tom, if you don't get it then there is nothing i can do to make you understand. maybe you've spent a little too much time on the seller side and not enough time on the buyer side. i've gone through all the old posts of this thread. people have been dissatisfied by the structure of the waiting process since this thread began. vapenow used to post frequently and keep customers in the loop. then, they gave up. when things started getting far beyond the 9/14 week wait they disappeared. then, after all is said and done they show up to hawk a couple pds. in the meantime, i've got people asking me questions as if i was a vapenow representative. sorry, in my world that is SHIT customer service.
compare that to your involvement on this thread and other threads. you answer all comers. i respect that. vapenow chose to hide when the shit hit the fan leaving the community to fill in the blanks. vapenow received a free service from this community (this thread) and did not do anything to inform customers who were given 9 and 14 week estimates where they were in the shipping process. it wasn't very hard for me to compile a list. vapenow could have easily dropped in twice a month to say "we've shipped orders #0000-#1111". but they didn't. which sucks.
contrary to the opinion of some, customers who wonder if they are going to get something for their hard earned cash aren't assholes. i'm certainly not in the habit of giving money to people with no idea of when i'm going to get service. i lend my friends money with no interest---businesses don't generally get that same benefit. yet that's what went down. sure, you could get a refund. did that include interest?
the bottom line is that this thread is filled with people who thought this list could be handled in a better way. eventually it was-----by us. we were the only people who provided a service for your customers who didn't get a piece of the pie. if vapenow wants to make it right i suggest they give some money to the administrators of this site for continued operation. that would make up for the lack of communication and the recent tasteless post which only served to move 3 extra pd units.