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Dudemeister

Member
Stoked that the ZXL might be back. Really enjoying the ZX and am so tempted to acquire the ZXL as well. Anyone else have both and would like to give a comment and/or recommendation as to whether the ZXL would have a place in my arsenal? (For reference I also have the Screwball when I want to do bigger bowls). Cheers!
 

greenganja

Well-Known Member
Stoked that the ZXL might be back. Really enjoying the ZX and am so tempted to acquire the ZXL as well. Anyone else have both and would like to give a comment and/or recommendation as to whether the ZXL would have a place in my arsenal? (For reference I also have the Screwball when I want to do bigger bowls). Cheers!
I think @coolbreeze may have both. He might be able to tell you more about the ZXL. But since you already have a Screwball I see no point in getting the ZXL. Unless you just want a native 18mm ceramic zirconia vape for better flavor. The ZXL is basically the big brother to the ZX it's just a wired version of the ZX on a bigger scale to fit 18mm glass joints.
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
Stoked that the ZXL might be back. Really enjoying the ZX and am so tempted to acquire the ZXL as well. Anyone else have both and would like to give a comment and/or recommendation as to whether the ZXL would have a place in my arsenal? (For reference I also have the Screwball when I want to do bigger bowls). Cheers!
It would compete with the Screwball but it's loaded with ZX magic. It does lower temps really well and the flavor is amazing, as good as the ZX or better. It's probably as powerful as the Screwball but its natural spot might be between that and the ZX because of that low-temp flavor awesomeness. If you have the cash and inclination, go for it--it's certainly one of the finest vapes I've tried. :tup::rockon::clap::love::haw:

I think @coolbreeze may have both. He might be able to tell you more about the ZXL. But since you already have a Screwball I see no point in getting the ZXL. Unless you just want a native 18mm ceramic zirconia vape for better flavor. The ZXL is basically the big brother to the ZX it's just a wired version of the ZX on a bigger scale to fit 18mm glass joints.
Perfect timing!
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
@invertedisdead I sent a a reddit user your way by the name of purplehaze1911 on reddit. He will be contacting you about the ZXXL. Thank you,

Appreciate the recommendation my friend! Gracias!

If I wasn't already a fan you would have just won me over. This was me for SO many years. I've been trying to get converted from smoking to vaping on and off since the 2000's and only finally managed it last year. This not only sounds awesome but could genuinely help even more people finally be able to stop destroying their lungs.


There is some consideration to go up to a ~25MM size, like a torched banger, and build a huge bowl.

Right now the current full quartz design is using an 18MM heater and the bowl is about the same volume as the ZXL's bowl, which should hold about 0.5g at max capacity.

There's also the idea of just starting with the 18.8MM and if the design proves successful other sizes could likely be worked out easy enough.

Stoked that the ZXL might be back. Really enjoying the ZX and am so tempted to acquire the ZXL as well. Anyone else have both and would like to give a comment and/or recommendation as to whether the ZXL would have a place in my arsenal? (For reference I also have the Screwball when I want to do bigger bowls). Cheers!

Here's a pull in just the half bowl position :science:

Almost all the ZXL owners also own a ZX so maybe some other folks will chime in later.

I definitely have a few emails of folks telling me those are the only two vapes they use anymore. :D


There's also still some considerations of doing the 16MM bodied ZXL (based on the InVerzion 1.7, my last glass/quartz coil design)

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But I do know there's a pretty strong perception that "bigger = better" with these ball vapes and I don't want to scare people away with the efficiency! :wave:

I personally think this is a very cool design!

If you have the cash and inclination, go for it--it's certainly one of the finest vapes I've tried. :tup::rockon::clap::love::haw:

Salute to the entire Z Team, appreciate you all! :rockon:
 

Cheebsy

Microbe minion
I love my ZXL just as much as I love my ZX. I use the ZX a little more often because of the insane efficiency but if you ever feel like you want a larger ZX bowl then the ZXL is exactly what you desire. I think it tastes a smidge better than the ZX but my gosh it's close.

I can't wait to compare the ZXXL to both of them soon!
 

tswan

Member
@invertedisdead you have shared the 16MM bodied ZXL render before, and I also think its an awesome design! Would love to see this one come to life, however, in my mind this would def replace the ZXL from a product mix standpoint. If you just re-release the proven ZXL design, and then began offering this tapered bowl tho… that would be an awesome add-on to pair the ZXL down to 14mm glass, and if you ever decided to phase out the ZXL design, then you already have the bowl launched. Just some food for thought.

That being said i want all of them regardless lol. I have a ZX and ZXXL on order. Still an unseasoned member of thread so to speak.
 

Feelingmedicated

Busy vaping...
There's also still some considerations of doing the 16MM bodied ZXL (based on the InVerzion 1.7, my last glass/quartz coil design)

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But I do know there's a pretty strong perception that "bigger = better" with these ball vapes and I don't want to scare people away with the efficiency! :wave:

I personally think this is a very cool design!
I like the idea of the tapered bowl. I mainly have 14mm glass but also want to take biggers hits then the zx allows some times. I missed the zxxl pre order but would probably grab one if you did another run. A 14mm bowl for that would also be cool.
 

Cheebsy

Microbe minion
16mm bodied zxl yes please I’m a grower not a shower, less is more ,David not Goliath imo bigger is just bigger definitely not better
Honestly, the vape from my past that I miss the most is the quartz 1.7 I was offered over with a 110v coil but didn't want to risk separating it from the coil for my voltage so I passed. Even though I have a 20mm ZXL I'd grab the zx7 (sorry Ryan, couldn't resist naming it lol) in a heartbeat.
 

Dudemeister

Member
Here's a pull in just the half bowl position :science:

Almost all the ZXL owners also own a ZX so maybe some other folks will chime in later.

I definitely have a few emails of folks telling me those are the only two vapes they use anymore. :D


There's also still some considerations of doing the 16MM bodied ZXL (based on the InVerzion 1.7, my last glass/quartz coil design)

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But I do know there's a pretty strong perception that "bigger = better" with these ball vapes and I don't want to scare people away with the efficiency! :wave:

I personally think this is a very cool design!



Salute to the entire Z Team, appreciate you all! :rockon:

Thanks for the reply Ryan! Love the video :love: Definitely got me thinking regarding a 16mm ZXL, I also think there is something for efficiency before size. Will keep an eye peeled for when the ZXL drops and see if budget allows. Otherwise, I would be really interested in a potential 16mm. And thanks to everyone else for chiming in, great to get some input and not let VAS run too rampant :lol:
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
In some ways this is your dilemma. I'm perfectly content with my ZX and it has killed BVAS completely. All I need now is the tripledecker bowl and I'm done.

Appreciate your patience and support friend!

3 shelf bowls are ALMOST done, they are just being touched up a hair - my manufacturer found a discrepancy in my digital model versus the draft drawing where the joints on the bowl were a different length. Turns out the clearance got modified while I was playing around with the O-ring handle groove symmetry. Whoops! Luckily the parts are still completely usable and just need that end shaved down a fraction of a millimeter. It's probably not even completely necessary to be honest, but import glass joints are more random so I want to ensure good compatibility with those as they are the most prevalent.

@invertedisdead you have shared the 16MM bodied ZXL render before, and I also think its an awesome design! Would love to see this one come to life, however, in my mind this would def replace the ZXL from a product mix standpoint. If you just re-release the proven ZXL design, and then began offering this tapered bowl tho… that would be an awesome add-on to pair the ZXL down to 14mm glass, and if you ever decided to phase out the ZXL design, then you already have the bowl launched. Just some food for thought.

That being said i want all of them regardless lol. I have a ZX and ZXXL on order. Still an unseasoned member of thread so to speak.

Thanks so much for choosing PHASE3!
I'm super excited to get these vapes out into some new hands as I've been out of inventory for a while.

Appreciate everyone's patience and understanding for real!

The original inspiration for this concept was a model that could theoretically take the place of both the ZX and ZXL cause I have this compelling obsession with refinement; but exactly as you mention, my other designs are already tested, proven, and favorited so as of now it's just an idea.

The only thing I didn't like about the 20MM ZXL is I found the assembly surprisingly a lot more involved than the ZX.

If I did build this concept I figured I could port over the 18MM bowl from the 20MM ZXL to offer for larger water pipes.


I love my ZXL just as much as I love my ZX. I use the ZX a little more often because of the insane efficiency but if you ever feel like you want a larger ZX bowl then the ZXL is exactly what you desire. I think it tastes a smidge better than the ZX but my gosh it's close.

I can't wait to compare the ZXXL to both of them soon!

The ZXL definitely has the benefit of holding quite a bit more herb and increasing the terpene percentage of the hit which helps a lot for that dab like flavor punch, but I'm still impressed at the flavor the ZX can extract with such big hits and small amounts of material :rockon:

Will be interesting to see how the 3 shelf ZX bowl compares to the ZXL :science:

I like the idea of the tapered bowl. I mainly have 14mm glass but also want to take biggers hits then the zx allows some times. I missed the zxxl pre order but would probably grab one if you did another run. A 14mm bowl for that would also be cool.

Appreciate your input friend, thanks for rocking with me!!

Looking forward to what 2025 brings.

The ZX brings out the delicate aromas and flavors better but at times I am looking for a bigger bowl capacity. While the ZXL allows me to take bigger hits and the sweet spot in terms of potency and effect with less flavorful follow up hits.

:rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon:

16mm bodied zxl yes please I’m a grower not a shower, less is more ,David not Goliath imo bigger is just bigger definitely not better. If I want more, I just hit the ZX back to back with two different strains.

:cheers:

This is definitely my style as well as I prefer the smoothness above all and I tend to find this often results in a more potent high IMHO.
Not to take anything away from a big slammer as I like an ear-ringer occasionally, but there's something about a true one hit, single pass extraction, which minimizes condensation losses and maximizes bioavailability and absorption that I feel the ZX truly excels in punching way beyond its herb capacity.

That's one message that's been a bit hard to get across is that I actually made the ZX for people with high tolerances just as much as people looking to do micros.

Honestly, the vape from my past that I miss the most is the quartz 1.7 I was offered over with a 110v coil but didn't want to risk separating it from the coil for my voltage so I passed. Even though I have a 20mm ZXL I'd grab the zx7 (sorry Ryan, couldn't resist naming it lol) in a heartbeat.

I'm curious if you'd guess that the 20MM ZXL has more airflow than the 16MM 1.7 or if you think they are about the same.

I remember the 1.7 to be very open and comfortable, but it's been a while since I used one.
I do have an old quartz 1.5 back in California but there's definitely something fun about the small, agile size of the later generations 🏎️



Thanks for the reply Ryan! Love the video :love: Definitely got me thinking regarding a 16mm ZXL, I also think there is something for efficiency before size. Will keep an eye peeled for when the ZXL drops and see if budget allows. Otherwise, I would be really interested in a potential 16mm. And thanks to everyone else for chiming in, great to get some input and not let VAS run too rampant :lol:

Cheers friend thanks for following along :wave:
 

Cheebsy

Microbe minion
I'm curious if you'd guess that the 20MM ZXL has more airflow than the 16MM 1.7 or if you think they are about the same.

I remember the 1.7 to be very open and comfortable, but it's been a while since I used one.
I do have an old quartz 1.5 back in California but there's definitely something fun about the small, agile size of the later generations 🏎️
Hmmm, I've slept and vaped quite allot since my 1.7 died, but I would guess draw restriction somewhere in the middle of the zx and ZXL. I do actually have the two pieces in a bag somewhere. If I get around to it I'll join it together temporarily, fill it and do a cold draw test comparison with all 3 heads. 👍
 

JT-Shawk

Member
There is some consideration to go up to a ~25MM size, like a torched banger, and build a huge bowl.
That sounds very interesting. I always took snaps but for me that was about .3-.4 grams just for one. So bowl size has always been difficult for me, most are too small or too large. I have a feeling I'm really gonna like the 3 shelf bowl on the lowest shelf with my ZX...can't wait to try it but still got my ZXXL coming first and I will 100% be getting a ZXL if you offer them again.

There's also still some considerations of doing the 16MM bodied ZXL (based on the InVerzion 1.7, my last glass/quartz coil design)

I was actually thinking about this one again recently, it was like a seed and my interest in the idea has just grown over time. I really want to see another run of the 20mm ZXL but this one looks like an efficient powerhouse. I love the entire design and would definitely have to grab one of these too if you decided to do a run of them.

Considering the butane powered stuff you're working on too, there's no shortage of anticipation here right now!
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I was actually thinking about this one again recently, it was like a seed and my interest in the idea has just grown over time. I really want to see another run of the 20mm ZXL but this one looks like an efficient powerhouse. I love the entire design and would definitely have to grab one of these too if you decided to do a run of them.

Considering the butane powered stuff you're working on too, there's no shortage of anticipation here right now!

Anyone who is interested in getting a new ZXL should comment in this thread if they'd rather see the original 20MM design or the newer 16MM coil design. :wave:

I'm into this slim 16MM model as the glass / quartz models it seeks to replicate were great and I like the sleek low profile take.

If I wasn't so stubborn I'm sure there's plenty of people that would like to see that design in stainless steel too. :whoa:


Definitely super excited about the new quartz stuff, PHASE3 is 100% committed to building the most advanced and most satisfying 100% quartz vaporizer on the planet! :borg:
 

Oden

Well-Known Member
I'm waiting for the first returns of the ZXXL, and maybe I could buy one at the next pre-order.
I personally vote for the ZXL 16mm, and I wouldn't mind buying it in the SS version.

And if you make a 100% quartz vaporizer you can count on me 🔥
We have already had this conversation on this thread, for a new quartz vape.
I've been waiting for a 100% quartz vaporizer from Phase3 for a long time ❤️
So I really hope that your project will come to fruition.
 
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