Discontinued Purple-Days Vaporizer

[lwien]

This is from Tom, a list of woods on a warm to coolest scale:

Warmest
Alder
Cherry
Black Walnut - plain (figured Black Walnut is not available at this time, we have some curing)
Maple - figured (not available at this time, we have some curing)
Myrtle
Ash (Black Mesquite when cured should be about the same)
Coolest

So, from this scale, it looks like your walnut is going to run a bit cooler than my Cherry unit. Another suggestion. Until you get some hours put on your vape, try out a koozie which will cause your vape to run a bit warmer. Ambient temperatures also have a lot to do with this. If you have a fan blowing on the vape, or it's pretty cool in your house, it will lower the operating temps.

 

[Ash]

Yeah, my results are the same as lwien's, but it did take a few days to get the feel for the right grind and the right technique. Initially, I was grinding too fine and packing too tight. There is an optimal amount of airflow that you'll get the feel for.

As for temp, it took about a month for the wood to fully dry out and for the PD to reach its final operating temp. I, too, recommend the koozie for the first few weeks, but don't leave it on there full-time.

 

[Wolface]

Thanks for the tips Iwien. I am getting it to a golden color now but it if far from brown. I may have to invest in a 13.5 volt adapter like some zap owner's do unless it does indeed get hotter with time. For now I will saving the golden abv for a nightcap in another vape.

 

[lwien]

I strongly suggest NOT to get the 13.5v adapter. The PD really doesn't need it and it can put undue wear and tear on it. A koozie that you can take off once it reaches a temp that you like is a better way to go.

Glad to hear that the golden color is now coming through. I do believe that with a bit more experience as well as a few more weeks of time, you'll be totally happy with it without the need for a 13.5v adapter or a koozie.

Enjoy.

 

[Wolface]

I am starting to see that there is a bit of a learning curve in regards to grind and packing the stem. Draws are getting smoother now with a little more browning now than before. I suppose it's like the MFLB that also seems to get better with practice. The build quality and craftmanship are top notch. Looks beautiful on the desk! I should mention that I turned off the fan behind me now also. I guess the practice won't hurt either!

 

[elmomuzz]

I built my own pandora purple days and can see how varitaions in construction would make a difference in performance. The heat exchanger washers need to be nice and snug and the resistor needs to be making good contact with the inner wall of the steel tube.

Mine gives one solid hit from a full pack leaving the herb brown and toasted. I love it.

 

[Wolface]

I have been setting the copper vapor cup on the unit with fragrance oil sometimes between using as a vape (wife's idea), Could this be sucking some energy from the heat exchanger?

 

[lwien]

I have been setting the copper vapor cup on the unit with fragrance oil sometimes between using as a vape (wife's idea), Could this be sucking some energy from the heat exchanger?

Absolutely. Kind of works like a heat sink. Fuck, I totally forgot about that as being a potential problem.

 

[Wolface]

Does anyone know if that wooden dowel setting tool that comes with the kit could be used as a kind of a cozy on the heat exchanger to help bring the temp up just before vaping or would it just charr or burn it?

 

[lwien]

That won't work. If you want the PD to run a bit warmer, get a koozie to go over the entire vape.

 

[SmokingElectricity]

I really want one of these. Think i might order one after the holidays.

 

[return2heaven]

That won't work. If you want the PD to run a bit warmer, get a koozie to go over the entire vape.

i hear "koozie" mentioned alot and i was wondering exactly what you use? i googled it and i see that its those foam type can holders? how do you slip it over the cord?

 

[lwien]

Just slip it over the top part of the vape. Doesn't have to cover the whole vape, but if you want it to, just cut a slit in the foam for the cord to slid through. Of course, the koozie shouldn't have a bottom to it. Should just be a foam sleeve.

 

[max]

That won't work. If you want the PD to run a bit warmer, get a koozie to go over the entire vape.

i hear "koozie" mentioned alot and i was wondering exactly what you use? i googled it and i see that its those foam type can holders? how do you slip it over the cord?

You don't. Just make a hole for the cord to go through.

 

[Wolface]

Every store I went to today said all their koozies are packed away till spring! If these things need a koozie to work properly maybe they should come with one. After much testing with different grinds ect. I am convinced it needs to be hotter. Still getting varying results from this thing. I think it ran hotter yesterday. Today's stuff was still greenish no matter what I did.

 

[lwien]

Every store I went to today said all their kazoozies are packed away till spring! If these things need a kazooie to work properly maybe they should come with one! After much testing with different grinds ect. I am convinced it needs to be hotter. Still getting varying results from this thing. I think it ran hotter yesterday. Today's stuff was still greenish no matter what I did.

They DON'T need a koozie to run properly. There are hundreds of customers, including myself, who have never used a koozie. Some people, however, who use their PD's in colder climates, or who like to vape at close to 400F, would benefit from using one, but this is the exception rather than the rule.

The PD is basically a very simple device whose operating variables could be traced back to user practices 99.9% of the time. If you are getting varying results, with the same bud, same grind, same packing and drawing techniques, than possibly, you may have some voltage fluctuations going on at the power source.

 

[Wolface]

I will try my test meter in the outlet or try another outlet location.

 

[vap999]

That won't work. If you want the PD to run a bit warmer, get a koozie to go over the entire vape.

Rather than a koozie, which restricts the user, like wall adapters, to a single operating temperature, try neatly wrapping or otherwise layering stretchy or other fabric around the PD. This way you can adjust your operating temperature by controlling the thickness of this insulation, such as the number of layers of fabric. Or along the same lines, larger and online crafts/art supply shops often sell felt, both plastic and natural (wool), and thin sheets of the same koozie plastic that should work well. There are innumerable ways the material might be held in place - tape, glue, glued-on pieces of Velcro (make your own PD jacket), rubber bands, the hooks used with Ace-type bandages, etc.

 

[Wolface]

There MUST be a reason why some zap owners and even the "Better days" guy are playing with variable voltage adapters or fixed 13.5vdc on these. My meter reads a fairly steady 116 volts AC from my wall outlet.

 

[Wolface]

For some reason I am getting better results when the unit is upside down for vapor-bonging which i prefer anyway.

 

[NoSmoke]

I got my Adler Pandora kit back in July and i'm just too damn lazy to build it

Not even this guy could motivate me
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[hereatlast]

Just got a new Black Walnut unit, another beautiful one



NoSmoke get on that! It really isn't too tough or time consuming but I understand not having the time.

 

[Wolface]

WoW. This thing is amazing for solo hot water vapor-bonging. Very smooth hits overall. The Supreme is great for this too but can be quite lung busting if one is not careful. The chamber on the Supreme is many times larger than a stem. I love how the PD is ready to use in a flash though. I think if I get a koozie for a little heat boost I should be rockin.

 

[SmokingElectricity]

would the PD be good for attaching a tube for water filtration?

Also, what sort of skill level would one need to build a pandora kit? Never assembled a vape before, but put alot of ikea crap together...

 

[elmomuzz]

There MUST be a reason why some zap owners and even the "Better days" guy are playing with variable voltage adapters or fixed 13.5vdc on these. My meter reads a fairly steady 116 volts AC from my wall outlet.

What you would measure with your meter is the voltage coming from the wall wart adapter. It should be 12 volts. I doubt this is the problem.