Quartz Banger Thread
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Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
Thanks for the feedback and taking a sacrifice for the good of all.
If i find one of the long bucket high neck ones from Mayoral at a my buddies shop, i may think about getting it. At least i would get to see it before buying it. I would never have bought this one had i held it. Granted, Mayoral provided me pics to pick from but how can i see tiny lil ass bubble here and there around the joint in a photo with 10 others to choose from.
As for best quality so far, its still Toro but i have yet to see Evan Shore and Quave. Quave will be answered today. I lowered my hopes since i had high hopes for Mayoral to only be let down. I didnt want that to happen with Quave.
Also, I am not too sure how i like the thick ass bottom on the mayoral for torching using an sapphire insert inside. My IR gun is all over the place using this. Mainly very cold on the insert but my IR gun is saying 500 to 550F.
I am really liking the thick bottom of the eternal's fat bottom using that with the hybrid, axial style coils. I dropped my temp to 50F to 550F from 600F. 600F was using a Hoyes and DC barrel coil. Dont know what that means. I went down to 530 but ended up with a few hits. I prefer less and more in one rip.
Ill let you know what i think of the Quave tomorrow. Most likely the ESB long Jawn is next but in a few weeks. I just ordered a brothership straight fab out of nowhere. Well cant say no where, @710Coils sent me a pic of his glass and i saw two brotherships sitting there which lead me to the site and entering my credit card info. SMH
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MinnBobber
Well-Known Member
when torching my quartz banger,I aim to get the entire bottom glowing hot and maybe 1/3 of the front sidewall glowing.
Is that best or what should one aim for when torching it? I focus the flame on where the front sidewall meets the bottom cuz the dab is going to be placed there.
Best practice would be what? Newbie with the banger.
Is that best or what should one aim for when torching it? I focus the flame on where the front sidewall meets the bottom cuz the dab is going to be placed there.
Best practice would be what? Newbie with the banger.
Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
Don't torch for over a min. No need for it to be red. Or glow red anywhere.
Always keep the flat tip moving. Never let it heat one area.
I don't focus the flame tip on any one area. My goal is just to keep it moving all around.
That's what I do. I don't torch that much tho. A few times a day.
Always keep the flat tip moving. Never let it heat one area.
I don't focus the flame tip on any one area. My goal is just to keep it moving all around.
That's what I do. I don't torch that much tho. A few times a day.
bizwaxzion
Enigmatic Cannabist
My 
- I never heat to glowing - 30 seconds max on a cold banger less on a reheat. I'd rather run out of heat and bump it than take a hot dab.
Edited to add that I clean up after every dab with 1-2 qtips and sometimes distilled water. I never use the torch as a banger cleaning tool.
- I never heat to glowing - 30 seconds max on a cold banger less on a reheat. I'd rather run out of heat and bump it than take a hot dab.Edited to add that I clean up after every dab with 1-2 qtips and sometimes distilled water. I never use the torch as a banger cleaning tool.
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just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
...just recieved my ah xl custom coil... 
damn this is a giant step-up from reg quartz banger + coil... 
...wish i bit the bullet sooner... much sooner...
damn this is a giant step-up from reg quartz banger + coil... ...wish i bit the bullet sooner... much sooner...
Ferrusbuelker
Well-Known Member
@Shooby Sorry to hear about your experience with Mayoral, they are the worst. I had 40mm that came with bubbles, sent it back (at my expense) and they sent SAME banger back then tried to offer a discount. My 50mm cracked from torching and they said they would replace it and sent back one that was chipped and something charred on it. Never again.
Been interesting to read everyone different experience with the quartz tech. I love my Evan Shore long jawn quality is right there with Toro if not above. I’ve been pairing it with a eternal opaque double gear and the ES plug bubble cap and that gear spins. Really major hits when done right. The key is once the gear starts to move adjust the cap very slightly pause and rip hard. Just the like the balls sometimes takes a sec before they really start moving. The only quality control on Eternal gears is lacking. I had to go through a couple before I got one that spins.
I also a spinner from PB which I prefer and probably recommend as the quality control is better although I use PB gear on 30mm eternal or Toro with a eternal cap not the ESB. Just make sure the nub is centered and the wings are cut deep towards center should almost look like they could break off. I prefer it over beads although I find both you have to go in a bit too hot and my lungs are exhausted by the end of the process.
Another one I like is the Nastee 36mm thermal with 30mm opaque insert from CC. That banger retains heat about twice as long as any banger I’ve ever used it takes two big shots to really get to temp but once drop the insert and I mean packed full it goes and goes and goes . I wouldn’t use it with a coil as it is a true thermal vacuum sealed and think a coil would destroy it. I also have 50mm thermal of Nastee with multi airflow cap and that is just way out of control.
One more recommendation I have a JRed mega e knot that works great with my DC 30mm coil. I use to always burn everything with a regular knot but I love the mega smooth sipping or big as you like it. Cleaning is bit of a pain.
Now if I could just figure out how to hook up my diamond loop to an enail. I was thinking using the heating wire that is in my dab bulb. Anyone know what wire that is? I reached out to Kilby but haven’t heard anything. Anyway love this theard although don’t post much. Thanks for all the experimentation and ideas. Keep em coming!
Been interesting to read everyone different experience with the quartz tech. I love my Evan Shore long jawn quality is right there with Toro if not above. I’ve been pairing it with a eternal opaque double gear and the ES plug bubble cap and that gear spins. Really major hits when done right. The key is once the gear starts to move adjust the cap very slightly pause and rip hard. Just the like the balls sometimes takes a sec before they really start moving. The only quality control on Eternal gears is lacking. I had to go through a couple before I got one that spins.
I also a spinner from PB which I prefer and probably recommend as the quality control is better although I use PB gear on 30mm eternal or Toro with a eternal cap not the ESB. Just make sure the nub is centered and the wings are cut deep towards center should almost look like they could break off. I prefer it over beads although I find both you have to go in a bit too hot and my lungs are exhausted by the end of the process.
Another one I like is the Nastee 36mm thermal with 30mm opaque insert from CC. That banger retains heat about twice as long as any banger I’ve ever used it takes two big shots to really get to temp but once drop the insert and I mean packed full it goes and goes and goes . I wouldn’t use it with a coil as it is a true thermal vacuum sealed and think a coil would destroy it. I also have 50mm thermal of Nastee with multi airflow cap and that is just way out of control.
One more recommendation I have a JRed mega e knot that works great with my DC 30mm coil. I use to always burn everything with a regular knot but I love the mega smooth sipping or big as you like it. Cleaning is bit of a pain.
Now if I could just figure out how to hook up my diamond loop to an enail. I was thinking using the heating wire that is in my dab bulb. Anyone know what wire that is? I reached out to Kilby but haven’t heard anything. Anyway love this theard although don’t post much. Thanks for all the experimentation and ideas. Keep em coming!
Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
Yeah.. mayoral is upsetting because it's quality of work mixed with shitty service. Eternal is just shitty service. I'm done with both of them.
I ordered a long jawn. That was next on my list to get so I can try a ESB. As of now, my favorite is Toro and Quave isn't far behind. I really like this Quave as it's tiny compared to others. But really well made. As good as Toro. I'm excited to try this ESB long jawn.
I ordered a long jawn. That was next on my list to get so I can try a ESB. As of now, my favorite is Toro and Quave isn't far behind. I really like this Quave as it's tiny compared to others. But really well made. As good as Toro. I'm excited to try this ESB long jawn.
Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
LMAO wow so i broke my toro grail this weekend. My second toro i broke in as many months. purely my fault and ill explain. So the floor of the Toros are extremely flat. The flattest i have seen in any brand banger or flat top. And the sapphire inserts are very flat on the bottom too. so it sits very nice inside the toro which is why i love these dam things and use it as my primary quartz. But when using these with a coil, the oils ends up splattering (beads inside insert) all over the place and eventually gets to the floor and when i qtip, i move the insert around and the oil gets underneath. Once cooled, the insert gets stuck with the reclaim. So i went to get the sapphire out and i try to wiggle the insert and it didnt come lose and re-gripped and pushed harder and got it loose. but it hit the other side of the bucket, that 2mm tolerance of room i had moved it broke the wall of the toro and made a hole in the wall. SMH. Sapphire insert is fine as i dont expect much to break the sapphire as its extremely hard and strong.
So if you have an insert stuck on the bottom of your banger/flat top, use a torch for 10 seconds to loosen it or turn your enail to like 150F to loosen it to remove. The reason i wanted to remove is to clean the quartz and insert.
Out for Delivery is a replacement toro grail and a Evan Shore Long Jawn. Im excited to try that bad boy.
So if you have an insert stuck on the bottom of your banger/flat top, use a torch for 10 seconds to loosen it or turn your enail to like 150F to loosen it to remove. The reason i wanted to remove is to clean the quartz and insert.
Out for Delivery is a replacement toro grail and a Evan Shore Long Jawn. Im excited to try that bad boy.
ClearBlueLou
unbearably light in the being....
I’m real disappointed in this thread. As an ancient toker, but a newb to dabbing / concentrates, I came here to get oriented to the quartz+banger dance, but the jargon and unidentifiable shorthand’s assumptions, etc leave me wondering how sort out the signal from the noise.
To make matters worse, rather than clarifying, it leapt into an even more jargon-riddled e-nail measuring party. I have just ordered my first quartz banger, cap, and dab rig without ANY constructive info here. All the actual info here is a simplistic and unhelpful as an info-blurb on a sales website, amounting to “two legs good, four legs bad!”
May I request that the quartz brain-trust describe and illustrate the differences between a banger, a castle, a daisy, a reactor, a grail, a gavel, and the other obscure terms and the pieces they refer to? Describe the differences between an slant-top vs flat-top, the pros and cons of slitted v unslitted, the variety of carb cap types, the advantages and disadvantages of the various styles, joint sizes, bucket diameters, etc? Enumerate the reasons why one would want a $500 piece v a $150 piece v a $20 piece?
Seriously. Not here to rag on anyone, but this thread seemed like a great chance to get all that squared away and make intelligent, informed choices; instead, I ended up simply getting what I got and hoping to be happy with it once it arrives and some sort of dab material is found.
I took a break halfway thru reading the thread because the conversation shifted entirely to the nuances of top-dollar gear and the minutiae of enails, ‘inserts’, etc. Last post I read, inserts were described as “everywhere”, which is just not true in my world. Are we informing and educating each other, or what.
Sorry to be grumpy about it, but like Freewheeling Franklin says, dope gets you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no dope, and I’ve been out for six weeks...but seriously, e-nails may be USED with quartz, but it’s a separate thread, just like IH and lighters are different threads; they shouldn’t REPLACE basic information about the basics in a thread about the basics.
To make matters worse, rather than clarifying, it leapt into an even more jargon-riddled e-nail measuring party. I have just ordered my first quartz banger, cap, and dab rig without ANY constructive info here. All the actual info here is a simplistic and unhelpful as an info-blurb on a sales website, amounting to “two legs good, four legs bad!”
May I request that the quartz brain-trust describe and illustrate the differences between a banger, a castle, a daisy, a reactor, a grail, a gavel, and the other obscure terms and the pieces they refer to? Describe the differences between an slant-top vs flat-top, the pros and cons of slitted v unslitted, the variety of carb cap types, the advantages and disadvantages of the various styles, joint sizes, bucket diameters, etc? Enumerate the reasons why one would want a $500 piece v a $150 piece v a $20 piece?
Seriously. Not here to rag on anyone, but this thread seemed like a great chance to get all that squared away and make intelligent, informed choices; instead, I ended up simply getting what I got and hoping to be happy with it once it arrives and some sort of dab material is found.
I took a break halfway thru reading the thread because the conversation shifted entirely to the nuances of top-dollar gear and the minutiae of enails, ‘inserts’, etc. Last post I read, inserts were described as “everywhere”, which is just not true in my world. Are we informing and educating each other, or what.
Sorry to be grumpy about it, but like Freewheeling Franklin says, dope gets you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no dope, and I’ve been out for six weeks...but seriously, e-nails may be USED with quartz, but it’s a separate thread, just like IH and lighters are different threads; they shouldn’t REPLACE basic information about the basics in a thread about the basics.
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buddingglasshead
Well-Known Member
I’m real disappointed in this thread. As an ancient toker, but a newb to dabbing / concentrates, I came here to get oriented to the quartz+banger dance, but the jargon and unidentifiable shorthand’s assumptions, etc leave me wondering how sort out the signal from the noise.
To make matters worse, rather than clarifying, it leapt into an even more jargon-riddled e-nail measuring party. I have just ordered my first quartz banger, cap, and dab rig without ANY constructive info here. All the actual info here is a simplistic and unhelpful as an info-blurb on a sales website, amounting to “two legs good, four legs bad!”
May I request that the quartz brain-trust describe and illustrate the differences between a banger, a castle, a daisy, a reactor, a grail, a gavel, and the other obscure terms and the pieces they refer to? Describe the differences between an slant-top vs flat-top, the pros and cons of slitted v unslitted, the variety of carb cap types, the advantages and disadvantages of the various styles, joint sizes, bucket diameters, etc? Enumerate the reasons why one would want a $500 piece v a $150 piece v a $20 piece?
Seriously. Not here to rag on anyone, but this thread seemed like a great chance to get all that squared away and make intelligent, informed choices; instead, I ended up simply getting what I got and hoping to be happy with it once it arrives and some sort of dab material is found.
I took a break halfway thru reading the thread because the conversation shifted entirely to the nuances of top-dollar gear and the minutiae of enails, ‘inserts’, etc. Last post I read, inserts were described as “everywhere”, which is just not true in my world. Are we informing and educating each other, or what.
Sorry to be grumpy about it, but like Freewheeling Franklin says, dope gets you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no dope, and I’ve been out for six weeks...but seriously, e-nails may be USED with quartz, but it’s a separate thread, just like IH and lighters are different threads; they shouldn’t REPLACE basic information about the basics in a thread about the basics.
Learn to use Google and help yourself? FC isn't the only place you can find information. Looking at the first post in the thread... Doesn't really seem that offtopic. Enails were mentioned literally in the first post.
Not trying to be a dick. Dabbing just can be very complicated because there are so many ways to do it even though there is a "single" vape being a quartz banger. There are many ways to augment the experience. Inserts, insert drop, beads, coil, etc
The banger has won out of every other major type of quartz style. Majorly. Some of the old styles have evolved but are still pretty niche. Some new designs as well, but always niche and usually expensive.
Considering inserts are ~2 bucks from China (non-bulk) it's pretty hard to not consider them everywhere.
Sorry to hear about your forced tbreak. Shit sucks. Was forced on a 48 hr one myself and I was in a shit ton of pain and not in the greatest of moods.
If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. I'm sure most of the members on here wouldn't mind helping, but coming here and "flaming" (not really just can't think of a better word) the discussion only dissuades the conversation.
@ClearBlueLou if you shoot me a direct message. I can try to help you with your questions about using a banger with and enail coil and any other questions around bangers in general
ClearBlueLou
unbearably light in the being....
Thanks for the responses, y’all...not flaming the thread or contributors to it, but I understand how it might have felt like I was....
FTR, my Google fu is pretty solid, having started searching before Alta Vista was top search dog, but the same confusing-to-me mix of ultra-basic and high-end in-crowd is more common than I’d have believed. I came to this thread here LAST, after having learned so much from the Concentrates for Newbs thread, and hoping for a similar experience.
I think I will take a clue from @FlyingLow and start a thread, rather than griping here about here. I may well start an enail for newbs thread, too. Appreciate y’all, and thanks.
FTR, my Google fu is pretty solid, having started searching before Alta Vista was top search dog, but the same confusing-to-me mix of ultra-basic and high-end in-crowd is more common than I’d have believed. I came to this thread here LAST, after having learned so much from the Concentrates for Newbs thread, and hoping for a similar experience.
I think I will take a clue from @FlyingLow and start a thread, rather than griping here about here. I may well start an enail for newbs thread, too. Appreciate y’all, and thanks.
Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
I’m real disappointed in this thread. As an ancient toker, but a newb to dabbing / concentrates, I came here to get oriented to the quartz+banger dance, but the jargon and unidentifiable shorthand’s assumptions, etc leave me wondering how sort out the signal from the noise.
To make matters worse, rather than clarifying, it leapt into an even more jargon-riddled e-nail measuring party. I have just ordered my first quartz banger, cap, and dab rig without ANY constructive info here. All the actual info here is a simplistic and unhelpful as an info-blurb on a sales website, amounting to “two legs good, four legs bad!”
May I request that the quartz brain-trust describe and illustrate the differences between a banger, a castle, a daisy, a reactor, a grail, a gavel, and the other obscure terms and the pieces they refer to? Describe the differences between an slant-top vs flat-top, the pros and cons of slitted v unslitted, the variety of carb cap types, the advantages and disadvantages of the various styles, joint sizes, bucket diameters, etc? Enumerate the reasons why one would want a $500 piece v a $150 piece v a $20 piece?
Seriously. Not here to rag on anyone, but this thread seemed like a great chance to get all that squared away and make intelligent, informed choices; instead, I ended up simply getting what I got and hoping to be happy with it once it arrives and some sort of dab material is found.
I took a break halfway thru reading the thread because the conversation shifted entirely to the nuances of top-dollar gear and the minutiae of enails, ‘inserts’, etc. Last post I read, inserts were described as “everywhere”, which is just not true in my world. Are we informing and educating each other, or what.
Sorry to be grumpy about it, but like Freewheeling Franklin says, dope gets you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no dope, and I’ve been out for six weeks...but seriously, e-nails may be USED with quartz, but it’s a separate thread, just like IH and lighters are different threads; they shouldn’t REPLACE basic information about the basics in a thread about the basics.
Those are a lot of basic questions. I guess with this thread, we never really thought about newbies but only advancing the concept and tech.
You dont sound grumpy but confused. My recommendation is to ask the questions you have rather than asking people to explain how and why to dab with a quartz bucket. Or simply chat with someone like @710Coils.
But googling and maybe use IG will get you far.
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Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
Here is a video using a Fatboy/KJ bubble cap and then back to Gordo and then back. You can see the difference!!
Temp is about 460F on this one and im dropping some live resin this time around. Rig is a Leisure Baby Jesus
I can't edit the slomo so i just deleted the prior video of just the gordo bubble cap since it was 3 and a half mins of slomo.
Temp is about 460F on this one and im dropping some live resin this time around. Rig is a Leisure Baby Jesus
I can't edit the slomo so i just deleted the prior video of just the gordo bubble cap since it was 3 and a half mins of slomo.
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gunmetalshark
Glass Addict
Woha...amazing man...and u rly ordered now ruby inserts aswell.? ...crazzzyy i wonder if there will ever get a diamond insert available bcs i know whos got to have it first for sure
Still i wonder why u always using percolation or even dual percolation rigs, no love for some small flavor savers with just 2-holes or a inline slit..?
Still i wonder why u always using percolation or even dual percolation rigs, no love for some small flavor savers with just 2-holes or a inline slit..?
Shooby
4ShOObY3 - IG
Woha...amazing man...and u rly ordered now ruby inserts aswell.? ...crazzzyy i wonder if there will ever get a diamond insert available bcs i know whos got to have it first for sure
Still i wonder why u always using percolation or even dual percolation rigs, no love for some small flavor savers with just 2-holes or a inline slit..?
I plan on having all the sizes of ruby and sapphire. The ruby for my torch dabs and travel and sapphire for my coils. I dont like messing with the sapphire inserts when they are hot and when im going to my office in the mornings. Sometimes the sapphire is stuck inside a bucket cuz of reclaim that got on the side of the insert that the qtip cant reach. Then i have to torch it to loosen it and wait like 10 mins to cool before taking it with me. So i wanted to get another sapphire and i figured why not try the ruby instead of another and be the FC guinea pig. its only like $100+ more for red and polished surface.
That would be the worlds most expensive insert, Diamond insert, imagine the karats on that boy! Someone needs to do it to just try it for fucks sake!
I am a believer that you dont need the smallest rig to get the most flavor. But i havent tried anything smaller than 6 inches. (thats what she said..lol) or 4 slits. So my world is limited on these. I like the lil restriction of incyclers and even recyclers. The closest i have now to something like that is that new brothership which is a 8 inch 4 slit straight fab. I like it and been using it a daily but when i return to using an incycler, its just feels better ripping it.
I also have no friends that have or use any of these smaller 2-3 slit hangar banger style rigs. The friends i have that do dab have Toro, Mothership or leisure. But i guess most of them also smoke flower if they had it too. I dont smoke flower at all and will only vape it with the flowerpot. And I also dont want to spend like $500+ on a micro and not like it too. It will probably be one of those things that i have to try out first and see if i fall in love with the way it rips.
If I'm up in OC you'll have to try my 5" mini rig with 2 hole perc and see what ya think. Personally I can't really imagine going back to a bigger tube for a daily driver after using the mini.
FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
I've not yet gotten into inserts, balls, etc. I've been following along for months and have been waiting to ask the following questions:
I'd like to keep the all-in budget for this conversion around $200-$300 if possible. How would you load your shopping cart? Please post links.
- I have a Dnail using a SiC dish. What quartz banger should I get? What coil do I need to pair it with?
- Inserts- Where to begin? What do I need? I savor flavor and efficiency but I also want a punch to the face.
I'd like to keep the all-in budget for this conversion around $200-$300 if possible. How would you load your shopping cart? Please post links.
@FlyingLow I am going to have some pretty sweet 25mm and 30mm bangers for sale next week. I can hook you up with a deal on a setup (Quartz banger, clip kit, coil, and a few terp pearls)
Shoot me a message and we can sort out what you would need to get into the quartz banger game.
Shoot me a message and we can sort out what you would need to get into the quartz banger game.
@FlyingLow Definitely hit up @710Coils
I really like the opaque quartz, low temp vapor production actually seems better than my SiC Halo.
I really like the opaque quartz, low temp vapor production actually seems better than my SiC Halo.
Being hump-day, I figured it was a good day for some banger shots. All up close and personal 
25mm clear:
25mm Opaque:
30mm Clear:
30mm Opaque:
Dont forget to use the below link to save 10.00 on your order. It will show up on the shipping checkout screen
https://710coils.com/discount/FC appreciation
25mm clear:
25mm Opaque:
30mm Clear:
30mm Opaque:
Dont forget to use the below link to save 10.00 on your order. It will show up on the shipping checkout screen
https://710coils.com/discount/FC appreciation
tylerj55
Well-Known Member
30mm opaque...and it has a beveled lip? Can I kiss you?Being hump-day, I figured it was a good day for some banger shots. All up close and personal
25mm clear:
25mm Opaque:
30mm Clear:
30mm Opaque:
Dont forget to use the below link to save 10.00 on your order. It will show up on the shipping checkout screen
https://710coils.com/discount/FC appreciation