation for Education
Augie's Quest
Bob Woodruff Foundation
Celebrity Fight Night Foundation
Christopher & Dana Reeve Foundation
Comic Relief
David Foster Foundation
Doctors Without Borders
Dogs Deserve Better
Dream Foundation
Elizabeth-Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Heifer International
International Medical Corps
Keep Memory Alive
LIVESTRONG
Love Our Children USA
Luke Neuhedel Foundation
Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center
MusiCares
Prince's Rainforests Project
Prince's Trust
Robert F Kennedy Memorial
Smile Train
St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
UNICEF

 

[lwien]

And mental illnesses have their causes. They don't just happen to people.

Huh?

I do agree that he should of tried helping others, maybe as a means to find peace within himself.

He should have tried? Huh?

Here's but one instance..........out of hundreds, and considering the list above, maybe just one out of thousands:

 

[cawshook]

https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/robin-williams

That's great to see. I guess I just want to believe suicide isn't the only way, I want to believe something could've saved him. I know depression is an ongoing war with multiple battles. Sometimes you get tired of fighting... I'm not faulting him in any way.

He should have tried? Huh?

You're really taking it the wrong way. What I meant is dedicating himself to a cause. Experiencing first hand. Something similar to what vitolo is currently doing with his awesome vapor trail program.

 

[Caligula]

That's fine. I just wanted to point out that he did, indeed, devote a lot of time and money (important to note it wasn't just money) to helping others. That's all.

 

[lwien]

I guess I just want to believe suicide isn't the only way,

To an undamaged, healthy mind, it is not the only way. To a very sick, unhealthy mind, it could very well be the ONLY way.......as that mind sees it.

 

[Caligula]

To an undamaged, healthy mind, it is not the only way. To a very sick, unhealthy mind, it could very well be the ONLY way.......as that mind sees it.

Which is why it takes others to help. A person who has a terminal yet manageable disease (take diabetes for example) wouldn't be able to survive without the support of others.

 

[cawshook]

To an undamaged, healthy mind, it is not the only way. To a very sick, unhealthy mind, it could very well be the ONLY way.......as that mind sees it.

Trust me I know. Like I said I refuse to believe suicide is the only way, that's to give me hope. A combination of things sometimes is what it takes. Maybe a complete change in life where you dedicate yourself to a cause, maybe just surrounding yourself with the right environment/people. Try anything and everything. I don't claim to have the cure, and I'm not claiming its easy. Maybe he tried all that and still failed.

 

[lwien]

Which is why it takes others to help. A person who has a terminal yet manageable disease (take diabetes for example) wouldn't be able to survive without the support of others.

I agree, but in this instance, I don't know if anything could have been done. Experts who have reviewed what happened here stated that his suicide was not preplanned but more of a spontaneous event. I guess an argument could have been made that his wife should have insisted that they don't sleep in two separate bedrooms.

People who have suffered from mental illnesses, and I include addiction in this, for a multitude of years become very proficient at covering up their pain. They can become masters at illusion.

Like I said I refuse to believe suicide is the only way....

Then maybe, you're mind and brain is not as sick or damaged as his was. It may be that he too refused to believe that suicide is the only way, but that the disease progressed to a point where he was no longer able to think rationally.

 

[Caligula]

For RWs specific case, the immediate help he needed was another person in the room. I'd view that like needing someone there to do CPR if you drop unconscious from a major heart attack.

And I don't necessarily mean helping him medically after the fact either.

 

[lwien]

For RWs specific case, the immediate help he needed was another person in the room. I'd view that like needing someone there to do CPR if you drop unconscious from a major heart attack.

And I don't necessarily mean helping him medically after the fact either.

Understood, and agree.

 

[Caligula]

Understood, and agree.

Thank you. I was thinking about my analogy and I think it would be better to say its like having a sponsor or close friend with you when you're about to relapse as an addict.

Probably something you can't handle by yourself but with another person, it could be very (relatively) simple.

 

[lwien]

Thank you. I was thinking about my analogy and I think it would be better to say its like having a sponsor or close friend with you when you're about to relapse as an addict.

Yeah but how many addicts who have had very active sponsors or close friends still relapsed?

 

[Caligula]

Yeah but how many addicts who have had very active sponsors or close friends still relapsed?

While said sponsor/friend/family member was physically in the same room with them? Probably a very small %.

I know its not reasonable to think that someone should always be around with you 100% of the time, but when is that always the case for anything? My wife carries an Epipen with her just in case of a severe allergic reaction. This is a great way to reduce her potential risks (especially if she knows she will be in places which put her more at risk of exposure), but it would be foolish to assume she will always have access to it 100% of the time, for the rest of her life.

That's a risk she has to live with.

Such is life?

Regardless, it doesn't mean that she should't try.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if there was someone around who could spot his mental distress, this may not have happened... since we were looking for a way to have prevented this from happening and all.